Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-02-18

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 18 Febroyarioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ayths ths ebdomadas.

Ayth thn wra pragmatopoieitai syskech sto Megaro Majimoy, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai th symmetoxh ypoyrgwn, gia to qema twn ektaktwn toy dhmosioy tomea. Meta th lhjh ths syskechs qa ekdoqei anakoinwsh. Stis 14.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei me to Grammatea toy PASOK K. Laliwth.

Thn Trith, stis 11 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei ta erga poy ginontai sthn Attikh Odo, opoy qa kanei kai dhlwsh. Stis 17.30, qa ypodexqei ton Prwqypoyrgo toy Loyjemboyrgoy k. Gioyngker. Stis 18.30, qa exei synergasia me toys ypoyrgoys Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn N. Xristodoylakh kai Metaforwn Xr. Berelh, gia to qema ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias. Stis 19.45, qa parastei sthn omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy toy Loyjemboyrgoy kai sth synexeia oi dyo Prwqypoyrgoi qa parakaqisoyn se epishmo deipno.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, qa pragmatopoihqei syskech toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ypoyrgoys kai stelexh toy kommatos gia thn proetoimasia ths episkechs toy stoys nomoys Pellas kai Hmaqias, thn Paraskeyh kai to Sabbato. Stis 12 to meshmeri, qa exei synomilies me ton Prwqypoyrgo toy Loyjemboyrgoy kai sth synexeia qa paraxwrhsoyn koinh synenteyjh Typoy. Stis 19.00, qa ginei syskech me thn paroysia ths politikhs hgesias toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn gia thn proetoimasia ths analhchs ths Elladas ths Proedrias ths E.E., to prwto ejamhno toy 2003.

Thn Pempth, stis 10 to prwi, qa synelqei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me qema thn poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy.

Thn Paraskeyh kai to Sabbato einai programmatismenh episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy, stoys nomoys Pellas kai Hmaqias. Qa synodeyetai apo armodioys ypoyrgoys.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Yphrje qema anabolhs ths episkechs toy k. Shmith sthn Hmaqia kai thn Pella, meta tis apokalyceis gia tis sxeseis feromenwn ws anamemeigmenwn ston paranomo tzogo, me stelexh ths kybernhshs kai sygkekrimena me ton k. Pasxalidh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yphrje tetoia periptwsh.

MIXAHL: Eidan, xqes, to fws ths dhmosiothtas apo thleoptikes ekpompes kai sygkekrimena toy k. Triantafyllopoyloy, fwtografies, toy feromenoy ws anamemeigmenoy ston paranomo tzogo, me ton k. Pasxalidh. Gia sas, den yparxei politiko zhthma, dedomenoy oti o k. Pasxalidhs, arxikws elege oti den ton gnwrize kai edw apodeiknyetai oti exoyn fwtografhqei mazi sto grafeio toy kai blepoyme oti, paroti den ton gnwrize, kanoyn kai parea;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ta pragmata den einai opws ta lete. Exete probei se orismena ayqaireta symperasmata. Yparxei h shmerinh anakoinwsh toy k. Pasxalidh, sthn opoia sas parapempw. Gia thn kybernhsh isxyoyn oi dhlwseis poy ekana thn perasmenh ebdomada.

MIXAHL: Afoy, loipon, isxyei ayto gia thn kybernhsh, giati den isxyse to idio kai gia ton k. Xrysanqakopoylo kai gi` ayton phrate drastika metra;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas qymisw oti htan diaforetikh periptwsh. Me ton k. Xrysanqakopoylo yphrjan orismenes syzhthseis, me orismenes diapragmateyseis, entos h ektos eisagwgikwn, kata tis opoies eqighsan seira zhthmatwn poy synektimhqhkan.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na mas peite, ean o k. Pasxalidhs qa einai sto klimakio twn ypoyrgwn poy qa synodeysei ton Prwqypoyrgo, kata thn periodeia toy sthn Pella kai Hmaqia. Kai epishs, qa hqela na to akoysoyme pali, ean h kybernhsh einai allhleggyh ston k. Pasxalidh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws, o k. Pasxalidhs qa einai sto klimakio sth diarkeia ths episkechs toy Prwqypoyrgoy stoys nomoys Hmaqias kai Pellas. Gia ta ypoloipa, isxyoyn oi dhlwseis moy ths prohgoymenhs Paraskeyhs.

MOYRTZHS: Qa hqela na maqw, ean entypwsiase ton Prwqypoyrgo h fwtografia toy k. Pasxalidh me ton idiokthth twn paranomwn mhxanhmatwn hlektronikoy tzogoy. Kai rwtw, gia to mhnyma poy moiraia ekpempei ayth h eikona poy enisxyei th mhdenistikh, fasistikh paradoxh oti oloi einai to idio.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den jerw ean isxyoyn tetoioy eidoys paradoxes. Qelw na sas parapemcw stis shmerines dhlwseis toy k. Pasxalidh kai na pw oti isxyoyn sto akeraio oi dhlwseis moy ths prohgoymenhs ebdomadas.

MOYRTZHS: Episkech abrofrosynhs htan h episkech toy k. Pasxalidh sto grafeio toy k. Tekteridh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exei apanthsei o k. Pasxalidhs, me th shmerinh anakoinwsh toy.

IWANNOY: Yioqetei h kybernhsh kapoies apoceis poy akoygontai, meta kai tis teleytaies "apokalyceis" gia ton k. Pasxalidh h me ta osa synebhsan me ton k. Mpeno, oti mporei na etoimazetai ena neo sxedio apostaqeropoihshs kai an ayto afora thn kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: O,ti einai qa fanei.

XRISTAKOS: Meta tis shmerines dhlwseis toy ypoyrgoy Metaforwn k. Berelh poio einai akribws to mellon ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias kai poia diadikasia qa akoloyqhsei h kybernhsh oson afora thn idiwtikopoihsh toy eqnikoy aerometaforea;

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh ekane mia poly megalh prospaqeia gia na brei mia swsth lysh sthn ejetash kai ths deyterhs protashs. Omws, ta oikonomika stoixeia kai oi eggyhseis poy paroysiasan oi endiaferomenoi den kriqhkan eparkh. Etsi, den egine apodekth kai h deyterh prosfora. Bebaiws, isxyoyn ta osa exoyme pei gia to mellon ths Olympiakhs. H O.A. qa synexisei na petaei kai qa laboyme ola ta anagkaia metra gia na mhn epibarynei ton ellhniko lao. Paramenei staqeros o prosanatolismos mas sthn idiwtikopoihsh ths. Gia to logo ayto ta synarmodia ypoyrgeia epejergazontai ena programma ejygianshs ths O.A., to opoio syndeetai me thn idiwtikopoihsh ths. To programma ayto qa anakoinwqei meta tis sxetikes kybernhtikes apofaseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, ayto to programma perilambanei apolyseis sto proswpiko ths O.A.;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa perilabei apolyseis. Qa yparjei, bebaiws, mia seira metrwn gia th meiwsh toy kostoys. To programma ejygianshs, to opoio syndeetai arrhkta me thn prooptikh idiwtikopoihshs ths O.A. qa eggyhqei kai to mellon ths. H O.A. qa synexisei na petaei, xwris na dhmioyrgei problhmata xrewn poy qa epibarynoyn ton ellhniko lao.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai ayta ta xreh poy exei mexri twra poios qa ta plhrwsei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safes oti ena programma ejygianshs prepei na apallajei thn etaireia apo tis mexri twra ypoxrewseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh, k. Ypoyrge, einai to trito programma ejygianshs, exoyn "fygei" polla dis, qa synexistei ayto to pragma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti katablhqhkan poly megales prospaqeies gia thn idiwtikopoihsh ths O.A.. Gnwrizete, epishs, oti eimaste se ena idiaitera dysmenes periballon gia tis aeroporikes etaireies. Qa jerete, fantazomai, oti exoyn kleisei aeroporikes etaireies kai malista poly megalyteres apo thn O.A.. Qa gnwrizete oti exoyn ginei drastika programmata ejygianshs kai perikopwn se alles. Qa gnwrizete oti eimaste se mia fash poy o xwros aytos pernaei krish. Mesa se aytes tis synqhkes doyleyoyme kai opws blepete doyleyoyme poly kala.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos einai eyxaristhmenos poy blepei ypoyrgoys toy h stelexh toy na exoyn sxesh me "nonoys" toy tzogoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Se ayta ta zhthmata exw apanthsei diejodika.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pws exete apanthsei; Edw yparxei gegonos oti ypoyrgos ths kybernhshs einai parea me ena "nono" toy tzogoy kai opws kaqetai einai san na mhn ypologizei kai ton ypoyrgo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den jerw ean kanete shmeiologikes analyseis sto kaqe qema. En pash periptwsei yparxei h shmerinh anakoinwsh toy k. Pasxalidh, sthn opoia sas parapempw, kai yparxoyn epishs oi dhlwseis moy ths perasmenhs ebdomadas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw qelw na maqw ti leei h kybernhsh, ti leei o ekproswpos ths.

PRWTOPAPAS: Topoqethqhka, hdh.

BITALHS: Qelw na sas rwthsw ean ton Prwqypoyrgo ton apasxolei ena qema poy anoije thn Kyriakh se synenteyjh toy o Grammateas ths K.E. toy PASOK Kwstas Laliwths, anaforika me synergasies me thn Aristera, programmatikes sygkliseis, akomh kai kybernhsh metajy twn kommatwn toy PASOK kai ths Aristeras.

PRWTOPAPAS: Pragmati, yparxoyn polles kai shmantikes anafores sth synenteyjh toy k. Laliwth. Ekeino poy qelw na pw einai pws einai logiko to PASOK na endiaferetai gia enan eyry dialogo, ena dialogo strathgikoy xarakthra me tis politikes dynameis toy xwroy ths Aristeras kai ths Kentroaristeras. Ektimw oti o dialogos aytos mporei na odhghsei se sygkliseis, symfwnies, programmatikes koines desmeyseis, poy einai safes oti qa symballoyn shmantika sthn prowqhsh twn allagwn poy exei anagkh h xwra mas. Bebaiws, o dialogos qa synteinei kai sth dhmioyrgia enos eyryteroy koinwnikoy reymatos pleiochfias, to opoio qa mporei na eggyhqei thn epityxh antapokrish ths Elladas kai ths koinwnias mas -kai to tonizw ayto- sto neo periballon. Me ayth thn ennoia stekomaste idiaitera qetika. Ean mporei na odhghqoyme kai se mia eyryterh programmatikh sygklish, se ena programma poy qa paroysiastei enwpion toy ellhnikoy laoy kai qa katalhjei se mia politikh synergasia, einai safes oti qa eimaste idiaitera eytyxeis. Ayto, omws, qa fanei. Yparxei h prooptikh, yparxei h qesh mas, yparxoyn, qa elega, ta qetika symperasmata poy exoyn bgei apo mia seira tetoies kinhseis.

BITALHS: Katalabainw oti einai qetikoi kai o Prwqypoyrgos kai h ellhnikh kybernhsh. Qelw, omws, na rwthsw sas problhmatizei h mexri twra epifylaktikothta poy diatypwqhke kai apo ton k. Kwnstantopoylo kai apo alla stelexh toy Synaspismoy; Pisteyete oti yparxei h dynatothta na jeperastei ayth h kaxypocia kai en pash periptwsei aytes oi antirrhseis poy yparxoyn apo thn pleyra toy Synaspismoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ekdhlwqhkan -kai ayto einai alhqeia- kapoies antirrhseis, kapoia epifylaktikothta, qa elega, apo thn pleyra stelexwn toy Synaspismoy, alla kai toy Proedroy toy. Ekeino poy exoyme emeis na kanoyme einai na mh menoyme se xqesina zhthmata poy piqanws na dhmioyrghqhkan sto parelqon kai poy exoyn ws apotelesma na emfanistei ayth h epifylaktikothta. Koitame mprosta, koitame pros to mellon. Kai enas dialogos anamesa ston eyrytero xwro ths Aristeras kai ths Kentroaristeras einai oso pote anagkaios, giati opws antilambaneste h metejelijh toy oloys politikoy mas systhmatos eynoei aytes tis synqhkes. Qa yparxoyn oi dynatothtes na koybentiasoyme panw sta problhmata, na anazhthsoyme symfwnies, na anazhthsoyme koines desmeyseis, na anazhthsoyme programmatikes sygkliseis. Oso pio poly proxwrame se ayto -kai den exei na kanei mono me tis dhmotikes ekloges, alla me th genikoterh politikh mas poreia- toso kai oi opoies epifylajeis qa airontai. Einai enas dialogos poy prepei na jekinhsei, enas dialogos poy qa dokimastei, einai omws enas dialogos poy prepei strathgika na proxwrhsei. Kai se o,ti mas afora pisteyoyme idiaitera, me oroys oramatikoys, me oroys strathgikoys, se ayton.

Bebaiws, qelw na tonisw kai kati allo: Ajizei na epishmanoyme ton paniko ths N.D. kai twn stelexwn ths, apo to koryfaio epipedo toy arxhgoy ths mexri mia seira stelexwn poy espeysan me idiaitera -qa elega- bareis xarakthrismoys -kai ayto apodeiknyei ton paniko toys- na epiteqoyn sthn protash synergasias, sthn protash dialogoy poy egine apo to Grammatea toy kommatos mas. Ayto deixnei tis proqeseis ths N.D.. Anyparjia politikhs, anyparjia programmatos, anyparjia qesewn, kenothta periexomenoy. Tipota den exei na prosqesei kai na prosferei. Apla prosdoka, sth logikh kata th gnwmh ths toy "wrimoy froytoy", pash qysia na katakthsei thn ejoysia. Pisteyw oti o panikos twn stelexwn ths N.D. kai toy arxhgoy ths einai ena shmeio poy ofeiloyme idiaitera na epishmanoyme: O tromos toys pros mia tetoia prooptikh, einai emfanhs.

KWSTANTINIDHS: Bebaia, gia na yparjei ayth h synergasia toy PASOK me tis aristeres dynameis, h Aristera qetei enan aparabato oro, na allajei to eklogiko systhma kai na pame sthn aplh analogikh. Eiste apofasismenoi na fqasete mexri ekeinoy toy shmeioy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaneis den mporei na prokaqorisei to pws qa proxwrhsei kai ti symperasmata qa ejaxqoyn. Qa elega oti einai poly nwris. Gnwrizete, omws, oti mesa stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs, alla oxi se ayth th fash, einai na syzhthsei mia seira qematwn poy exoyn sxesh me th metejelijh toy politikoy mas systhmatos, metajy twn opoiwn einai kai o eklogikos nomos. Den qewrw oti ayto prepei na tiqetai ws proapaitoymeno kai bebaiws den einai ena qema ths stigmhs. Otan erqei h wra toy kai otan exoyn wrimasei oi synqhkes, exoyme pei pws qa apotelesei ena stoixeio dialogoy.

MOYRTZHS: O Prwqypoyrgos sto parelqon kai polla stelexh toy PASOK exoyn antitaxqei sto systhma ths aplhs analogikhs h se analogikotero eklogiko systhma, dioti qewroyn oti ena systhma aplhs analogikhs qa dieykolynei ta diaplekomena symferonta na mpoyn sthn politikh zwh toy topoy. Dhladh, ektimoyn oti shmera, an oi diaplekomenoi diaqetoyn koinoboyleytikws tis omades poy diathroyn ta kommatika synora, tote me thn aplh analogikh qa enisxyqei o agwnas aytos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Wraies einai oi anhsyxies sas, alla qelw na pw oti den anaferqhka se eklogika systhmata. Qelw na qymisw oti h protash toy k. Laliwth kanei logo gia koinh kaqodo, dioti o eklogikos nomos den mporei na allajei gia tis ekloges toy 2004, ektos ean symfwnhsei kai h N.D. Me ayth thn ennoia, o k. Laliwths anaferqhke se koinh kaqodo poy qa dwsei isxyres kybernhseis. Kai ayto qelw na to tonisw.

MIXAHL: O k. Kwnstantopoylos htan men epifylaktikos, alla ebale, kai kapoio, as moy epitrecete na to pw, oro gia na jekinhsei aytos o dialogos...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to katalaba ws oro.

MIXAHL: Qa sas pw poios einai o oros. O oros einai oti h yparxoysa kybernhtikh politikh qa prepei na allajei, dioti opws efarmozetai shmera apo thn kybernhsh sas den qewreitai apo thn pleyra toy ikanh kai anagkaia synqhkh na prosxwrhsei se ayto to dialogo, gia na breqoyn sto baqos toy xronoy aytes oi sygkliseis poy lete. Eiste apofasismenoi na allajete ayth thn kybernhtikh politikh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eimaste apofasismenoi na koybentiasoyme panw se koina programmata, sygkliseis, symperasmata, akomh kai th dhmioyrgia enos eyryteroy koinwnikoy reymatos pleiochfias, to opoio qa mporei na eggyhqei thn epityxia orismenwn stoxwn sthn Ellada. Oloi katalabainoyme oti ayth h poreia qa proxwrhsei mesa apo dyskolies. Alla, ekeino poy xreiazetai einai na katalaboyme oti prepei na proxwrhsoyme. Ekeino poy xreiazetai einai na ginei syneidhsh se olo ton eyrytero xwro ths Aristeras kai ths Kentroaristeras oti h dhmioyrgia enos megaloy poloy sthn politikh, enos eyryteroy reymatos, enos pleiochfikoy reymatos mesa sthn koinwnia, qa exei pollaplasiastika qetika apotelesmata kai gia th xwra kai gia thn koinwnia.

ARGYROS: Na gyrisoyme sto qema ths O.A. Meta to sxedio ejygianshs, h O.A. qa parameinei aytonomh h qa exoyme enan neo diagwnismo gia na idiwtikopoihqei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa oti to sxedio ejygianshs syndeetai arrhkta me thn prooptikh idiwtikopoihshs ths O.A.

ARGYROS: Pote qa synedriasei h Diypoyrigkh Epitroph gia na feroyn oi ypoyrgoi ta metra kata ths diafqoras;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ta prwta metra, oson afora ton paranomo tzogo, isws ta exoyme poly syntoma.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Ep aytoy, ti protiqetai na kanei h kybernhsh, qa allajei to nomo; Qa kleisei ayta ta magazia me ta hlektronika paixnidia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epeidh oloklhrwnetai h sxetikh proetoimasia kai den qa htan skopimo na prokatalabw th synedriash kybernhtikoy organoy, qa pw oti yparxei proqesh poly grhgora na ejetastei apo kybernhtiko organo olh ayth h ypoqesh toy paranomoy tzogoy, na lhfqoyn aysthra prosqeta metra kai bebaiws, na ginoyn oles oi anagkaies kinhseis gia thn prostasia ths koinwnias. Apo kei kai pera, qa elega na perimenoyme tis synedriaseis kai tis apofaseis twn organwn. Meta qa yparjoyn sxetikes anakoinwseis.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Epeidh eixe diafanei oti endexetai na syndeqoyn kai me tis efories ta ``eyagh'' ayta idrymata, yparxei tetoia proqesh ths kybernhshs h h kybernhsh einai apofasismenh na ktyphsei to kako sth riza toy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxei proqesh na paroyme ola ta anagkaia metra, wste na aysthropoihqei h sxetikh nomoqesia, na perioristei sto elaxisto dynato h na mhdenistoyn opoiesdhpote dynatothtes mias tetoias paranomhs prajhs, metra poy qa prostateyoyn thn koinwnia. Qeloyme na eimaste poly aysthroi. Qeloyme na mhn yparxei paranomos tzogos h tzogos se anoiktoys xwroys, eleyqerhs prosbashs. Qeloyme na lhfqoyn ta anagkaia metra gia thn prostasia twn politwn. Omws, qa elega na perimenoyme tis synedriaseis toy kybernhtikoy organoy -poy mporei na einai poly syntoma- kai tote qa anakoinwqoyn metra gia thn antimetwpish toy paranomoy tzogoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gnwrizei o Prwqypoyrgos, ean kai alloi ypoyrgoi exoyn sxeseis me ``nonoys'' toy tzogoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kanenas ypoyrgos den exei sxesh me ``nonoys'' toy tzogoy. Sas parakalw poly.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Noiwqw thn anagkh na sas qesw to ejhs erwthma: Ayrio, opws gnwrizete, teleiwnei h prwth fash twn synomiliwn sthn Kypro, metajy toy Proedroy Klhridh kai toy Raoyf Ntenktas. Elega na sas zhthsw na kanoyme ena mikro apologismo...

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai poly nwris...

KWNSTANTINIDHS: ...h pws qa xarakthrizate, mexri twra, tis qeseis Agkyras, Ntenktas, oson afora thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epeidh epikeitai h oloklhrwsh toy prwtoy kykloy, epikeitai episkech toy Proedroy Klhridh sthn Aqhna kai epikeitai kai synedriash toy Eqnikoy Symboylioy ths Kyproy, ean den kanw laqos stis 25 Febroyarioy, qa hqela na mhn prokatalabw. Apo eyaisqhsia kai prin apo tis sxetikes synennohseis me thn kypriakh kybernhsh, den prepei na to kanoyme.

KAPPOS: Thn Paraskeyh, ean den kanw laqos, o Mpoylent Etzebit, ekane kapoies dhlwseis kai proteine sthn ellhnikh pleyra, o ellhnotoyrkikos dialogos -o opoios bainei, opws bainei, exei arxisei opws exei arxisei- na epistrecei sth fash twn mystikwn diapragmateysewn. Profanws, den einai o Etzebit, o opoios qa orisei to montelo twn diapragmateysewn, alla anarwtiemai, h qesh ths Elladas ws pros ayto to montelo, poia einai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yphrjan, den yparxoyn kai den mporei na yparxoyn mystikes diapragmateyseis.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: H efhmerida ``Xrhmatisthrio'', sto prwtoselido ths shmera, anaferei oti tiqetai qema akyrwshs twn apofasewn twn genikwn syneleysewn etairiwn, logw ths praktikhs toy ypoyrgeioy kai ths dikhs sas, me tis adeies, stis efhmerides poy dhmosieyoyn tis apofaseis aytes kai afhnei na ennohqei oti den xeirizeste swsta ton tropo me ton opoio dinontai oi adeies aytes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Profanws, kapoio problhma qa exei h efhmerida kai kanei aytes tis anafores. Emeis xeirizomaste ta qemata ayta, me bash thn epejergasia twn yphresiwn mas. Den epembainoyme oi idioi pote. Yparxei epejergasia twn yphresiwn mas kai apolyth thrhsh ths nomimothtas. Einai logiko na yparxoyn monimws gkrinies apo kapoioys poy aisqanontai adikhmenoi, alla qelw na toys diabebaiwsw oti den adikoyntai.

MPOTWNHS: Yparxei h plhroforia oti kapoio melos ths 17N poy twra den sxetizetai me thn organwsh, eixe dwsei kapoies plhrofories stis arxes ths 10etias toy @90. Gnwrizei h kybernhsh kati tetoio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei tetoio qema. Sas parapempw sxetika stis dhlwseis toy ypoyrgoy Dhmosias Tajhs M. Xrysoxoidh.

MPOTWNHS: To ypoyrgeio Oikonomias skeftetai na ylopoihsei mia apofash gia ``xaratsi'' anadromiko, opws lene oi mikro-epixeirhmaties. Malista, miloyn gia katalhceis ktiriwn, eforiwn, ypoyrgeiwn k.t.l. Peite mas poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den problepetai kanena ``xaratsi'' kai malista anadromika. Kaqe fora, to ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn prospaqei na dinei lyseis kai malista tis kalyteres, wste kai h agora na leitoyrgei eyryqma kai to Dhmosio na mh xanei forologika esoda, ej onomatos toy ellhnikoy laoy.

MPOTWNHS: Alla, zhta apo mikroepixeirhseis ennea ekatommyria gia ta teleytaia tria xronia. Ayto shmainei ``loyketo'' se kapoies epixeirhseis.

PRWTOPAPAS: Nomizw oti exei na kanei me eidikes periptwseis. Qa epikoinwnhsw me to ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn, na doyme gia poies periptwseis prokeitai.

KANELLOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos epikoinwnhse shmera me ton k. Pasxalidh, prin aytos kanei thn anakoinwsh toy h genikotera, ean milhse mazi toy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo o,ti gnwrizw, yphrje mia epikoinwnia thn perasmenh ebdomada.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Milw gia shmera...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizw.

Sas eyxaristw.

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