Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-05-14

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 14 Maioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

ANTYPAS: Me aformh th xqesinh dhlwsh sas gia th Syndiaskech toy PASOK, alla kai topoqethseis stelexwn toy poy eginan shmera mesw radiothleoptikwn Meswn, qa hqela na rwthsw poios einai o akribhs xarakthras poy prosdidei h kybernhsh se ayth th Syndiaskech, dedomenoy oti akoysame apoceis symfwna me tis opoies den einai oroshmo, alla kai topoqethseis symfwna me tis opoies ekei qa katartistei to neo manifesto ths Aristeras. Poia akribws einai h grammh toy PASOK;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean me rwtate ti qa prosferei h Syndiaskech toy PASOK sto ergo mas, qa hqela na sas parapemcw sth xqesinh apanthsh moy, poy kanei safes oti h Syndiaskech ayth mporei na prosferei shmantika se ena PASOK kalytera demeno me thn koinwnia, poy na ekfrazei tis agwnies kai toys poqoys twn koinwnikwn omadwn, idiaitera aytwn poy qeloyme na ekfrasoyme emeis, poy na mporei na exei ena sygxrono logo kai bebaiws na mporei na symmetexei energa kai me oysiastikes draseis stis eyrwpaikes ejelijeis. Mia tetoia Syndiaskech, poy qa ejetasei ola ayta ta zhthmata, mporei na prosferei shmantika sto ergo ths paratajhs mas. Ayto qelei kai ayto perimenei apo emas o ellhnikos laos: na doylecoyme oloi gia thn prowqhsh toy ergoy mas. Antiqeta, den qa prosferei oyte mia diadikasia eswstrefeias, oyte mia diadikasia, h opoia qa asxolhqei mono me agones syzhthseis kai anametrhseis, oi opoies -se telikh analysh- den endiaferoyn ton ellhniko lao, den aforoyn tis agwnies kai ta problhmata toy. Ayto eipa.

KAPPOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, xqes stis Bryjelles toso o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, oso kai o ypoyrgos Amynas dexqhkan - opws, toylaxiston, metadidoyn oi antapokriseis- foberes pieseis se sxesh me to qema toy eyrwstratoy kai malista apo to synolo twn "14". Qelw na rwthsw, prwton ean isxyei h aisiodojia poy exei ekfrasei h kybernhsh meta th Synodo Koryfhs ths Barkelwnhs kai deyteron ean isxyei h kybernhtikh topoqethsh gia veto sthn periptwsh poy ta pragmata den ejelixqoyn opws epiqymei h Aqhna.

PRWTOPAPAS: H qesh mas gia to qema toy ESDP, toy legomenoy eyrwstratoy, einai safhs. Den xwrei kamia amfisbhthsh: To keimeno ths Agkyras, ws einai, den qa ginei apodekto. Epanalambanw oti to qema toy ESDP afora genikotera tis sxeseis ths E.E. kai toy NATO. Den einai kamia dimerhs diafora, den einai diafora ths Elladas me kanenan. Einai ena qema arxhs, einai ena meizon qema. Gi` ayto den prokeitai na dextoyme to keimeno ths Agkyras. Kai bebaiws qa ejantlhsoyme ta mesa poy exoyme sth diaqesh mas, ean xreiastei . Eimaste apofasismenoi, giati mas endiaferei mia swsth politikh kai gia thn Eyrwph kai gia th xwra mas, fysika.

LEONTOPOYLOS: Me ton titlo "Synedrio Papandreoy, prin apo thn ollandikh syndiaskech",se shmerino dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas "Kerdos", to opoio ypografei o synadelfos k. Aggelos Mosxobas, anaferetai oti to "Idryma Andreas Papandreoy", sto opoio proedreyei o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, diorganwnei Synedrio Eyrwpaiwn Sosialistwn ton Ioynio, dhladh ligo prin apo thn organwtikh Syndiaskech toy PASOK. Grafetai, malista, oti o k. Papandreoy qa kataqesei shmantikes protaseis, opws h apeyqeias eklogh toy Proedroy toy Kinhmatos apo th bash, alla kai h anabaqmish ths idiothtas toy meloys toy PASOK. Dedomenoy oti o k. Papandreoy einai ychlobaqmo kybernhtiko kai kommatiko stelexos, pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh thn kinhsh ayth, lambanomenoy ypoch oti analogh prwtoboylia toy Grammatea ths K.E. toy PASOK k. Kwsta Laliwth exei hdh anablhqei gia to Fqinopwro;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaqe mh kybernhtikh organwsh mporei na analambanei tis dikes ths prwtoboylies. Den mporei na epibalei to PASOK kai poly perissotero h kybernhsh se mh kybernhtikes organwseis to eidos twn prwtoboyliwn poy qa analaboyn. Kaqe prwtoboylia poy analambanei mia mh kybernhtikh organwsh symballei sto dialogo gyrw apo to qema poy epilegei. Den exoyme kanena logo na to sxoliasoyme.

MPOTWNHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, xqes to brady apo to Mega, o k. Pagkalos askhse drimeia kritikh sthn kybernhsh kai malista eipe oti "den kybernatai h xwra", poy einai enas barys xarakthrismos, giati -opws eipe- den yparxei syntonismos anamesa stoys ypoyrgoys kai ton Prwqypoyrgo. Exete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw topoqethqei, apo xqes, se analogo erwthma.

MPEKATWROY: Sxetika me toys 13 Palaistinioys, ean erqoyn kapoia stigmh merikoi apo aytoys sthn Ellada, to Israhl exei epifylaxqei na zhthsei thn ekdosh toys. H Ellada exei symfwnia ekdoshs me to Israhl;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi 13 Palaistinioi poy qa moirastoyn se diafores xwres-melh ths E.E. qa ypokeintai se ena kaqestws poy qa prosdioristei. Yparxei mia seira apo nomika zhthmata poy syndeontai me ayth thn epilogh kai gi` ayto den elhfqh apofash xqes. Oi anqrwpoi aytoi qa erqoyn kai qa filojenhqoyn me nomiko kaqestws poy qa prosdioristei apo tis xwres-melh ths E.E.. Opws gnwrizete, eji apo tis xwres-melh ths E.E. exoyn ekdhlwsei thn proqymia na symmetexoyn se ayth thn prwtoboylia.

KAPPOS: Hqela na rwthsw, h E.E. opoy anhkei kai h Ellada -bebaia eipate kai einai orqo, oti den exei lyqei to nomiko problhma- ean anexetai na yparxoyn anqrwpoi sto edafos ths, oi opoioi oysiastika na einai omhroi toy Israhl. Einai dynato kati tetoio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa oti tis apofaseis lambanei h E.E. kai oxi trites xwres. Epomenws, den yfistatai tetoio qema.

GARGALAKOS: Shmera fqanei sthn Kypro o G.G. toy OHE Kofi Anan. Ti prosdokate apo ayth thn episkech;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai poly shmantikh h episkech toy G.G. toy OHE sthn Kypro, dioti, opws gnwrizete, einai se idiaitera apofasistikh kai krisimh fash, oi synomilies. Epomenws, kai h idia h paroysia toy G.G. toy OHE se mia tetoia fash, einai ena idiaitera shmantiko gegonos. Gnwrizete oti eixame kai enocei ayths ths episkechs, isws, ekdhlwseis adiallajias apo thn toyrkokypriakh pleyra kai merida ths toyrkikhs pleyras kai malista apo idiaitera epishma xeilh. Opws, hdh, gnwrizete yphrjan kai alles diaforetikes antidraseis apo pleyres ths toyrkikhs politikhs, oi opoies epishmanan oti tyxon synexish ths adiallajias, oysiastika qa dysxeranei shmantika thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias. Ayto poy emeis exoyme na kanoyme, einai na meinoyme staqeroi sth qesh mas. Qeloyme gia to Kypriako mia lysh biwsimh kai dikaih, sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE. Qa sthrijoyme tis prwtoboylies toy Proedroy Glaykoy Klhridh se ayth thn kateyqynsh. Bebaiws, anamenoyme kai tis tyxon prwtoboylies h tis tyxon protaseis toy idioy toy G.G. toy OHE. Ekeino poy qeloyme na epishmanoyme einai oti h toyrkikh pleyra qa prepei na epanejetasei th qesh ths kai na egkataleicei thn politikh ths adiallajias, katanowntas oti h qelhsh ths gia mia eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias den synadei me tetoies staseis kai antilhceis.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Problhmatizei thn ellhnikh kybernhsh oti o Kofi Anan qa episkefqei ton Raoyf Ntenktas sto grafeio toy sto Proedriko Megaro, sta legomena ``katexomena''; Den synista ayto emmesh anagnwrish toy ceydokratoys, afoy parabiazei oysiastika ta chfismata 541 kai 550 toy Symboylioy Asfaleias;

PRWTOPAPAS: Protimoyme na meinoyme sthn oysia. Kai h oysia einai oi politikes protaseis kai oi prwtoboylies poy qa yparjoyn.

MPEKATWROY: Na epanelqw sto prohgoymeno moy erwthma: H Ellada exei ypogracei pote kamia symfwnia ekdoshs me to Israhl, asxetws apo toys 13 Palaistinoys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizw ayto to qema poy twra qetete. Na to ereynhsw kai qa sas enhmerwsw. Alla, de nomizw oti exei kamia sxesh me th syzhthsh mas. Einai ejw apo kaqe plaisio ths syzhthshs mas. Den mporw na dexqw kai omologoymenws qa ypoxrewqw na antidrasw, ean yponoeite emmesws oti h Ellada qa ekdwsei toys Palaistinioys, toys opoioys h idia dexetai na filojenhsei sto plaisio twn apofasewn ths E.E. Einai pote dynaton kati tetoio; Otan leitoyrgoyme sto plaisio mias apofashs ths E.E., leitoyrgoyme me bash mia dieqnh symfwnia poy kanoyme, mesa stoys Dieqneis Organismoys poy metexoyme. Kai exoyme poly kaqares, entimes kai safeis apoceis gi ayto. Den xwroyn diapragmateyseis kai syzhthseis gyrw apo ayto. Mh dhmioyrgoyme, loipon, yponoies ekei poy den yparxoyn. Ayto den qa to dexqw.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, synexizontai ta biaia epeisodia metajy filaqlwn kai ektos ghpedwn, ap` o,ti fainetai. Xqes, eixame ena qlibero epeisodio, opoy traymatisthkan kapoioi mpasketmpolistes toy Panaqhnaikoy. H kybernhsh protiqetai na parei kapoia apofasistika metra pros thn kateyqynsh na mpei, telos pantwn, ena telos h an oxi na perioristei toylaxiston to fainomeno ths bias stoys aqlhtikoys xwroys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mas exei apasxolhsei kai mas apasxolei poly to qema ths antimetwpishs ths bias stoys aqlhtikoys xwroys kai idiaitera se ena laiko kai dhmofiles aqlhma, opws einai to podosfairo. Exw epaneilhmmena anaferqei se ayto. Exw katadikasei kai synexizw na katadikazw me ta pio kathgorhmatika logia me toys pio sklhroys xarakthrismoys kai epiqeta, tetoies energeies. Energeies xoyligkan kai anqrwpwn oi opoioi den skeftontai ygiws. Bebaiws, qelw na tonisw oti to sxetiko xqesino epeisodio elabe xwra ektos aqlhtikwn xwrwn. Opws gnwrizete h EL.AS. exei labei metra, exoyn ginei kai kapoies syllhceis. Oi ereynes qa proxwrhsoyn se baqos kai qa ginei o katalogismos twn eyqynwn. Apo kei kai pera, qeloyme na dhmioyrghsoyme ena neo plaisio kai se ayto xreiazetai h synergasia kai twn PAE kai genikotera twn aqlhtikwn swmateiwn. Gia na antimetwpistei h bia h Politeia einai apofasismenh na labei ola ta anagkaia metra. Alla, xreiazetai h synergasia kai twn Enwsewn twn swmateiwn kai twn PAE. Mono ean synergastoyme swsta, eilikrina kai timia mporoyme na dwsoyme to xarakthra poy prepei, to xarakthra ths giorths, to xarakthra mias ygioys aqlhtikhs ekdhlwshs sto laiko kai dhmofiles aqlhma toy podosfairoy, alla kai sta alla aqlhmata. Emeis eimaste apofasismenoi na to kanoyme, alla prepei oloi na analaboyme tis eyqynes mas.

MOYRTZHS: To poylman ayto synodeyotan apo motosikletistes. Qelw na rwthsw poia htan ta antanaklastika aytwn twn motosikletistwn; Kai ean qewreite to en logw qema, to kroysma ayto, periptwsiologia h kati poly pio sobaro;

PRWTOPAPAS: Topoqethqhka hdh kai nomizw oti sas kalyptw apolyta. Apo kei kai pera, adynatw na parakoloyqhsw ean kapoios motosikletisths antedrase me ton alfa h bhta tropo. Ayto qa to brei h ereyna thn opoia diejagei h Arxh, h Yphresia sthn opoia anhkei. Giati, opws gnwrizete, gia kaqe epeisodio ginetai ereyna apo thn armodia yphresia. H Astynomia, loipon, qa kanei ton apologismo ths kai qa mas enhmerwsei. Hdh, exoyn doqei oi sxetikes entoles.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Shmera, oles oi efhmerides grafoyn oti to poylman synodeyotan apo mia dimoiria twn MAT, ena peripoliko kai dyo motosikletistes. Qa hqela na epimeinw se ayto kai na zhthsw to sxolio sas gia th stash ths Astynomias, dioti tiqetai ena qema. Den milame gia ena motosikletisth , alla gia mia dimoiria, peripolika...

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti yphrje epiqesh se poylman kai oxi drash se sygkekrimeno xwro. Pisteyw oti topoqethqhka diejodika. H Astynomia qa kanei ton apologismo ths. Exoyn ginei syllhceis. An yphrje opoiodhpote problhma qa katalogistei. Se kaqe periptwsh, omws, qelw na pw oti h Politeia einai apofasismenh kai prowqei metra gia na patajei th bia. Ekeino poy xreiazetai einai kai h synergasia twn idiwn twn PAE kai twn swmateiwn. Dioti, otan anaptyssetai mia arnhtikh nootropia, otan pyrodotoyntai katastaseis, otan ginontai emprhstikes dhlwseis h energeies apo opoiadhpote pleyra, einai safes oti dhmioyrgeitai h bash panw sthn opoia qa ekdhlwqei kapoio fainomeno bias. H perifroyrhsh einai anagkaia, alla h katastolh den arkei. Den einai dynaton, kaqe fora, na ta prolabaineis ola. Xreiazetai kai h prolhch, h opoia prepei na epidiwketai mesa apo ena swsto plaisio synergasias.

KARGOYDH: Epeidh epimenete stis apanthseis sas oti to gegonos elabe xwra ektos aqlhtikoy xwroy, yponoeite kai anameijh ejwaqlhtikwn paragontwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Periegraca oti yparxoyn prosqetes texnikes dyskolies. Opwsdhpote h froyrhsh, otan einai ektos xwroy, kaqistatai perissotero problhmatikh. To katalabainete ayto.

SOYGLERHS: Eimaste poly konta sto na doyme toys proedroys twn PAE na kaqontai se ena trapezi me ton yfypoyrgo k. Koyrakh kai na syzhtoyn to qema ths bias, mias kai einai h prwth fora poy exoyme dei tetoio peristatiko tromokratias se baros mias omadas ektos ghpedoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai h prwth fora poy ginetai ayto, alla egine prwtoselido epeidh htan megales oi omades. Sas ypenqymizw oti kai sto parelqon, polles fores eixan ekdhlwqei tetoia aparadekta fainomena kai eixan lhfqei metra. Bebaiws, ayto poy ypainixqhkate einai poly swsto. Koines prwtoboylies apo ton armodio yfypoyrgo kai toys proedroys twn PAE, einai eyktaio kai anagkaio na yparjoyn. Telika, h bia den wfelei kanenan. Exei apodeixqei oti katastrefei kai to podosfairo h kai ta alla aqlhmata. Prepei na katalaboyme oti gia na paei o kosmos na ta parakoloyqhsei, qelei na blepei mia pragmatikh aqlhtikh amilla. Den qelei na symmetexei se bia, oyte se kinhseis poy, se telikh analysh, qigoyn thn ajioprepeia kai apeiloyn th swmatikh akeraiothta.

ALEJAKHS: Shmera h ayrio, o Epitropos gia ta Nomismatika k. Solmpes kataqetei sto Strasboyrgo mia ekqesh gia ta dhmosionomika. Taytoxrona, sth Gallia yparxei megalh syzhthsh kai o Sirak, apo o,ti fainetai, qa aposxei h qa parei apostaseis apo to Symfwno Staqerothtas. Yparxei kapoia skech sthn Ellada, oytws wste, enocei kai ths Ellhnikhs Proedrias, sth diarkeia ths opoias mallon qa syzhthqoyn ayta ta zhthmata, na yparjei anaqewrhsh toy Symfwnoy Staqerothtas, pragma poy shmainei oti kai h Ellada qa exei mia megalyterh dynatothta gia dapanes, gia allagh twn dedomenwn sthn oikonomikh kai dhmosionomikh politikh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti kati tetoio den yparxei sthn atzenta.

TSIKRITA: Qa hqela to sxolio sas gia to gegonos oti h N.D. proteinei na einai ypochfios dhmarxos sth Samo o k. Karamhnas, o opoios prin apo kapoio diasthma eixe diagrafei apo th N.D., me aformh ena sygkekrimeno peristatiko.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyme kamia proswpikh h allhs morfhs antidikia me ton k. Karamhna. Omologoymenws, omws, h erwthsh sas dhmioyrgei ena problhmatismo gia to komma ths N.D. To komma ths N.D., epikaloymeno logoys hqikhs tajhs, den epetrece ston k. Karamhna na symmetexei sto chfodeltio toy gia to Nomo Samoy stis ekloges toy 2000. Rwtw; Ayto to qema hqikhs tajhs den yparxei twra; Yparxei allh hqikh tajh gia to chfodeltio toy kommatos kai allh hqikh tajh gia thn yposthrijh enos ypochfioy dhmarxoy; Dhmioyrgoyntai eyloga erwthmatika, ta opoia apodeiknyoyn poso pisteyei ayta poy leei h N.D.

KAPPOS: Hqela na rwthsw, ean o Proedros Klhridhs kai oi ekproswpoi toy dieqnoys paragonta, synantoyn, se antiqesh me ton Kofi Anan, to Raoyf Ntenktas, eite sthn oydeterh zwnh toy aerodromioy ths Leykwsias, eite sth nekrh zwnh, ayto einai akribws gia na mhn anagnwrisoyn thn opoia idiothta epikaleitai o k. Ntenktas. Ayto einai symperifora epi toy typoy h epi ths oysias;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw topoqethqei, hdh. To Kypriako einai ena sobarotato politiko qema. Einai ena qema oysias. Kai ayto poy exw na tonisw einai oti ws qema oysias prepei na ajiologhqei kai na antimetwpistei. Den anhkw se ekeinoys -kai kaneis den prepei na anhkei- oi opoioi gia paradeigma eqesan analoga erwthmata otan perase th diaxwristikh grammh o Proedros Klhridhs gia na paei sto spiti toy k. Ntenktas.

KAPPOS: Sto spiti, oxi sto Megaro.

PRWTOPAPAS: H idia logikh qa mporoyse na yparjei kai ekei. Mia einai h pragmatikothta kai prepei na thn koitajoyme kapote katamata. Na mhn krybomaste pisw apo to daktylo mas. Na exoyme kaqaro politiko logo sta ejwterika qemata. Qeloyme h den qeloyme na lyqei to Kypriako; Ean qeloyme to Kypriako na lyqei swsta kai sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE, prepei na antimetwpisoyme ta problhmata poy sxetizontai me ayto ws qemata oysias. Shmera, einai se mia poly krisimh fash. O Genikos Grammateas toy OHE phgainei sthn Kypro. Einai mia episkech poly shmantikh kai isws kaqoristikh gia tis ejelijeis. Ean me rwthsete ean eimai aisiodojos, qa sas pw oti eimai idiaitera sygkrathmena aisiodojos. Gnwrizoyme oloi tis dyskolies poy yparxoyn apo thn emfanizomenh -elpizw na mh synexistei- toyrkikh adiallajia. Qa antimetwpisoyme, loipon, thn opoia ejelijh, ws qema oysias, sthrizontas tis prwtoboylies toy Proedroy Klhridh.

SOYGLERHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean ektima h kybernhsh oti pame sth diadromh ths poreias katoxhs ths Kyproy h ths eyrwpaikhs poreias entajhs ths sthn E.E. Blepete kati diaforetiko, meta thn episkech toy Kofi Anan;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai epibeblhmeno na perimenoyme na ejelixqei h episkech gia na bgaloyme ta symperasmata mas. H epilysh toy Kypriakoy den syndeetai me thn poreia entajhs ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias sthn E.E. Mhn kanoyme ayto to laqos. Oloi katanooyme oti kapoioi oneireyontai syndesh kai milw gia thn allh pleyra. Den qa kanoyme emeis to laqos na yioqethsoyme ta epixeirhmata ths allhs pleyras.

Sas eyxaristw.

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