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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 23 Noembrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Synedriase, shmera, h Kybernhtikh Epitroph sthn opoia, me bash eishghsh ths armodias ypoyrgoy Basws Papandreoy, syzhthqhkan qemata poy aforoyn thn oikonomikh leitoyrgia twn kommatwn kai idiaiterws th xrhmatodothsh toys kata thn proeklogikh periodo, opws epishs kai ton elegxo twn dapanwn twn kommatwn kai twn ypochfiwn boyleytwn.

Monimos stoxos mas einai h peraiterw anabaqmish ths diafaneias sto dhmosio bio kai h enisxysh ths ajiopistias, oson afora th leitoyrgia toy politikoy systhmatos ths xwras.

Shmera, sto plaisio ayths ths politikhs asxolhqhkame idiaiterws me qemata poy aforoyn, epanalambanw, ta oikonomika twn kommatwn. Eixame ejaggeilei oti peri ta telh Noembrioy-arxes Dekembrioy h kybernhsh qa analambane sxetikh prwtoboylia. Eimaste se ayth thn politikh stigmh. Gnwrizete oti gia prwth fora tetoia qemata teqhkan me ryqmiseis toy n. 2429/1996. Me metagenesteres nomoqetikes ryqmiseis, to 2000 sygkekrimena, alla kai me seira apofasewn sto plaisio symfwniwn ths Diakommatikhs Epitrophs poy leitoyrghse, eite enocei eyrweklogwn, eite eqnikwn eklogwn, exoyme dhmioyrghsei ena plaisio to opoio metajy twn allwn anaferetai kai se qemata leitoyrgias twn kommatwn sxetika me ta oikonomika toys. Ayto to plaisio xreiazetai symplhrwsh, xreiazetai beltiwsh, poly perissotero meta thn empeiria poy apokthsame stis prosfates ekloges.

Me bash, loipon, thn empeiria poy apokthsame, alla kai to analogo plaisio poy isxyei stis alles xwres ths Eyrwphs, h Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn proxwrhse sth diatypwsh enos sxedioy epi toy opoioy egine shmera h syzhthsh.

Oson afora th xrhmatodothsh twn kommatwn, ayth shmera einai dhmosia kai idiwtikh. Paramenoyme se ayto to metro. Ayto to opoio tiqetai ws neo stoixeio einai oti h xrhmatodothsh epitrepetai mono apo fysika proswpa, oxi apo nomika proswpa.

Epishs, syzhteitai ena sygkekrimeno anwtato orio, to opoio yparxei kai shmera, alla syzhteitai h allagh toy orioy aytoy. Epishs syzhteitai, h peran enos orismenoy posoy xrhmatodothsh na odhgei sthn ypoxrewtikh gnwstopoihsh toy onomatos toy xrhmatodoth. Olh h diadikasia xrhmatodothshs h dapanhs qa ginetai mesw trapezikoy logariasmoy poy qa einai gnwstos, prokeimenoy etsi na epitygxanetai o apolytos elegxos eisrown kai ekrown apo to logariasmo ayto.

Oson afora th diafhmish twn kommatwn, idiaiterws sto skelos ekeino poy sxetizetai me th xrhsh hlektronikwn MME, h sxetikh protash anaferetai sthn armodiothta poy prepei na apokthsei to kratos, wste ayto apo to synolo twn dapanwn poy problepei ston proypologismo gia ta politika kommata, na krata kai na diaxeirizetai ta posa ekeina, ta opoia einai aparaithta, prokeimenoy na kalyfqoyn dapanes gia thn epi isois orois probolh twn kommatwn apo ta hlektronika MME.

Oson afora toys ypochfioys tiqentai, epishs, oria. Einai kai se ayth thn periptwsh ypoxrewtikh h gnwstopoihsh twn onomatwn twn xrhmatodotwn, poy einai pantote, apokleistika kai mono, fysika proswpa. Yparxei, epishs, mia peraiterw ryqmish gia thn probolh twn ypochfiwn apo ta MME. Prepei na sas qymisw oti yparxoyn ryqmiseis, oi opoies isxyoyn kai twra. Apagoreyetai, dhladh kai me to isxyon kaqestws, h proswpikh probolh twn ypochfiwn me diafhmistika mhnymata mesw ths thleorashs. Ayto synexizei na isxyei. Apagoreyetai se ypochfioys na dieyqynoyn ekpompes se hlektronika MME. Kai ayto ejakoloyqei na isxyei. Proxwroyme, omws, se peraiterw periorismoys, oson afora thn pyknothta me thn opoia symmetexoyn se thleoptikes kai radiofwnikes ekpompes oi ypochfioi twn diaforwn kommatwn. H syzhthsh afora, loipon, ton ariqmo twn emfanisewn, twn symmetoxwn toys se diafora programmata. Ola ayta, bebaiws, qa prepei na synodeyontai me ena isxyro kai apotelesmatiko systhma elegxoy. Qesh mas einai oti gia ta oikonomika twn kommatwn prepei na epilambanetai ena organo ayjhmenhs ajiopistias kai apotelesmatikothtas. Qewroyme oti ayto to organo den mporei na leitoyrgei entos toy plaisioy ths Boylhs. Prepei na einai ena organo ektos Boylhs se antiqesh me o,ti synebaine mexri twra, sto opoio mporei na symmetexoyn kai alloi foreis ths Politeias mas, dikastikoi leitoyrgoi, empeirognwmones, orkwtoi logistes kai bebaiws ekproswpoi twn kommatwn. Epishs, antiqeta me th Diakommatikh Epitroph, h opoia systaqhke kai leitoyrghse gia prwth fora stis prosfates ekloges, toso se eqniko, oso kai se perifereiako epipedo, proteinetai h dhmioyrgia epitropwn elegxoy se kaqe nomo, prokeimenoy o elegxos na einai pio apotelesmatikos. Oi epitropes aytes na mh leitoyrgoyn mono kata thn proeklogikh periodo, alla symfwna me thn protash ths Ypoyrgoy, mporei na sygkrotoyntai eji mhnes meta tis ekloges kai na leitoyrgoyn mexri th dienergeia twn epomenwn eklogwn.

Oson afora, telos, tis kyrwseis. H qesh mas einai oti oi kyrwseis aytes prepei na einai aysthres kai se aytes, asfalws, prepei na perilambanetai kai to metro ths ekptwshs apo to boyleytiko ajiwma gia orismenoy eidoys parabaseis ths nomoqesias.

Ayto einai to plaisio poy syzhthsame. Anaferqhka stoys ajones, sto antikeimeno poy prospaqoyme na ryqmisoyme, ta organa elegxoy kai tis epiptwseis analoga me ta apotelesmata poy prokyptoyn apo ton elegxo ayto. H syzhthsh htan makra. Oi apoceis poy diatypwsan oi synadelfoi htan pragmatika para poly xrhsimes. Gnwrizete, allwste, oti to qema ayto prosferetai gia mia genikoterh politikh syzhthsh. Kai ayto egine shmera.

Gia thn plhrothta ths enhmerwshs sas prepei na sas pw oti h ka Papandreoy sto telos, me bash thn apofash poy phre to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio se prosfath synedriash toy kai enocei ths kataqeshs toy neoy nomosxedioy gia qemata metanasteytikhs politikhs, epanhlqe sto qema, diatypwse tis qeseis toy ypoyrgeioy opws aytes exoyn diamorfwqei me thn yioqethsh twn apocewn kai twn protasewn poy diatypwqhkan sthn koinh synedriash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy kai ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs.

Analytikes dhlwseis qa ginoyn apo thn armodia ypoyrgo ka Papandreoy, h opoia paraxwrei sxetikh synenteyjh se synadelfoys sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Eipate oti apo ena plafon kai panw qa prepei na gnwstopoieitai o xrhmatodoths me bash to anwtero orio.. Orisate to plafon;

REPPAS: Diatypwqhkan polles protaseis kai akoysthkan polles idees. Oson afora ta kommata, eipwqhke oti to anwtero orio epitrepomenhs xrhmatodothshs mporei na einai ta pente ekatommyria. H xrhmatodothsh poy afora poso enos ekatommyrioy kai anw, qa prepei na ginetai gnwsth kai me to fysiko proswpo poy xrhmatodotei. Gia toys ypochfioys, to anwtato orio mporei na einai to ena ekatommyrio draxmes kai gia posa poy jepernoyn tis 100.000 draxmes qa prepei na ginontai gnwsta kai ta onomata twn xrhmatodotwn. Epanalambanw, omws, oti ta oria ayta einai endeiktika. Gi` ayto den mphka se leptomereies. Den prokeitai, opws antilambaneste, gia megalo politiko zhthma, oyte qa prokycei politikh antiparaqesh. Asfalws, qa prepei na yparxei mia eklogikeysh -ayth einai mia koinh qesh poy diatypwqhke apo oloys- oson afora tis dapanes poy einai logiko na ginontai sto plaisio toy proeklogikoy agwna, me dedomenes tis synqhkes poy epikratoyn sth xwra mas. Na yparxei mia eklogikeysh, prokeimenoy na mhn exoyme dapanes, oi opoies anaferontai se diafores apofaseis h nomoys kai sthn prajh katantoyn na einai eikonikes. Prepei, loipon, na antimetwpisoyme ayta ta qemata. H kybernhsh einai diateqeimenh na anoijei ayto ton kyklo dialogoy me ekproswpoys twn allwn kommatwn, na akoysei tis dikes toys protaseis, wste se ena xroniko diasthma mhnwn, na mporesoyme na odhghqoyme, poly prin apo tis epomenes ekloges, sth qespish enos sygkekrimenoy plaisioy.

ANTYPAS: Pote jekina o dialogos;

REPPAS: Thn epomenh periodo.

BITALHS: Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs, sxetika me thn apofash toy Dikasthrioy Anqrwpinwn Dikaiwmatwn, gia to qema ths perioysias toy tews.

REPPAS: Exei ekdwsei sxetikh anakoinwsh to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, h opoia einai ypoch sas. Ayto to opoio mporw na pw egw einai oti h apofash toy dikasthrioy exei odhghsei se politikh htta ton Kwnstantino Glijmpoyrgk -ayto poy lew einai poly safes- giati toy sterhse to dikaiwma na ferei titlo eygeneias. Gnwrizete oti to qema poy syzhteitai twra sto dikasthrio, den afora tipota allo, para mia diafora, oson afora thn perioysia poy diekdikei apo to ellhniko Dhmosio. Ara, loipon, exei perioristei ayth h diafora sto oikonomiko antikeimeno kai mono. Kaqenas mporei na bgalei ta symperasmata toy kai na krinei, otan enas idiwths diekdikei perioysia apo to ellhniko Dhmosio. Pisteyw, loipon, oti, oson afora to politiko epipedo, h ejelijh ayth sto dikasthrio einai mia shmantikh htta gia ton Kwnstantino. Oson afora tis oikonomikes diafores, qa katablhqei kaqe prospaqeia, prokeimenoy na meiwqoyn oi epiptwseis apo tis synepeies ayths ths apofashs.

GEROPOYLOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean o Prwqypoyrgos ekane kapoia topoqethsh gia tis politikes ejelijeis kai to politiko klima; Kai, epishs, poios einai o xronikos orizontas dialogoy poy qa kanete me ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs.

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, den qa qesoyme emeis, apo twra, xronikh proqesmia. O xronos poy qa apaithqei, asfalws qa einai makrys. Prepei na doqei anesh xronoy gia mia tetoia syzhthsh. O xronos qa prosdioristei se synennohsh kai me ta alla kommata, analogws ths proodoy poy kaqe fora epitygxanetai. Sth shmerinh synedriash den teqhke opoiodhpote allo qema. O Prwqypoyrgos, sthn eisagwgikh omilia toy, anaferqhke sthn prosfath neroponth, epishmainontas thn ypoxrewsh poy exoyn oi yphresies kai oi organismoi toy Dhmosioy na droyn amesws, prokeimenoy na antimetwpizontai ta problhmata se tetoies ektaktes katastaseis. Na enhmerwnetai h koinh gnwmh, na apokaqistantai oi blabes kai genikws, na yparxei mia tetoia kinhsh twn armodiwn yphresiwn poy na peiqei toys polites oti leitoyrgoyn kai einai apotelesmatikes.

KWNSTANTOPOYLOS: Alhqeyei oti o Prwqypoyrgos prosedwse sthn chfish toy nomosxedioy gia ta ergasiaka, xarakthra chfoy empistosynhs sthn kybernhsh.

REPPAS: Den eystaqei kati tetoio. To nomosxedio ayto einai poly shmantiko, alla einai ena apo ta nomosxedia poy exei eishghqei h kybernhsh kai prokeitai na syzhthsei kai na chfisei h Boylh. H kybernhsh qewrei pws einai shmantika kai alla nomosxedia. Oi boyleytes exoyn th dynatothta na chfizoyn kata krish. Antilambaneste pws, epeidh gia to sygkekrimeno nomosxedio exei ginei pollh syzhthsh, yparxei ayth h epikoinwniakh fortish, poy exei parei mia diastash -qa moy epitrecete na pw- yperbolikh kai prokaleitai meizon endiaferon. Pisteyw, omws, oti, opws kai se alles periptwseis, etsi kai sth sygkekrimenh, to sxetiko nomosxedio qa syzhthqei kai qa chfistei, wste na ginei nomos toy kratoys.

KOYRTAKHS: Kata poso alhqeyei h plhroforia oti yphrje, pro hmerwn, synanthsh toy k. Qemelh me ton k. Aggeloy, antikeimeno ths opoias htan h ypochfiothta ths kas Aggelopoyloy sto Dhmo ths Aqhnas.

REPPAS: Ayto ekfeygei ths drasthriothtas ths kybernhshs. Den gnwrizw poies synanthseis ginontai. Ayto poy lete, den to briskw na einai piqano. Den mporw na apokleisw tipota, giati den gnwrizw. Alla, qa moy epitrecete na pw, oti to PASOK exei sygkekrimenes diadikasies, basei twn opoiwn syzhta ayta ta qemata kai pairnei apofaseis. Etsi ginetai pantote. Qewrw, loipon, pws kati tetoio den antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia. Qa moy epitrecete na epanalabw pws ayto ekfeygei ths drasthriothtas ths kybernhshs, gi` ayto den qelw na epektaqw perissotero se ayto to qema.

GIANNISHS: Eipate, prohgoymenws, oti h syzhthsh htan makra, oi apoceis poly xrhsimes kai oti to qema prosferetai gia genikoterh politikh syzhthsh. Ti genikoterh politikh syzhthsh;

REPPAS: Gia ton tropo leitoyrgias toy politikoy systhmatos, tis prwtoboylies poy prepei na analhfqoyn, wste na apokatastaqei mia pio ajiopisth sxesh twn politikwn kommatwn me toys polites, th diafanesterh, oso ginetai, leitoyrgia twn kommatwn sto oikonomiko epipedo, tis sxeseis toy politikoy systhmatos me ta MME h idiwtikoys foreis, ton tropo me ton opoio ta kommata synagwnizontai metajy toys me bash kapoioys sygkekrimenoys kanones, prokeimenoy na ephreasoyn toys polites. Ayta einai qemata ta opoia, kat` epanalhch, exoyn syzhthqei. Logiko einai, me aformh th sxetikh eishghsh, na proklhqei enas analogos dialogos sth shmerinh synedriash.

TSAPAKHS: Alhqeyoyn oi plhrofories oti h amerikanikh pleyra askei piesh pros th xwra mas kai zhta apo thn kybernhsh na qespisei aysthro antitromokratiko nomo poy qa problepei thn analhch apo amerikanikes mystikes yphresies twn ereynwn gia thn 17N;

REPPAS: Ligoys mhnes prin, ypogracame ena prwtokollo synergasias. Oi dyo xwres exoyn brei koinh glwssa, exoyn syntonisei tis prospaqeies toys, prokeimenoy na epityxoyme ayto to skopo: Thn ejaleich, dhladh, twn tromokratikwn ekdhlwsewn sthn patrida mas. Den tiqetai qema piesewn. Allwste, enocei ths diorganwshs twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn sthn Ellada, h epikoinwnia kai synergasia kai me paragontes twn HPA, alla kai me empeirognwmones allwn xwrwn poy gnwrizoyn to antikeimeno ayto, einai synexhs. Ayto poy, epishs, exoyme analabei kai exoyme eyqynh na feroyme se peras, einai na proxwrhsoyme se orismenes allages, oson afora thn isxyoysa dikonomia gia thn antimetwpish tetoiwn qematwn. Einai qema poy apasxolei epitroph, ths opoias to porisma qa exoyme thn epomenh periodo, efoson oloklhrwqoyn oi ergasies ths. Kata ta alla, sta qemata ayta yparxei mia synergasia kai me tis armodies yphresies twn HPA kai ara, den tiqetai qema diatypwshs paraponwn h aithmatwn, peran toy plaisioy ayths ths synergasias. H xwra mas exei Syntagma, exei nomoys, exei armodia organa poy asxoloyntai me ayto to antikeimeno. Den mporei na ta ypokatasthsei kaneis sto rolo toys.

TSAPAKHS: Kapoia proeidopoihsh, isws;

REPPAS: Den yparxei kamia proeidopoihsh. Yparxoyn, dystyxws, dhmosieymata diaforwn efhmeridwn -kai amerikanikwn- ta opoia einai arnhtika kai gi` ayto krinoyme oti einai aparadekta kai ta apodokimazoyme. Kai ayto, epeidh me aformh orismena tromokratika xtyphmata sthn Ellada, dinoyn mia eikona poy thn adikei, mia eikona genikws "tromokratokratoymenhs" Elladas, enw ayto gnwrizete oti den isxyei sthn prajh. H Ellada einai mia xwra asfalhs, toylaxiston sto idio epipedo, gia na mhn pw perissotero asfalhs, me tis HPA kai tis alles xwres ths Eyrwphs. Ara, oi epiqeseis aytes apo MME einai apolytws adikaiologhtes. Profanws, oi epiqeseis aytes kryboyn kapoies skopimothtes, tis opoies mporeite ki eseis na sxoliasete.

Sas eyxaristw.

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