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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 10 Ioylioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Symplhrwmatikws, gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, qelw na sas anakoinwsw oti ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, qa episkefqei thn Cytalleia. Gnwrizete oti ekei, ektos apo to biologiko kaqarismo poy exei hdh dwsei apta apotelesmata kai o Sarwnikos einai, pleon, se poly ychlo pososto, mia kaqarh qalassa, dhmioyrgeitai monada paragwghs energeias apo kaysh bioaerioy.

Qelw na ypenqymisw oti, symfwna me to programma poy sas exw anakoinwsei apo xqes, o Prwqypoyrgos ayrio to prwi, sto Zappeio, qa labei meros se hmerida gia to mellon ths Eyrwphs. Me thn hmerida ayth, arxizei o eqnikos dialogos gia ena poly shmantiko qema poy afora to synolo ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai fysika th xwra mas. O Prwqypoyrgos qa anaferqei sto pws o idios kai h kybernhsh antilambanomaste thn poreia ths eyrwpaikhs oloklhrwshs. Qa laboyn to logo, bebaiws, o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, paragontes apo thn akadhmaikh kai episthmonikh koinothta, ekproswpoi twn kommatwn, koinwnikoi foreis kai syndikata. Mporoyme na milhsoyme gia enan eqniko dialogo, gyrw apo to shmantiko ayto qema.

Qa moy epitrecete, epishs, na ekfrasw thn eyxh mas, na oloklhrwqei me epityxia o dialogos metajy twn politikwn dynamewn sth FYROM, prokeimenoy na odhghqoyme se mia symfwnia, wste sth synexeia na arxisei kai syntoma na oloklhrwqei h diadikasia afoplismoy twn ejtremistikwn dynamewn poy droyn sth geitonikh xwra. Einai qetiko to gegonos oti, para ta sporadika kroysmata, se genikes grammes threitai h ekexeiria poy symfwnhqhke prin apo liges hmeres. Pisteyoyme oti o sxediasmos toy NATO gia thn apostolh dynamewn, prokeimenoy na parakoloyqhsoyn kai na elegjoyn th diadikasia afoplismoy, qa efarmostei, afoy omws oloklhrwqei o politikos dialogos, me symfwnia twn kommatwn sth geitonikh xwra. Parakoloyqoyme to qema ayto kai qeloyme pragmatika na epanelqei h hremia sthn perioxh. Pisteyoyme oti thn eyqynh gia na odhghqoyme se ayth th qetikh ejelijh, thn exoyn ta politika kommata twn Skopiwn, thn opoia qa analaboyn sthn prajh kai qa antapokriqoyn se ayth.

Epishs, qa hqela na anaferqw kai sto qema twn albanikwn eklogwn. Gnwrizete oti oloklhrwqhke kai o deyteros gyros. H ekqesh twn parathrhtwn toy OASE anaferetai stis synqhkes katw apo tis opoies diejhxqhsan oi ekloges. Htan ikanopoihtikes oi synqhkes, opws anaferei kai o megalos aytos dieqnhs Organismos. Ta apotelesmata ginontai se genikes grammes dekta kai den amfisbhtoyntai. Mporoyme na poyme oti me th nea kybernhsh ths geitonikhs xwras, h opoia qa sygkrothqei tis epomenes hmeres, qa synexisoyme na exoyme stenes sxeseis gia to kalo kai twn dyo xwrwn. Exoyme idiaitero endiaferon gia thn eqnikh meionothta. Pisteyoyme oti h nea albanikh kybernhsh qa prospaqhsei, akomh perissotero, prokeimenoy, antimetwpizontas ta problhmata ths ellhnikhs meionothtas poy zei sthn Albania, na symbalei sthn peraiterw beltiwsh twn ellhno-albanikwn sxesewn.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh einai eyxaristhmenh apo ta apotelesmata ayta, oti h ellhnikh meionothta ekei den mporese na eklejei oyte enan, giati yphrjan ekbiasmoi kai apeiles;

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, h Omonoia -mesw toy Kommatos ths Enwshs Anqrwpinwn Dikaiwmatwn sto opoio symmetexei- fainetai, symfwna me ta apotelesmata, oti qa ekproswphqei sth nea Boylh. Ara, loipon, den tiqetai qema mh ekloghs boyleytwn toy meionotikoy kommatos. Gnwrizete, allwste, oti ellhnikhs katagwghs politikoi, eklegontai boyleytes, symmetexontas stoys syndyasmoys kai twn allwn kommatwn ths Albanias. Epishs, gnwrizete oti eixe ginei prospaqeia apo tis dynameis ths meionothtas na exoyn paroysia kai symmetoxh stis eklogikes diadikasies, oso ginetai perissoteroi Albanoi polites poy zoyn sthn Ellada. Dystyxws, h symmetoxh ayth, opws martyroyn ta stoixeia, ypoleipetai twn stoxwn poy eixe qesh h idia h meionothta. Ayto, omws, einai ena qema poy den afora thn Albania kai tis diadikasies twn allwn kommatwn. Afora to komma ths Enwshs Anqrwpinwn Dikaiwmatwn kai thn Omonoia. Kai se teleytaia analysh, gnwrizete oti ta apotelesmata twn eklogwn se mia xwra prokyptoyn, symfwna me thn ekfrash ths boylhshs twn politwn ths. To idio egine kai sthn Albania.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sthn oysia qa einai h idia kybernhsh poy htan kai thn prohgoymenh fora. Ti sas kanei na eiste pio aisiodojos gia thn ellhnikh meionothta;

REPPAS: Emeis panta prepei na ergazomaste, synergazomenoi me tis kybernhseis twn geitonikwn xwrwn, gia na beltiwnoyme tis sxeseis mas. Exoyme ena poly kalo epipedo sxesewn. Pantote yparxei periqwrio beltiwshs. Qa ergastoyme se ayth thn kateyqynsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Otan o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths geitonikhs xwras mila gia Tsamoyria, einai kales oi sxeseis; Dhladh, mporei me ayto ton anqrwpo na milame;

REPPAS: Gnwrizoyme tis epishmes qeseis ths albanikhs kybernhshs. H albanikh kybernhsh, me ypeyqyno tropo, arketes fores, se diafores eykairies, exei katadikasei akraia ejtremistika fainomena, dynameis oi opoies droyn me tropo poy den ekfrazei th qesh kai thn politikh ths.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Akoysthkan polla kai diafora xqes, sthn Kentrikh Epitroph toy PASOK gia thn kybernhsh. Qelw na moy apanthsete se ayto to opoio eipan, oti h kybernhsh Shmith exei apomyzhsei to lao gia na gemisei tis tsepes deka anqrwpwn.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti stis eswterikes diadikasies enos kommatos, kaqenas poy symmetexei sto organo poy synedriazei, mporei na parei to logo kai na ekfrasei tis apoceis toy. An exei kati na kataggeilei, giati peri aytoy prokeitai -ayto einai kai to nohma ths erwthshs sas- kalo einai, peran ths politikhs kataggelias, na apeyqynetai kai stis armodies dikastikes arxes. Ayth einai h elaxisth eyqynh poy exei kapoios, an endiaferetai na lamcei h alhqeia. Gnwrizete poia einai h politikh poy exei akoloyqhsei h kybernhsh. Idiaitera me thn oikonomikh politikh poy akoloyqoyme ta teleytaia xronia, exoyme eynohsei thn anaptyjh ths xwras kai exoyme dhmioyrghsei synqhkes gia na zei kalytera o ellhnikos laos. Ayto to anagnwrizoyn oloi. Den nomizw, loipon, oti to epipedo zwhs, to opoio exei qeamatika beltiwqei ta teleytaia xronia, mporei na odhgei ton opoiondhpote se ayto to asthrikto symperasma oti h kybernhsh apomyza ton ellhniko lao. Symbainei to entelws antiqeto. H kybernhsh, me th sthrijh toy ellhnikoy laoy, exei katorqwsei na dhmioyrghsei synqhkes kaqhmerinhs zwhs sthn Ellada, poy einai poly kalyteres apo to prosfato kiolas parelqon. Allwste, toso to prohgoymeno programma oikonomikhs anaptyjhs, oso kai to neo, to legomeno G` K.P.S., mazi me ta alla eqnika programmata, exoyn ejasfalisei gia th xwra mas oles tis oikonomikes proypoqeseis poy einai aparaithtes gia na miloyme gi` ayth thn anaptyjh sto paron, alla kyriws sto mellon.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto den to jeroyn ta kommatika stelexh toy PASOK; Kai giati den apanthse o Prwqypoyrgos;

REPPAS: Apeyqyneste ston ekproswpo ths kybernhshs. An qelete na milhsete me ta kommatika stelexh, mporeite na parete synenteyjeis apo ayta, gia thn efhmerida poy ergazeste h gia ta alla hlektronika Mesa poy isws synergazeste kai na exete tis dikes toys apoceis. Giati den to kanete, an exete toso megalo endiaferon;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati, thn kybernhsh kathggeile kai ton Prwqypoyrgo.

REPPAS: Ton Prwqypoyrgo ton exei eklejei kai exei gnwmh gi` ayton o ellhnikos laos. To synolo twn organwn kai twn stelexwn toy Kinhmatos, gnwrizei, allwste -mias kai qelete na mpoyme se ayto to qema- oti h Kentrikh Epitroph, omofwnws, xwris mia arnhtikh chfo, xwris kan mia leykh chfo, apofasise na egkrinei thn prwtoboylia, thn eishghsh toy Proedroy toy Kinhmatos kai thn apofash toy E.G. gia epispeysh toy kommatikoy Synedrioy. Ayto deixnei, me ton kalytero tropo, oti yparxei anagnwrish, apodoxh kai sthrijh toy Proedroy kai twn kaqodhghtikwn organwn toy Kinhmatos apo ta kentrika stelexh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati den apanthse o Prwqypoyrgos ston kyrio ayton;

REPPAS: Giati eseis, poy endiafereste toso poly, den pairnete mia synenteyjh apo ena stelexos toy opoioy oi apoceis sas endiaferoyn toso poly;

KANELLOPOYLOS: Me aformh ayta poy eipate gia to epipedo zwhs toy ellhnikoy laoy kai thn poreia ths oikonomias, to Xrhmatisthrio antanakla thn poreia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, opws kata kairoys exei pei h kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Den exw kanena sxolio gia thn poreia toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Gnwrizete oti h aytonomia toy Xrhmatisthrioy den prokeitai na diataraxqei apo th dikh mas pleyra. Ayto to opoio emeis exoyme ypoxrewsh na kanoyme, einai na pairnoyme prwtoboylies se oikonomiko epipedo. Pisteyw oti h oikonomikh politikh poy akoloyqei h kybernhsh, me tis prowqoymenes diarqrwtikes allages, me dedomenh thn prospaqeia mas gia th dhmosionomikh staqerothta kai thn anaptyjh ths xwras me thn ajiopoihsh, idiws, twn porwn poy prokyptoyn apo to G` K.P.S., dhmioyrgoyn ena oikonomiko kai koinwniko periballon, poy einai to kalytero dynato gia th leitoyrgia allwn qesmwn, opws einai kai to Xrhmatisthrio. To oti to Xrhmatisthrio exei ayth thn poreia, ofeiletai se polloys logoys. Einai ena poly synqeto problhma. Kai pantws, emeis den qa kanoyme dhmosiws sxolia poy mporei na eklhfqoyn apo opoiondhpote ws apopeira parembashs sta ths leitoyrgias toy Xrhmatisthrioy.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Otan, omws, palaiotera eixame dhlwseis kai apo esas kai apo alla kybernhtika stelexh, ayto den htan tote parembash;

REPPAS: An qelete na milhsoyme gia thn poreia ths oikonomias, eyxaristws na milhsoyme. Ayto afora thn kybernhsh. An qelete na milhsoyme gia thn poreia toy Xrhmatisthrioy, sas parakalw na to apofygoyme. Sas symboyleyw na to apofygete kai eseis.

BITALHS: Exete thn aisqhsh kai eseis ws ekproswpos ths kybernhshs, alla kai o Prwqypoyrgos, oti mallon armenizei straba h kybernhsh, opws isxyrizontai kapoia koryfaia stelexh;

REPPAS: Qa sas kaloysa na dwsete th dynatothta se diafora stelexh na poyn tis apoceis toys sta fylla h ta hlektronika Mesa poy ergazeste, prokeimenoy etsi na exete, me kaqe anesh, me plhrh leptomereia kai safhneia, tis opoies apoceis gia ta diafora qemata.

BITALHS: Otan ena koryfaio stelexos@

REPPAS: Den prokeitai na sxoliasoyme apoceis stelexwn. Me kaleite na sxoliasw apoceis stelexwn; Zhtate, loipon, na periorisoyme to dikaiwma twn stelexwn na lene tis apoceis toys;

BITALHS: Den zhtw ayto. Rwtw, an lambanete ypoch sas parathrhseis apo koryfaioys ypoyrgoys, opws ayth xqes ths k. Papandreoy;

REPPAS: H pragmatikothta diamorfwnetai apo tis apofaseis twn kybernhtikwn, alla kai twn kommatikwn organwn. Asfalws, opoioi symmetexoyn sta kybernhtika kai kommatika organa einai aytoi poy kaqodhgoyn th xwra. Ola ayta, lambanontai ypoch, giati oi apoceis aytes einai poly xrhsimes. Einai to yliko to opoio, ajiopoioymeno, mas odhgei, wste na beltiwnoyme thn poreia mas. Kai ayto einai kati poy emeis epiqymoyme perissotero apo oloys.

KAPPOS: To teleytaio diasthma, 27 xronia meta to prajikophma, parathreitai ena dieyrynomeno xasma, anamesa sthn Ellada kai thn Kypro. Yparxoyn diamartyries sth Leykwsia gia ton tropo poy askeitai h ejwterikh politikh mas kai gia energeies se diaforoys dhmoys gia adelfopoihsh me toyrkikes poleis k.t.l. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

REPPAS: Se ayto exei dwsei apanthseis h kypriakh kybernhsh. O Proedros ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias exei labei qesh epi olwn aytwn twn qematwn. Oi syzhthseis poy ginontai, toso gia thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E., oso kai gia thn epilysh toy kypriakoy problhmatos, jekinoyn me prwtoboylia kai ths Elladas. Einai syzhthseis oi opoies exoyn, mexri twra, genika ena qetiko antiktypo gia thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia. To oti yparxoyn kata kairoys problhmata, asfalws einai kati poy oloi anagnwrizoyme. Prepei, omws, taytoxrona na poyme oti oi kybernhseis sthn Ellada kai thn Kypro, xeirizontai ypeyqyna ta megala ayta qemata, exontas ypoch toys ena sygkekrimeno eqniko kai politiko sxedio, efarmozontas mia politikh poy mas fernei pio konta stoys stoxoys poy exoyme qesei, xwris na epidiwkoyme th dhmioyrgia entypwsewn. Giati, den prokeitai sto efhmero na ypotajoyme ayto poy apotelei to meizon, to eqniko symferon. Gnwrizete poies einai oi qeseis ths kypriakhs kybernhshs gia ta qemata ayta, me tis opoies symfwnoyme apolyta.

KAPPOS: Na epanelqoyme sto Xrhmatisthrio. Exoyme kapoia pragmatika oikonomika megeqh, opws h ayjhsh toy plhqwrismoy poy plhsiazei pleon to 4%. Mporei, katopin aytwn, na apekdyetai h kybernhsh tis eyqynes ths kai na leei oti to Xrhmatisthrio einai enas paragontas ston opoio den epembainoyme emeis;

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, oson afora thn ejelijh toy plhqwrismoy, gnwrizete oti h ayjhsh ths timhs twn opwrokhpeytikwn -ta opoia prin apo 12 mhnes eixan poly xamhloterh timh- einai enas paragontas poy ephreazei to deikth timwn katanalwth. Apo ekei kai pera, qa deite oti yparxei mia analogh ejelijh, oson afora ton plhqwrismo, kai se alles xwres ths E.E. Ta stoixeia toy Ioynioy den exoyn gnwstopoihqei, mexri twra, gia oles tis xwres. Me bash ta stoixeia toy Maioy, qa deite oti h Ollandia poy fhmizetai gia th staqerothta, oson afora ton plhqwrismo, exei plhqwrismo poy kineitai sto 5,4% kai h Portogalia exei plhqwrismo poy kineitai sto 4,9%. Exoyme mia epidosh poy den einai h xeiroterh sthn Eyrwph. Asfalws, h epidosh ayth prepei na beltiwqei thn epomenh periodo. Pisteyoyme oti, pros to telos toy xronoy, qa eimaste konta stis probleceis poy exoyme kanei. Qa exoyme eystoxia kai ston tomea ayto. Kata ta alla, einai sygkyriakh ayth h ayjhsh ths timhs toy plhqwrismoy kai ofeiletai se sygkekrimenoys paragontes.

GARGALAKOS: Orismenoi parathrhtes aqroizoyn th dyspragia poy parathreitai stis agores kai thn entash twn apergiakwn kinhtopoihsewn kai katalogizoyn sthn kybernhsh mia aprajia. Exete kapoio sxolio;

REPPAS: Ayto den einai alhqes. Giati h kybernhsh, opws gnwrizete, syzhta poly shmantika qemata, ta kybernhtika organa synedriazoyn kai pairnoyn apofaseis kai emeis analambanoyme prwtoboylies. Den exoyme milhsei -kai anaferw ena paradeigma- gia thn prospaqeia poy kanoyme, oson afora thn idiwtikopoihsh ths Olympiakhs; Den eimaste se mia periodo poy qa ginoyn shmantikes, kaqoristikes syzhthseis gia to mellon toy Eqnikoy Aerometaforea; Ayto shmainei oti h kybernhsh den argei.

Deyteron, oson afora tis apergiakes kinhtopoihseis, den gnwrizete oti h hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Ergasias kai Koinwnikwn Asfalisewn, alla kai o ypoyrgos Ygeias, exoyn epafh me toys apergoyntes sto IKA kai syzhtoyn mazi toys. Yparxei mia diastash apocewn gia ena qema to opoio, an oi apergoyntes giatroi to entopizoyn sthn apaithsh toys na nomimopoihqoyn, einai dyskolo na yperboyme, epeidh yparxei syntagmatikos periorismos. Kata ta alla, h kinhtopoihsh ayth jekinhse me monh thn enoxlhsh kapoiwn forewn apo thn proqesh ths kybernhshs na dhmioyrghsei ena neo nomiko plaisio sthn prwtobaqmia periqalch. Xwris na exei katastrwqei ayto to plaisio se sygkekrimenes diatajeis, se kapoio nomosxedio ekdhlwqhke antidrash kai apergiakh kinhtopoihsh.

Epishs, epi allwn qematwn poy aforoyn to G` K.P.S. ayth thn periodo eimaste kat` ejoxhn se mia krisimh stigmh, afoy exei oloklhrwqei h diadikasia gia th sygkrothsh twn Epitropwn Parakoloyqhshs. Exoyme aporrofhsh twn porwn kai ayto shmainei oti eimaste se drasthriothta. Den nomizw, loipon, oti einai dikaiologhmenoi aytoi oi isxyrismoi. Antilambanontai oloi giati diatypwnontai. Kai bebaia, den exoyn sxesh me thn alhqeia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxei sto programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy na kanei kapoies allages, entos twn hmerwn, sthn kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Den tiqetai tetoio qema.

KAPPOS: Mias kai egine logos gia thn eikona ths kybernhshs, alla kai gia qemata ygeias, qa hqela na sas rwthsw, an aisqanetai eyqynh h kybernhsh gia to gegonos oti peqainei enas neos anqrwpos se mia apo tis megalyteres poleis ths Elladas, epeidh sto nosokomeio ayths ths megalhs polhs den yparxei ajonikos tomografos;

REPPAS: Asfalws, otan yparxoyn tetoia peristatika, prepei na ta antimetwpizoyme me megalh eyqynh kai ayjhmeno endiaferon. Apo thn allh, omws, h Ellada den mporei na kathgorhqei oti den exei katallhlh nosokomeiakh ypodomh. Toylaxiston, se epipedo ejoplismoy, prepei na sas pw oti eimaste poly panw apo to meso oro ths E.E. Oi ajonikoi tomografoi poy yparxoyn sthn Ellada -epeidh anafereste se ena sygkekrimeno mhxanhma- einai, kat` analogia toy plhqysmoy mas, toso polloi, oso se liges alles xwres toy kosmoy. Ayto prepei na to gnwrizete. Apo ekei kai pera, einai polloi oi paragontes poy ephreazoyn, prokeimenoy na exoyme mia kalh, mia qetikh katalhjh sthn antimetwpish enos problhmatos poy afora thn ygeia enos polith. Gia to sygkekrimeno peristatiko dienergeitai EDE, gia na diapistwqei ean yparxoyn eyqynes kai na apodoqoyn.

GARGALAKOS: Paroti exete anakoinwsei to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, yparxei endexomeno na synanthqei o k. Shmiths me ton k. Pagkalo;

REPPAS: Sas anakoinwsa to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo, peran twn oswn sas anakoinwsa.

Sas eyxaristw.

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