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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 21 Maioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw gia toys dyo Palaistinioys poy qa parei h Ellada. Gnwrizoyme pote qa erqoyn, se poio aerodromio qa prosgeiwqoyn kai ypo poio kaqestws qa briskontai edw; Qa einai eleyqeroi, qa einai ypo astynomikh krathsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa apanthsw sto politiko meros. Symfwnhqhke, xqes, oti oi dyo Palaistinioi poy qa filojenhqoyn sth xwra mas, qa einai eleyqeroi. Den qa briskontai ypo krathsh. Bebaiws, qa exoyn thn prostasia -gia qemata asfaleias toys- poy xreiazetai se aytes tis periptwseis. Ean teqei qema ekdoshs, qa antimetwpistei eniaia kai apo toys "15" ws meizon politiko zhthma. Den qa afeqei, se kamia periptwsh, sthn kaqe xwra, analoga me to Dikaio ths kai tis sxeseis poy exei, na ryqmisei to qema. Qa antimetwpistei me eniaio tropo ws politiko qema, me apofash twn "15".

POYLIDOY: Mhpws gnwrizete ti xarakthrismo epikindynothtas exei apodwsei to Israhl stoys sygkekrimenoys Palaistinioys poy erxontai sthn Ellada;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporoyme na ypeiselqoyme se tetoia qemata.

IWANNOY: Qa qelame na mas peite, gia tis eyxes poy phre o Prwqypoyrgos apo ton k. Xristodoylo, ti akribws perielambanan.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizw akomh. Pisteyw oti oloi shmera qa eyxhqoyn kai ston Proedro ths Dhmokratias Kwnstantino Stefanopoylo kai ston Prwqypoyrgo Kwsta Shmith kai ston arxhgo ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs Kwsta Karamanlh, ston prwhn prwqypoyrgo Kwsta Mhtsotakh kai se osoys apo esas giortazoyn shmera kai stoys opoioys eyxomai Xronia Polla. Shmera, giortazoyn polloi kai apo ton politiko kosmo kai opws akoysa to prwi sto radiofwno apo ton k. Tsima, einai mia eykairia gia ekexeiria, mias kai to synolo toy politikoy mas kosmoy giortazei.

TAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, to megalytero meros toy Typoy filojenei shmera to qema toy k. Papandreoy, toy gymnasthrioy kai to an yparxei diastash apocewn metajy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn sto qema toy eyrwstratoy kai se alla qemata ejwterikhs politikhs. Telikws, ti symbainei me ayth thn istoria; Ontws, opws grafoyn "TA NEA", "xtyphse o ios toy gymnasthrioy" thn kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: To qema ayto exei kleisei. Den yparxei problhma.

TAKHS: Koryfaia stelexh ths N.D. se dhlwseis toys eipan oti den synadei to klima dramatopoihshs poy o Prwqypoyrgos prosedwse sta eqnika qemata, kaqws kai to qema toy gymnasthrioy. Ti apantate se ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Aytes oi dhlwseis den exoyn th deoysa politikh sobarothta. Kat` arxas, qelw na tonisw oti o k. Shmiths den dramatopoihse tipota. Opws xarakthristika anaferame kai xqes, o logos ths idiaiterhs anaforas sta eqnika qemata, einai oti twra hrqe h wra twn apofasewn. Einai, loipon, poly logiko, otan plhsiazei h stigmh gia apofaseis, o Prwqypoyrgos na enhmerwnei ton ellhniko lao kai toys politikoys arxhgoys. Qa syzhthsei mazi toys, qa zhthsei thn aparaithth eqnikh omocyxia kai thn analhch prwtoboyliwn, opoy mporei o kaqenas. Kai bebaiws, qa enhmerwsei kai ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias.

IWANNOY: Qa hqela na mas peite, ean, me ola ayta ta dhmosieymata poy exoyme dei aytes tis hmeres, ektimate oti yparxei rhjh h entash sthn koryfh ths hgesias.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa prin oti den yparxei problhma. As mhn prospaqoyme na to efeyroyme. Den yparxei kamia diafora.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Eipate, xqes, oti exete dwsei sta kommata to nomosxedio gia to Symboylio Ejwterikhs Politikhs. Shmera, o Genikos Grammateas ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths N.D., se dhlwseis toy, sas kathggeile oti ceydeste.

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Sioyfas xrhsimopoihse idiaitera sklhroys oroys. Qa mporoyse na mas eixe rwthsei, opote qa epairne thn apanthsh oti ayth htan h plhroforhsh poy eixame apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Mas eixe pei to prwi oti eixe doqei to sxedio nomoy, to opoio bebaiws einai etoimo. Ginetai h teleytaia epejergasia kai qa doqei poly syntoma. Alla, epeidh phrame ayth thn plhroforhsh, sas th metaferame. Bebaiws, den htan swsth, alla h politikh oysia toy zhthmatos den allazei. To nomosxedio brisketai sto teleytaio stadio epejergasias toy kai poly syntoma qa doqei sta politika kommata. Apo ekei kai pera, ena diadikastiko laqos sthn plhroforhsh poy mas doqhke -kai to tonizw ayto- den apotelei stoixeio gia na xrhsimopoioyntai tetoies ekfraseis. Den qa mpw se ayto to paixnidi. Dioti, o k. Sioyfas prepei na katalabei oti se kapoia zhthmata yparxei kai o dromos ths synennohshs.

MPEKATWROY: Qa hqela na epanelqw sto qema twn dyo Palaistiniwn poy qa erqoyn sthn Ellada. Qa toys ypodexqei h xwra mas, kai ara kai h E.E., ws politikoys prosfyges, qa toys doqei politiko asylo; Mporeite na mas kaqorisete poio qa einai ayto to status, me ti tajidiwtika eggrafa qa erqoyn aytoi oi anqrwpoi; Kai otan lete oti qa einai eleyqeroi, ti shmainei ayto; Dhladh, afoy fqasoyn sto Ellhniko qa einai eleyqeroi na diakinhqoyn, na mpoyn se ena taji kai na pane opoy qeloyn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa einai eleyqeroi sth xwra mas. Yparxei eidikh apofash gia th filojenia toys. Bebaiws, opws sas eipa -kai ayto nomizw oti to katalabainete oloi- qa exoyn lhfqei ola ta anagkaia metra gia thn prostasia toys. To "eleyqeroi" shmainei oti den qa einai katw apo ena kaqestws periorismoy. Qa yparxei, omws, synennohsh toys me tis arxes gia ta qemata asfaleias toys Kai qelw na epanalabw oti, ean yparjei periptwsh ekdoshs, to qema den qa antimetwpistei me bash tis poinikes diatajeis, alla politika, me apofash twn "15". Opws katalabainete, einai ena idiomorfo qema kai mesa stis epomenes meres pisteyetai oti qa diafwtistoyn oles oi ptyxes poy syndeontai me ayto kai einai para polles. Bebaiws, syzhtoyme kat` arxhn, giati den exoyn fqasei akomh sth xwra mas.

MPEKATWROY: Ara, den apokleietai na doqei kai politiko asylo se aytoys toys anqrwpoys;

PRWTOPAPAS: H filojenia toys ginetai me eidikh politikh apofash. Den analabame emeis thn eyqynh. Einai eidikh politikh apofash twn "15". Gi` ayto sas eipa oti, ean yparjei qema ekdoshs, ayto qa antimetwpistei synolika me apofash twn "15".

MPEKATWROY: Gia poio logo h Ellada den dexthke na parei kai ton enapomeinanta, ayton dhladh poy qa meinei sthn Kypro;

PRWTOPAPAS: H katanomh egine me poly prosektiko tropo kai meta apo polles diapragmateyseis. Apo ekei kai pera, to qema ths katanomhs kapoy isorrophse se oles tis xwres-melh ths E.E.. Omws, mhn anazhtoyme giati isorrophse h giati den egine alliws. Ayth einai h apofash.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Giati h asfalistikh etairia apozhmiwse mono thn oikogeneia Kranidiwth;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa hqela, ejelissomenhs ths dikhs, na meinoyme mexris ekei. Ta dikasthria qa apofasisoyn gia ta ypoloipa.

KAPPOS: Einai ikanopoihmenh h kybernhsh apo thn apofash twn "15", apo th stigmh poy ayth h apofash diathrei se kaqestws omhrias toys 13;

PRWTOPAPAS: To tonisa, den apodexomai to xarakthrismo gia kaqestws omhrias. Einai eleyqeroi kai exw thn entypwsh oti o kaqenas apo aytoys einai fysiko na qelei prostasia. To katalabainete ayto.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Pws sxoliazete dhmosieyma toy Bhmatos poy anaferei oti mexri to 1976 to FBI parakoloyqoyse ton Andrea Papandreoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme zhsei polles tetoies epoxes kai kata to parelqon polloi exoyn milhsei gi` ayto to qema. Se polles periptwseis exoyme diapistwsei oti parenebainan diafores yphresies sta eswterika ths Elladas. Mia tetoia apokalych eixe ginei kai prin apo merikoys mhnes, me aformh thn peribohth ypoqesh Gryllakh. Gnwrizete poly kala oti mexri ena diasthma, yphrxan parembaseis yphresiwn allwn xwrwn. Ayto, omws, den ginetai pia. H xwra mas, idiaitera meta to 1980, ekane ola ta anagkaia bhmata kai oi kybernhseis toy PASOK frontisan na mhn parembainei sta eswterika ths xwras kamia jenh yphresia. Ekeines htan alles epoxes, gia tis opoies kaneis den mporei na milhsei me kolakeytika logia.

TAKHS: Se kapoies poleis ths Boreioy Elladas kapoioi petajan feig-bolan poy grafoyn diafora, toy stil "na gyrisei o Kwnstantinos" kai diafora tetoia grafika. Exete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Symfwnw apolytws me to xarakthrismo sas peri grafikothtwn. Koitajte: H Dhmokratia mas einai para poly isxyrh kai den kindyneyei, oyte apo tis emfaniseis kai aytes tis grafikes parastaseis poy epixeirei na dwsei o tews basilias, oyte apo merikoys, elaxistoys grafikoys, oyte apo to an qa petajei kapoios prokhryjeis h oxi.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Me aformh th syzhthsh sthn Olomeleia ths Boylhs, qa hqela na epanelqw sth xqesinh erwthsh moy kai na rwthsw ean h kybernhsh exei plhrh gnwsh toy idiokthsiakoy kaqestwtos toy thleoptikoy staqmoy "TV Magic";

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh, kaqe fora poy emfanizetai enas radiofwnikos h thleoptikos staqmos h mia efhmerida, zhta apo tis armodies yphresies to metoxologio, thn katastash oswn syndeontai me to idiokthsiako kaqestws. Ton elegxo, omws, gia to ean einai peistiko to metoxologio, ean exei ginei onomastikopoihsh twn metoxwn, mexri mias metoxhs ennow, kai ean dikaiologeitai to ``poqen esxes'', ton askei to ESR. Kai ayto giati; Giati mporei na erqei kapoios kai na paroysiasei off shore etairies h parenqeta proswpa kai me bash tis off shore etairies kai ta parenqeta proswpa na epixeirhsei na parei adeia. Ekei ginetai elegxos se baqos, opws qa ginei kai twra. Ean den peistei to ESR oti ta proswpa poy emfanizontai einai pragmatika kai oti den krybontai alloi apo pisw, na eiste bebaioi oti adeies den qa dwsei.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Se ayth th diadikasia qa ginei kai elegxos epixeirhsiakhs dynatothtas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ginetai elegxos toy ``poqen esxes''. Den mporei na gnwrizoyme ean kapoios mporei h den mporei epixeirhmatika, ean yparxei kati eidiko. Ginetai endelexhs elegxos toy ``poqen esxes''. To ESR exei ekdwsei enan pinaka poy mporei kaneis na dei, pws elegxontai oi emfanizomenoi ws metoxoi, pws peiqontai oi armodies arxes toy ESR oti den prokeitai gia parenqeta proswpa. O elegxos -sas plhroforw- einai poly aysthros. Kai deyteron, yparxei eidikos kanonas poy xrhsimopoiei h Epitroph Elegxoy kai Diafaneias toy ESR gia tis periptwseis twn off shore etairiwn. Xarh se aytoys toys elegxoys, epeidh akribws apodeixqhke oti den peiqoyn oi protaseis poy eixan ginei apo arketa thleoptika Mesa, sthn periptwsh twn adeiwn eqnikhs embeleias gia tis thleoraseis qa akyrwnetai kai o diagwnismos. Na eiste bebaioi oti kaneis den qa parei adeia ean den peisei gia to "poqen esxes" kai to idiokthsiako kaqestws toy.

SOYGLERHS: Hqela na rwthsw, me aformh th synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me thn ka Aggelopoyloy, ean yparxei ekqesh olwn twn olympiakwn ergwn kai ean nai, pote qa doqei sth dhmosiothta; Giati yparxei kai mia sxetikh erwthsh sth Boylh toy k. Sphliwtopoyloy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan katatiqentai erwthseis sth Boylh, prepei na apantwntai apo ekei, dioti qa parabiasoyme kaqe ennoia deontologias, ean kanei erwthsh enas boyleyths sth Boylh kai erxomaste edw na dwsoyme thn apanthsh, enw h apanthsh prepei na doqei sto deonta xwro, sto nao ths Dhmokratias, dhladh sto Koinoboylio. Prepei pantws na ypenqymisw oti synexws h kybernhsh enhmerwnei gia thn proodo twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Yparxei stenh synergasia ths kybernhshs me ton AQHNA-2004 kai thn Proedro toy. Synexws, enhmerwnei kai th Dieqnh Olympiakh Epitroph kai ton ellhniko lao kai bebaiws to Koinoboylio. Opws gnwrizete, yparxoyn kai taktikes synanthseis toy k. Benizeloy me thn armodia Epitroph ths Boylhs kai ginetai enhmerwsh, idiaitera ektetamena kai diejodika.

KAPPOS: Sth Barda Hleias, se kataylismo jenwn ergatwn ghs, kapoioi topoqethsan enan emprhstiko mhxanismo thn Kyriakh kai kindynecan gynaikes, paidia. Ayto synebh giati oi ergates khryjan apergia gia orismenes hmeres, zhtwntas kalyteres synqhkes zwhs kai hmeromisqia. Qa hqela to sxolio sas kai ti gnwsh exete ws pros tis energeies twn diwktikwn arxwn, prokeimenoy na entopistoyn oi enoxoi.

PRWTOPAPAS: Na eiste bebaioi oti qa ginei to kalytero dynato. Qa einai idiaitera apotelesmatikos kai swstos o elegxos gia na apodoqoyn oi eyqynes.

Sas eyxaristw.

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