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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 17 Maioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Sas xrwstw apo xqes mia apanthsh, se sxesh me thn askhsh ``Nikhforos-Tojoths'', gia thn opoia, omws, den yparxei zhthma.

POYLIDOY: Pote eprokeito na ginei ayth h askhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Syntoma, alla den yparxei kapoia parembash, opws me rwthsate xqes.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Prin afixqei sthn Kypro o Genikos Grammateas toy OHE Kofi Anan, eixate ekfrasei edw, se erwthsh poy sas eixe ypoblhqei, kapoia sygkrathmenh aisiodojia. O k. Anan, hrqe, eide kai aphlqe. Sas erwtw, ean pragmati synexizete na eiste aisiodojos h apaisiodojos meta apo ayta poy elexqhsan;

PRWTOPAPAS: Nomizw oti den mporei kaneis na ekfrasei aisiodojia, ayth th stigmh, toylaxiston me bash ta osa exoyn ginei mexri twra. Qelw na qymisw oti o idios o k. Kofi Anan eipe oti prepei na oloklhrwqei o kyklos, wste na mporoyme na bgaloyme ta telika symperasmata. Kai nomizw oti ayto einai swsto. Epomenws, parakoloyqoyme oloi tis ejelijeis. Yparxoyn oi xqesines anafores toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Ayth th stigmh emfanizetai h toyrkokypriakh pleyra -yparxoyn kai dhlwseis toy k. Ntenktas, sto toyrkiko CNN- adiallakth, kati poy einai idiaitera arnhtiko kai fysika kaneis den mporei na einai eyxaristhmenos apo ayth thn katastash. Ektimw oti ayth h adiallajia kanei kako kai sth dynatothta ths Toyrkias na apokthsei eyrwpaikh poreia, opws toylaxiston qelei. Kai bebaiws, kata th gnwmh moy, qa synanthsei arnhtikh stash @prepei na th synanthsei- apo toys Dieqneis Organismoys. Ayto, omws, einai ena qema poy qa to doyme na ejelissetai sto epomeno diasthma. Emeis synexizoyme thn poreia mas, me bash th strathgikh poy exoyme xarajei. Yparxei thn Tetarth h synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Proedro ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias k. Glayko Klhridh. Kai bebaiws, qa ejaxqoyn ta symperasmata kai qa xaraxqei h parapera kateyqynsh drashs.

POYLIDOY: Eixate pei palaiotera oti h synanthsh toy k. Klhridh me ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo qa ginei opotedhpote yparjei kapoia endiaferoysa ejelijh. Aytos einai o logos toyths ths synanthshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws, yparxei ejelijh. H emfanish mias adiallajias apo thn toyrkokypriakh pleyra kai o kindynos poy diagrafetai gia thn poreia twn synomiliwn, apotelei ejelijh. Prepei na ajiologhqei kai prepei na syntonistoyme, wste na analhfqoyn prwtoboylies. Kai ennow pros toys Dieqneis Organismoys. Einai epibeblhmenh ayth h synanthsh. Mporoyme pia na bgaloyme symperasmata. Exoyme thn emfanish mias taktikhs apo thn toyrkokypriakh kai thn toyrkikh pleyra, ean toylaxiston den yparjei kati kainoyrgio mexri thn Tetarth.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Ektos apo to politiko skelos poy yparxei kindynos, oson afora thn oysia toy Kypriakoy, froneite oti yparxei ayth thn wra kindynos kai gia thn entajiakh poreia ths Kyproy, dioti o Ntenktas eipe safws oti ``egw dialeja to dialogo mono kai mono gia na frenarw thn entajiakh poreia ths Kyproy''; Einai proklhtikotatos.

PRWTOPAPAS: Akomh kai orismenes topoqethseis poy ginontai apo thn toyrkokypriakh pleyra gia paratash toy xronodiagrammatos, opwsdhpote dhmioyrgoyn entypwseis oti qa ginei prospaqeia apo kapoioys kai kyriws apo thn toyrkikh pleyra na proklhqoyn problhmata sthn entajiakh poreia ths Kyproy. Omws, einai teleiws jexwristo qema to qema ths epilyshs toy Kypriakoy, thn opoia bebaiws epiqymoyme. Pros thn kateyqynsh ayth exoyn analhfqei polles kai shmantikes prwtoboylies kai exoyme sthrijei idiaitera thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia. Kai einai allo qema h poreia entajhs ths Kyproy sthn E.E., h opoia ginetai me toys kanonismoys ths E.E. toys opoioys, opws gnwrizete, o armodios Epitropos parakoloyqei poly stena kai exei ekfrastei idiaitera qetika. Epomenws, ean me rwthsete, ean perimenw apo thn toyrkikh pleyra na ekdhlwsei kapoies prospaqeies, apantw oti einai poly piqano. Alla, ejisoy shmantikes kai apofasistikes qa einai kai oi dikes mas prospaqeies. Qa prepei h entajh na ginei me bash tis apofaseis kai tis kateyqynseis poy isxyoyn shmera sthn E.E.

ANTYPAS: Epeidh, omws, apo thn toyrkokypriakh pleyra yparxei kai h pleyra ths Eyrwphs poy qa parei th sxetikh apofash kai h syndesh toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy eixe parei thn apofash sthn opoia anafereste gia thn entajh ths Kyproy, me th synqesh ayth, meta tis ekloges kai thn anodo synthrhtikwn kommatwn sthn ejoysia, exei allajei; Exete kapoies endeijeis, exete kanei kapoies diereynhtikes epafes me toys neoys pleon hgetes twn eyrwpaikwn xwrwn gia to an exei allajei h stash toys apenanti sthn entajh ths Kyproy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den allajan oles, opws jerete. Oi allages aforoyn, prosfata toylaxiston, thn Ollandia.

ANTYPAS: Sthn Italia...

PRWTOPAPAS: Sthn Italia yparxei epikyrwsh ths poreias ayths apo Symboylio Koryfhs, paroysia toy k. Mperloyskoni. Qelw na qymisw oti kai sto Laaken kai o k. Mperloyskoni htan parwn. Epomenws, den exei allajei kati sthn Italia apo tis teleytaies apofaseis. Sth Gallia, epeidh metexei kai o Arxhgos toy kratoys -exei dieyrymenes armodiothtes opws gnwrizete- o k. Sirak htan parwn se oles aytes tis diergasies. Ara, exoyme mono mia allagh sthn Ollandia. Den nomizw oti anatrepei tis isorropies, tis apofaseis kai tis kateyqynseis ths E.E. se ayto to qema. Dhladh, sta qemata ths entajhs -kai oxi mono ths Kyproy, ths genikoterhs politikhs dieyrynshs poy akoloyqei h E.E.- den blepw gia poio logo qa prepei na yparxei diaforopoihsh twn mexri twra apofasewn. Den yparxei kaneis logos gia na ginei kati tetoio.

KOTTARIDHS: Na dieyrynw ligo ayth thn erwthsh: Pisteyete oti qa yparjei me th diafainomenh ayth allagh politikhs stashs sthn Eyrwph, qa yparjei kapoia allagh sto pws dexetai h Eyrwph thn askhsh ths ellhnikhs ejwterikhs politikhs h qa yparjei kapoia allagh sto eswteriko ths Elladas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Milate gia thn ejwterikh politikh h gia genikotera symperasmata;

KOTTARIDHS: Milw genika gia thn ejwterikh politikh, alla kai sto eswteriko ths xwras.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kanate mia erwthsh me tria skelh. Sta qemata ths ejwterikhs politikhs, den shmainei oti prepei na allajei kati. Oi apofaseis ths E.E. yparxoyn kai isxyoyn. Idiaitera ta qemata ths dieyrynshs ths E.E., ean ayto ennoeite, oi apofaseis exoyn lhfqei paroysia twn hgetwn poy hgoyntai twn xristianodhmokratikwn h kai genikotera kommatwn toy eyrews legomenoy synthrhtikoy xwroy. Kai h italikh, alla kai alles, opws h ispanikh kybernhsh poy exei thn Proedria, htan paroyses me ta idia proswpa. Etsi, mporoyme na poyme oti, oson afora ta qemata ths dieyrynshs, den yparxei kanenas logos gia mia taktikh allh apo ayth poy apofasise h E.E.

Oson afora ta genikotera koinwnika qemata kai ta genikotera qemata ths poreias ths Eyrwphs, einai logiko h allagh toy sysxetismoy na dhmioyrgei eyloges anhsyxies stoys laoys ths Eyrwphs. H anodos sthn ejoysia kommatwn -eite me th morfh ths monokommatikhs kybernhshs, eite me th morfh twn synaspismwn kommatwn- ta opoia exoyn apoceis poy den sebontai h arnoyntai to eyrwpaiko koinwniko protypo h dhmioyrgoyn sobara problhmata sthn poreia mias Eyrwphs h opoia apodexetai th diaforetikothta kai toys diaforetikoys politismoys, einai safes oti piqanon na dhmioyrghsei sobara problhmata stis eyrwpaikes koinwnies. Mia Eyrwph, gia paradeigma, poy dinei baros mono sthn agora kai den sebetai ta problhmata ths apasxolhshs, ths koinwnikhs prostasias kai thn anagkh ths apodoxhs ths diaforetikothtas sthn E.E., kaqws kai toy sebasmoy olwn twn politismwn, twn apocewn, twn idewn, alla kai twn fylwn kai twn qrhskeiwn poy yparxoyn, einai safes oti dhmioyrgei problhma. Ayto einai zhthma poy afora tis eyrwpaikes koinwnies. Qa elega oti afora kai thn eyrwpaikh Aristera, h opoia prepei na metatrecei to meionekthma se pleonekthma, dhmioyrgwntas, oso mporei pio grhgora, to neo sygxrono logo ths. Ena logo, mia politikh, mia strathgikh poy na antistoixei sta symferonta twn koinwniwn kai na dhmioyrgei thn aisqhsh ths asfaleias, ths staqerothtas, ths elpidas kai ths prooptikhs gia to mellon ths Eyrwphs.

Oson afora ta zhthmata poy syndeontai me thn ellhnikh Proedria, qelw na tonisw oti yparxei ena plaisio politikwn apofasewn poy elhfqhsan kai sth Barkelwnh, poy einai safws orismeno. Se ayto to plaisio, bebaiws, qa anaptyxqoyn kai oi idiaitera shmantikes prwtoboylies ths ellhnikhs Proedrias.

Qelw na qymisw oti, hdh, apo th Barkelwnh exoyn prosdioristei kai proxwroyn koines politikes ths E.E. se seira qematwn poy aforoyn thn oikonomia, to forologiko, thn ekpaideysh, thn apasxolhsh, to diktyo koinwnikhs prostasias kai allhleggyhs gia tis asqenesteres oikonomika tajeis. H poreia poy kaqoristhke apo tis Synodoys ths Lisabonas kai ths Barkelwnhs, qa synexistei me tis idiaiteres prwtoboylies ths ellhnikhs Proedrias. Pisteyoyme oti, dedomenoy toy plaisioy twn apofasewn poy yparxei, exoyme th dynatothta gia ena shmantiko kai dhmioyrgiko ergo.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Pws sxoliazete th shmerinh dhlwsh ths G.G. toy KKE, h opoia eipe "allo poy den qelei to PASOK na enisxyqei h akrodejia sthn Ellada";

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaneis den mporei na symfwnhsei me th dhlwsh ayth. Qa th xarakthriza ws idiaitera adikh kai atyxh. Einai safes oti ena komma me thn paradosh, thn poreia, thn istoria kai th sxesh toy me to lao, opws to PASOK, oxi mono den entassei tis politikes kai tis epiloges toy se mikrokommatikes logikes, alla einai to komma, h paratajh, o xwros poy panta antiparatiqetai, polema, apokalyptei kai steketai dynamika apenanti se opoiadhpote emfanish, eite akrodejiwn politikwn, eite akrodejiwn logikwn, eite logikwn poy anoigoyn to dromo gia akrodejies antilhceis. Qelw na to qymisw ayto.

ALEJAKHS: Kapoia stoixeia apo to eyrw-barometro, bghkan xqes sth dhmosiothta, se sxesh me thn jenofobia twn Ellhnwn kai kapoies ratsistikes taseis. Ayto, se syndyasmo me th diafainomenh ispanikh protash gia eniaia eyrwpaikh yphresia asfaleias plhroforiwn kai synergasia me tis HPA, dhmioyrgei ena aisqhma problhmatismoy sth kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai dyo diaforetika pragmata. Bebaiws, qa yparjoyn eidikes topoqethseis, alla emeis eimaste politika qetikoi se opoiadhpote prooptikh koinwn politikwn sthn E.E. kai idiaitera sto trito pylwna. Me ayth thn ennoia, den mporei kaneis, ws qema arxhs, na diatypwsei antirrhsh se kati tetoio. Qa elega to antiqeto. Tonizw, omws, oti prepei na dei kaneis kai tis leptomereies kai ta sygkekrimena shmeia kai na syzhthsei epi ths protashs. Alla, epi ths arxhs, emeis se ayta ta zhthmata topoqetoymaste qetika.

Oson afora to deytero shmeio ths erwthshs sas, einai pragmati ena shmantiko gegonos poy prepei na apasxolhsei ola ta politika kommata. Gnwrizoyme oti se oles tis eyrwpaikes koinwnies anaptyssontai fainomena ratsismoy kai jenofobias, ta opoia einai idiaitera anhsyxhtika. Prepei na katalaboyme oloi oti h Eyrwph qa einai, pleon, polypolitismikh. An den to apodexqoyme ayto, anoigoyme to dromo gia epikindyna fainomena kai energeies. Einai akomh idiaitera anhsyxhtiko to gegonos oti se polles eyrwpaikes kybernhseis metexoyn kommata poy exoyn -kai den tis kryboyn- kateyqynseis poy proseggizoyn ratsistikes antilhceis. Den milw panta gia ta epikefalhs kommata enos synaspismoy. Kyriws, yparxoyn mikrotera kommata, se mia seira apo xwres, poy anoikta emfanizoyn tetoies antilhceis. Elpizw kati tetoio na mhn ginei kai sthn Ollandia. Katalabainoyme oloi oti ayto dhmioyrgei mia nea pragmatikothta kai qa prepei na antidrasoyme. Den einai to mellon ths Eyrwphs h akrodejia. Den einai o ratsismos kai h jenofobia. Ayto mporei na dhmioyrghsei idiaitera arnhtika apotelesmata.

Sth xwra mas exoyme kanei ena poly shmantiko ergo. Exoyme proxwrhsei sth nomimopoihsh twn metanastwn, h opoia htan epibeblhmenh gia polloys logoys. Kai an qelete, me th nomimopoihsh toys, thn ekdosh asfalistikwn bibliariwn, thn ypoxrewsh eisforwn, thn ypoxrewsh na plhrwnontai me bash toys nomoys kai tis syllogikes symbaseis, dhmioyrgoyme kai ena xtyphma ston aqemito antagwnismo metajy Ellhnwn kai jenwn ergazomenwn. Kai ayto elegxetai kai qa elegxqei aysthra. Apo ekei kai pera, yparxei ena politiko zhthma. Den mporei na eimaste "jenofoboi" kai ratsistes. Bebaiws, den kanoyme politikh anoiktwn synorwn. To exoyme tonisei ayto. Dioti, einai safes oti ayta einai dyo diaforetika pragmata. Alla se sxesh me to eswteriko mias xwras, den prepei kaneis na epitrecei na anaptyxqoyn politikes kai prajeis poy exoyn sxesh me to diaxwrismo twn politwn, analoga me fylo, xrwma, qrhskeia, fylh.

ALEJAKHS: Qa janagyrisw sto qema ths dieyrynshs. H Germania paroysiazetai ws kentrikh xwra poy prowqei ayth th diadikasia. H ellhnikh kybernhsh me to endexomeno ths kybernhtikhs allaghs sth Germania, exei anaptyjei diayloys epikoinwnias me to Xristianodhmokratiko komma, oytws wste na diamorfwsei isorropies gia mh mplokarisma isws kai ths kypriakhs entajhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw thn entypwsh oti biazeste poly!

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Hqela to sxolio sas gia tis xqesines dhlwseis toy ypoyrgoy Amynas Giannoy Papantwnioy, o opoios meta apo polyeth paramonh sthn hgesia twn oikonomikwn ypoyrgeiwn ths xwras diapistwnei elleimma koinwnikhs politikhs sthn kybernhsh shmera kai malista diablepei ton kindyno na ftasei to reyma httas twn Sosialistikwn kommatwn ths Eyrwphs kai sthn Ellada, ean h kybernhsh den asxolhqei me ta problhmata ths kaqhmerinothtas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa ekana laqos ean sxoliaza tis politikoy kai ideologikoy periexomenoy omilies twn stelexwn mas. Einai gnwsto oti yphrxe mia ekdhlwsh politikoy problhmatismoy. Einai logiko ta stelexh mas poy parabriskontai se aytes tis ekdhlwseis na ekdhlwnoyn tis anhsyxies, toys problhmatismoys kai tis protaseis toys gyrw apo mia seira megalwn zhthmatwn.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, xqes o Prwqypoyrgos ycwse -qa elege kaneis- toys tonoys, se sxesh me dyo shmantika qemata, opws einai to Kypriako kai o legomenos eyrwstratos kai zhthse eqnikh omocyxia. Pisteyete oti oi apanthseis poy phrate apo ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs kanoyn efikth ayth thn eqnikh omocyxia poy zhthse o Prwqypoyrgos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Omologw oti htan arnhtikh ekplhjh, gia oloys mas pisteyw, h anakoinwsh ths Neas Dhmokratias. Mia anakoinwsh poy jekina me th lejh "ceydetai" kai poy afora thn topoqethsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy ths xwras panw se krisima eqnika qemata, den tima to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Qa elega oti erxetai se antiqesh me to aisqhma toy ellhnikoy laoy. Krima, pragmati krima! Krima giati pisteyoyme oti h mizeria, h mikrocyxia, h elleich politikhs kai o laikismos ths N.D. qa eixan kai kapoia oria, idiaitera oson afora ta eqnika qemata. Pisteyw, omws, oti panta yparxei kairos gia na diorqwsoyn thn politikh toys. Kai akomh pisteyw oti isws kai katw apo to baros ths pieshs apo to lao, poy qelei thn eqnikh omocyxia otan yparxoyn krisima kai anoikta eqnika zhthmata, h N.D. qa exei thn eykairia na epanejetasei ayth thn aparadekth prwth antidrash kai na mhn epimeinei se aytoy toy eidoys thn politikh.

ALEJAKHS: Xqes bghkan ta stoixeia gia th diafqora apo thn ekqesh twn elegktwn Dhmosias Dioikhshs, me "prwtaqlhtries" -gia allh mia fora- Nomarxies, Dhmoys kai Poleodomies. Pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh ton "prwtaqlhtismo" se aytoys toys xwroys kai an yparxei amesh drash se sxesh me thn koinwnia ths plhroforias poy proballetai ws to antidoto gia thn patajh ths diafqoras se aytoys toys xwroys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw kat` arxas na qymisw oti ta stoixeia bghkan meta apo elegxoys poy eginan apo organa toy kratoys. Ayto shmainei oti kanoyn swsta th doyleia toys. Shmainei oti to kratos kanei th doyleia toy gia thn patajh ths diafqoras. Xreiazontai, bebaiws, symplhrwmatika metra. Kai ayta ejaggelqhkan xqes. Yphrje eidikh anafora apo ton armodio ypoyrgo Kwsta Skandalidh. Ara, eimaste se swsto dromo. Exoyme na antimetwpisoyme mia dyskolh katastash, opoy ta fainomena ayta den timoyn thn ellhnikh Dhmosia Dioikhsh, alla na eiste bebaioi oti me th synergasia ths pleiochfias kai twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn poy exoyn ygih prosanatolismo, twn koinwnikwn forewn kai -elpizw- olwn twn politikwn dynamewn, efoson toylaxiston einai diateqeimenoi na to kanoyn, qa mporesoyme na proxwrhsoyme ayth thn prospaqeia. Qa einai mia megalh kai dyskolh prospaqeia, alla h "kopros toy Aygeioy" prepei na kaqarisei. Kai qa kaqarisei.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Apo to nomosxedio poy paroysiase xqes o ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Skandalidhs, apoysiazoyn ta proejaggelqenta metra gia thn katapolemhsh toy paranomoy tzogoy kai toy oikonomikoy egklhmatos. Giati parapemfqhkan sto ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn ayta;

PRWTOPAPAS: Dioti, symfwna me to nomo, yparxei synarmodiothta me to ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn. Ara, prepei ayth h diadikasia na proxwrhsei apo to kat` ejoxhn armodio ypoyrgeio, poy einai to ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn. Omws, prepei na sas pw oti exei proxwrhsei h diadikasia, den eimaste dhladh sth fash ths enarjhs dhmioyrgias toy nomoy. Exei ginei mia poly shmantikh doyleia kai ektimw oti poly syntoma qa einai etoimh, wste na paroysiastei.

TSIBOLA: Sxetika me toys 13 Palaistinioys, yparxei kati neotero shmera; Alhqeyoyn kapoies plhrofories poy qeloyn na lynetai to qema sth Synodo ths Sebillhs, na parataqei dhladh to xroniko diasthma ews thn epilysh toy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyme kati kainoyrgio mexri ayth th stigmh, alla elpizw na mh ftasoyme ekei, bebaia, giati qa einai para poly asxhmo. Gnwrizw oti, bebaiws, yparxoyn pragmati polla problhmata, ejoxws nomika. Yparxoyn dhladh para polla erwthmata poy tiqentai kai qeloyme na elpizoyme oti oi apanthseis se ayta ta erwthmata qa breqoyn kai qa doqoyn me koinh apofash ths E.E. syntoma.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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