Greek Government Press Briefing, 00-10-12

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 12 Oktwbrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRG

O TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

O Prwqypoyrgos anaxwrei to meshmeri, opws gnwrizete, gia th Gallia, prokeimenoy na labei meros sthn Atyph Synodo Koryfhs ths E.E.

Xqes to apogeyma eixe seira synanthsewn gia qemata poy aforoyn thn organwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn toy 2004. Kai shmera to prwi eixe th dynatothta, prin thn anaxwrhsh toy gia th Gallia, na dexqei ton ypoyrgo Politismoy Q. Pagkalo. Ekanan mia anaskophsh ths prospaqeias poy kataballei h xwra mas, twn apotelesmatwn poy mexri twra exoyme petyxei. Epibebaiwqhke oti, symfwna me ta osa exoyme apofasisei, synexizoyme thn prospaqeia ayth.

Prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas, na apanthsw se mia grapth erwthsh poy exei diatypwqei apo thn efhmerida ``Adesmeytos Typos'', poy ekdidei o k. Mhtshs kai afora thn proslhch ekpaideytikwn. H erwthsh exei ws ejhs: ``Tis teleytaies hmeres, sthn efhmerida Adesmeytos Typos, se prwtoselido reportaz, emfanizetai o ypoyrgos Paideias k. Eyqymioy na exei proxwrhsei se paranomoys h paratypoys diorismoys ekpaideytikwn, qema gia to opoio oi qigomenoi ekpaideytikoi exoyn katafygei sth Dikaiosynh. To qema, opws piqanon gnwrizete efqase kai sth Boylh me erwthsh poy kateqese o ypeyqynos tomea ths N.D, boyleyths A@ Peiraia k. Kalos, enw o G.G. ths OLME, me dhlwseis toy sthn efhmerida, poy dhmosieyontai sto shmerino fyllo (12.10), epirriptei tis eyqynes gia to sobaro ayto symban sthn politikh hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Paideias kai Qrhskeymatwn. Pws exei akribws to qema;''.

Prepei na sas pw oti oi proslhceis ekpaideytikwn gia th xronia ayth ginontai kata ena tmhma apo thn epethrida -to exoyme pei ayto, einai h qesh poy apo thn arxh eixame ejaggeilei- kai kata ena allo tmhma apo ton katalogo twn epityxontwn toy ASEP, sto diagwnismo toy 1998. O katalogos o opoios diamorfwqhke meta apo to diagwnismo poy dienhrghse to ASEP to 1998, den energopoihqhke to 1999. O diagwnismos o opoios egine fetos afora proslhceis poy qa ginoyn to epomeno etos. Gia th fetinh xronia, loipon, oi proslhceis ginontai apo thn epethrida afenos kai afeteroy apo ton katalogo epityxontwn toy 1998.

H ypoqesh afora thn proslhch sygkekrimenoy ariqmoy Koinwniologwn. Prepei na sas pw oti o nomos epitrepei, se orismenes periptwseis, na proslambanontai koinwniologoi, akoma ki an den exoyn to paidagwgiko ptyxio ths SELETE. Sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh egine to ejhs: Afoy ejantlhqhke o ariqmos twn koinwniologwn apo thn epethrida, proslhfqhkan epiprosqetws oktw koinwniologoi xwris na exoyn ayto to paidagwgiko ptyxio ths SELETE. O basikos, nomos dinei ayth th dynatothta kai ayto einai to prwto shmeio poy epishmainoyme. Deyteron, oi sygkekrimenoi koinwniologoi, oi opoioi proslhfqhkan xwris na exoyn to paidagwgiko ptyxio ths SELETE, proslhfqhkan afoy ejantlhqhke o ariqmos twn koinwniologwn poy eixan to paidagwgiko ptyxio. Kai triton, sto diagwnismo poy ekane to ASEP to 1998, ston katalogo twn epityxontwn, symperilambanontan kai oi oktw koinwniologoi gia toys opoioys dhmioyrghqhke twra ayto to qema. Dhladh, apo tote eixan entaxqei se ena katalogo pros diorismo. Ayth akribws einai h apanthsh mas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

ARGYROS: Grafontai diafora senaria peri paraithsews stelexwn toy 2004, apo thn ka Aggelopoyloy mexri diafora alla stelexh. Yparxei qema paraithshs stelexwn;

REPPAS: Na rwthsete ta stelexh. Exw apanthsei kat` epanalhch. Emeis exoyme epilejei ena orismeno montelo organwshs twn dynamewn mas, prokeimenoy na proetoimastoyme gia thn Olympiada. Synexizoyme me ayto to montelo.

ARGYROS: Exei protaqei ston k. Abramopoylo na analabei qesh epikefalhs..;

REPPAS: Den exei kamia sxesh me thn alhqeia. Giati, omws, otidhpote grafetai prepei na to syzhtoyme edw; Giati den kanete mia diastayrwsh prin qesete tetoies erwthseis; Den nomizw oti einai swsto otidhpote grafetai h legetai aytomata na apotelei antikeimeno syzhthshs.

KAPPOS: Toylaxiston 200 kratoymenoi allodapoi, ston Korydallo kai sth Genikh Asfaleia, exoyn proxwrhsei se apergia peinas gia tis aqlies synqhkes krathshs. Yparxoyn kataggelies oti enas epishs megalos ariqmos allodapwn kratoymenwn, para to gegonos oti exoyn ektisei tis poines toys ejakoloyqoyn na kratoyntai. Ti exei na pei h kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sta armodia ypoyrgeia.

KAPPOS: Nomizw oti einai kati poy afora genikotera thn kybernhsh.

REPPAS: Asfalws! Na apeyqynqeite, omws, sta armodia ypoyrgeia gia na exete leptomerh stoixeia.

KAPPOS: H diabiwsh 200 anqrwpwn@.

REPPAS: Symfwnoyme apolyta. H diabiwsh twn kratoymenwn apotelei qema, to opoio den mporei na einai -kai bebaiws, den einai- ektos toy endiaferontos ths kybernhshs. Einai asfalws shmantiko qema. Kai epeidh sas endiaferei toso poly , na apeyqynqeite sta armodia ypoyrgeia, stis armodies yphresies gia na exete sth diaqesh sas leptomerh stoixeia. Aporw pws den to kanate mexri twra, pws den apeyqynqhkate akomh sta armodia ypoyrgeia;

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Foyras leei gia ton k. Salele, ``egw den exw kamia eyqynh, ton brhka''. O k. Flwridhs, epishs, ekane dhlwsh xqes kai eipe oti den ferei kamia eyqynh gia o,ti ekane o k. Saleles. Poios topoqethse ton k. Salele;

REPPAS: Apanthsame xqes se polles sxetikes erwthseis kai oi apanthseis poy dwsame kalycan oles tis ptyxes toy sygkekrimenoy qematos. Den exoyme na prosqesoyme tipota allo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den eixe milhsei oyte o prwhn ypoyrgos Aqlhtismoy, oyte o nyn, xqes, otan sas rwthsame. O enas leei ``ton brhka'', o allos leei ``den jerw''.

REPPAS: Poio neo stoixeio proekyce apo tis dhlwseis aytes, wste na janasyzhthsoyme to qema;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mporeite na moy peite poios ton topoqethse;

REPPAS: Mporeite na moy peite poio neo stoixeio exei prokycei, prokeimenoy na proklhqei mia nea syzhthsh, enas neos gyros erwthsewn; Eipa oti h kybernhsh kriqhke apo to lao stis prosfates ekloges. H kybernhsh exei sygkekrimenh domh, sygkekrimena stelexh eixan antistoixes armodiothtes. Gnwrizete pws eixe stelexwqei to kratos stis diafores yphresies toy. Apo kei kai pera, eimaste se mia allh periodo. Gia thn periodo ayth, th doyleia mas kai ta pepragmena mas, qa erqei h wra na kriqoyme apo ton ellhniko lao.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw rwtw, poios ton topoqethse;

REPPAS: Dwsame apanthseis se ola ayta ta qemata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pote dwsate se ayto;

REPPAS: Edwsa apanthseis, xqes, gi ola ta qemata. Qa apanthsoyme poios topoqethse ton k. Salele, prin apo kapoia xronia; Ayto rwtate; Asfalws, oi topoqethseis ginontai me mia orismenh diadikasia, sthn opoia einai symfwnoi oi, kata periptwsh, armodioi ypoyrgoi. Apo kei kai pera, sas eipa oti to kybernhtiko sxhma, oi kratikoi ajiwmatoyxoi kriqhkan stis prosfates ekloges. O kaqenas ekane o,ti eprepe na kanei, kata th dikh toy apoch, prokeimenoy na symbalei sthn eklogikh epityxia toy PASOK. Kai ayth h eklogikh epityxia hrqe. Qa kriqoyme pali, loipon, thn katallhlh stigmh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gi o,ti egine pio prin, dhladh, den analambanete tis eyqynes; Den hsastan tote kybernhsh; Den htan kybernhsh Shmith;

REPPAS: Polla xronia eimaste kybernhsh kai qa eimaste akomh gia polla. Me thn entolh toy ellhnikoy laoy eimaste.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ta sbhnete ola;

REPPAS: Den sbhnoyme tipota, opws den ta sbhnei kai o ellhnikos laos. Emeis den eimaste Kaisares. Gnwrizete poly kala oti oi politikoi eklegontai me mystikh chfo toy laoy. Exoyn sygkekrimenh entolh kai qhteia xronika prosdiorismenh. O ellhnikos laos einai kyriarxos kai aytos exei to logo na krinei kaqe energeia mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai alhqeia oti ton topoqethse proswpika o k. Shmiths;

REPPAS: Antilambanomai oti telika qelete na syzhtoyme ola ayta ta qemata, me enan tetoio tropo, wste na katalhgoyme sto proswpo toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Erwthsh kanw.

REPPAS: Nomizw oti ayth h proseggish den einai aplws lanqasmenh, alla ginetai me apolyth skopimothta, h opoia einai profanhs. Ti sxesh exei o Prwqypoyrgos;

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Synadinos synanthqhke xqes to brady me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Poio htan to antikeimeno ths synanthshs;

REPPAS: H syzhthsh aforoyse thn proetoimasia ths xwras mas gia thn Olympiada toy 2004. Poio allo mporei na htan to antikeimeno; Oi sygkoinwnies, h aktoploia;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ypebale paraithsh; Giati den efyge apo thn idia porta poy efygan oi alloi dyo. Gi ayto to lew.

REPPAS: Den ypebale kamia paraithsh. Synexizei thn prospaqeia toy. Kai lypoymai giati kaqe fora dhmioyrgeitai ena ``qriler'' otan o Prwqypoyrgos exei kapoies synanthseis. Nomizw oti den einai swstos aytos o tropos proseggishs twn qematwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dioti efyge apo pisw! Egw ta lew; Htan oloi oi synadelfoi ekei.

REPPAS: Prokyptei apo poyqena oti kaqe fora poy ginetai mia synanthsh, ena endexomeno kai malista to pio piqano, einai na prokycei paraithsh; Ayto lete oysiastika. Kaqe fora poy ginetai mia synanthsh, rwtate ean prokeitai na paraithqei kapoios !

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ton teleytaio kairo ginontai kapoies apelaseis kyriws Koyrdwn. Yparxei kapoio problhma me toys Koyrdoys;

REPPAS: Den yparxei kanena problhma. Gnwrizete poly kala oti oi armodies yphresies askoyn tis armodiothtes toys kai energoyn me bash ta stoixeia poy exoyn sth diaqesh toys s` aytes tis periptwseis. Den yparxei kanena eidiko problhma.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto poy kykloforei, oti o k. Tzem edwse kapoia lista ston k. Papandreoy kai zhthse na toys apelasei apo thn Ellada, einai alhqeia;

REPPAS: De dexomaste tetoies listes, oyte apo ton k. Tzem, oyte apo opoiondhpote jeno paragonta, opoia idiothta ki an exei. Exoyme aytonomia kai askoyme politikh me gnwmona to symferon ths xwras kai toy koinwnikoy synoloy, prokeimenoy na yparxei asfaleia sth xwra. Yparxoyn kanones gia to pws eiserxetai kai diabiei kapoios sthn Ellada.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati, kata tyxh, oi apelaseis arxisan meta thn epistrofh toy k. Papandreoy;

REPPAS: Ayth einai dikh sas ekdoxh.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Gnwrizete an h Organwtikh Epitroph toy 2004 einai se qesh meta th synedriash ths diypoyrgikhs, poy qa ginei thn erxomenh Deytera h en pash periptwsei ws to telos toy Oktwbrh, na anakoinwsei th symfwnia gia ta radiothleoptika dikaiwmata;

REPPAS: Na milhsw ek meroys ths Organwtikhs Epitrophs; Den exei yphresies h Organwtikh Epitroph;

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Rwtw an h kybernhsh gnwrizei se poio stadio brisketai ayto to qema.

REPPAS: Einai apokleistikh armodiothta ths Organwtikhs Epitrophs. Den exei sxesh h kybernhsh me ayto.

I.KAMPOYRAKHS: Mhpws o k. Synadinos enhmerwse, xqes, ton Prwqypoyrgo gi ayto to qema;

REPPAS: Syzhthsan gia ola ta qemata poy aforoyn thn proetoimasia ths xwras mas gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes, ypo to fws ths empeirias poy apokomise apo toys Olympiakoys Agwnes sto Sidnei.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Yparxei endexomeno eleyshs toy k. Samarank sthn Aqhna, prin apo to Noembrio;

REPPAS: Den exei programmatistei synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo. An omws, o k. Samarank erqei sthn Ellada, synhqizetai se aytes tis periptwseis na ginetai synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo, to gnwrizete kai apo to parelqon.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Me ton k. Rogk qa synanthqei, prin apo thn programmatismenh to Noembrio;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw na exei programmatisqei opoiadhpote tetoia episkech h synanthsh.

KAPPOS: Exei arxisei na energopoieitai apo tis se oktw shmeia symfwnies hssonos shmasias poy ypegrace o k. Papandreoy me ton k. Tzem estw ki an den exoyn, kat arxhn kyrwqei apo th Boylh, ayto to kommati poy afora to ypotiqemeno antitromokratiko meros;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala -to eipate allwste- oti den exoyn kyrwqei apo thn ellhnikh Boylh ta keimena ayta. H efarmogh twn diatajewn twn keimenwn aytwn qa ginei amesws meta. Den exei kamia sxesh h drasthriothta twn armodiwn yphresiwn me ayto poy eseis yponoeite.

KAPPOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw an exei kapoio sxolio h kybernhsh gia tis dhlwseis Koskwta, peri mellontikhs epixeirhmatikhs drashs. Kai epishs, epeidh parathreitai kati periergo se sxesh me toys anqrwpoys poy ton periballoyn to diasthma poy einai ektos fylakhs, aytes tis dyo meres. Kai ennow oti aytos o anqrwpos periballetai apo anqrwpoys toy styl Lymperh, gnwstoy gia ton rolo toy sto Polytexneio. Mhpws exete na kanete kapoio sxolio kai gi ayto;

REPPAS: Ayto einai qema poy afora th Dikaiosynh. H kybernhsh ti sxolio qelete na kanei, wste na sas ikanopoiei; Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio. O k. Koskwtas anhkei sth dikaiodosia twn organwn ths Dikaiosynhs.

FILHS: Poioi einai oi stoxoi ths ellhnikhs Kybernhshs sthn Atyph Synodo poy ginetai ayrio kai meqayrio sto Mpiaritz.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti ekei qa syzhthqoyn qemata ths Diakybernhtikhs, prokeimenoy na doqei mia shmantikh politikh wqhsh, wste na lhfqoyn oi telikes apofaseis sthn Taktikh Synodo Koryfhs, poy qa ginei sth Nikaia, stis arxes Dekembrioy. Qemata twn ejwterikwn sxesewn ths E.E. h twn qemeliwdwn dikaiwmatwn twn politwn sthn E.E., exoyn proteraiothta. Qa syzhthqoyn bebaiws, kai politika zhthmata gia tis teleytaies ejelijeis sth Gioygkoslabia, gia thn katastash sth Mesh Anatolh. Mporw na sas pw oti o k. Kostoynitsa, o opoios exei prosklhqei apo th gallikh Proedria kai qa symmetasxei sto geyma to opoio paratiqetai to Sabbato to meshmeri, exei zhthsei na synanthqei kai qa synanthqei me ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo, sto plaisio ayths ths Diaskechs. O k. Kostoynitsa peran toy proedreyontos ths E.E. k. Sirak me ton opoio bebaiws qa exei synanthsh, qa hqele o prwtos hgeths xwras ths E.E. me ton opoio qa synomilhsei na einai o k. Shmiths. H synanthsh ayth ypologizetai na ginei to Sabbato arga to meshmeri h nwris to apogeyma.

FILHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw an h ellhnikh Kybernhsh prokeitai na sygkatateqei sth ryqmish poy perilambanetai sta ntokoymenta ths Synodoy, h opoia epikrinetai apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh Idiokthtwn Typoy oti periorizei to dikaiwma ths eleyqerotypias.

REPPAS: Blepw polla dhmosieymata ta opoia metajy twn allwn dinoyn thn entypwsh se kapoion poy den gnwrizei, pws exoyn ta pragmata sthn Ellada, oti sthn patrida mas yparxei periorismos h ena eidos astynomeyshs ston Typo. Gnwrizete poly kala oti sthn Ellada h eleyqerotypia brisketai se poly ychlo epipedo. Oi syzhthseis poy qa ginoyn ekei einai xrhsimes. Emeis bebaiws qa yperaspistoyme to agaqo ths eleyqerotypias, poy einai systatiko mias Dhmokratias. Epishs, qa prepei na yperaspisqoyme ta atoma kai thn proswpikothta toys apo adikes prosboles. Gnwrizete oti polles fores ta Mesa Enhmerwshs me adikes prosboles odhgoyn ta atoma se adiejodo. Einai kati poy prepei na antimetwpisoyme apo koinoy. To fainomeno ayto den einai jeno sthn patrida mas kai dhmioyrgei polla problhmata. Giati en onomati ths eleyqerotypias legontai kai grafontai pragmata poy den exoyn kamia sxesh me th dhmosiografia. Ara loipon qa prepei ta ryparografhmata na antimetwpistoyn. Kai ayto einai xreos prwta kai kyria twn idiwn twn leitoyrgwn twn MME. Den nomizw na exete antirrhsh s' ayto.

FILHS: Allo einai to qema. O Prwqypoyrgos qa epimeinei se eyrwpaiko epipedo, sto plaisio ths Xartas twn Dikaiwmatwn na diatypwqei h diakrish poy yparxei sto Syntagma ths xwras mas, alla kai allwn eyrwpaikwn xwrwn, metajy Typoy kai hlektronikwn MME;

REPPAS: Ayth einai h qesh mas. Alla sas eipa oti ola ayta ta qemata qa syzhthqoyn. Giati polles fores h Dhmosiografia, eite entyph, eite apo ta hlektronika Mesa Enhmerwshs, en onomati ths eleyqerotypias epididetai se ena kanibalismo. Ayto apasxolei tis xwres ths E.E.

FILHS: Ayto einai allo qema.

REPPAS: Den einai allo qema. Einai apolytws symbato. Einai to idio qema me ayto poy apasxolei kai th Synodo.

FILHS: Qelw mia eyqeia apanthsh, an o Prwqypoyrgos qa yposthrijei th syntagmatikh diakrish, poy yparxei sthn Ellada, metajy@

REPPAS: Yparxei sto Syntagma mas kai paramenei h diakrish ayth. Paramenoyme se ayth th qesh. Einai qesh poy exei diatypwqei apo palia sto Syntagma kai paramenei kai stis nees ryqmiseis.

FILHS: Sthn Eyrwpaikh Xarta qa diatypwqei;

REPPAS: Ayth einai h dikh mas qesh. Sas eipa, omws, oti yparxei ena problhma. Kai apenanti se ayto to problhma, poy einai kai mia proklhsh gia oloys, qa prepei na eimaste prosektikoi kai ajiopistoi.

FILHS: To problhma ayto den to lynoyn to Syntagma kai oi Nomoi;

REPPAS: Prepei na to antimetwpizoyn prwta ap ola oi idioi oi leitoyrgoi twn MME. Kai den to kanoyn mexri twra, sto baqmo poy qa mporoysan h qa eprepe.

Sas eyxaristw.

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