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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 8 Septembrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YFYPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

THLEMAXO XYTHRH

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Poia ejhghsh dinei h ellhnikh kybernhsh sth xqesinh anakoinwsh, parembash toy State Department , me thn opoia jekaqara diafwnei me thn episkech toy G. Papandreoy sto Beligradi;

XYTHRHS: H Ellada -to exoyme janapei- krinei h idia poia einai h politikh ths sta Balkania. Kai ayth ekdhlwnetai me to tajidi toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn sto Beligradi kai tis alles prwteyoyses. Eimaste yper ths apokatastashs enos klimatos eirhnhs kai synergasias, yper ths oikonomikhs anaptyjhs. Ola ayta proypoqetoyn dhmokratikes diadikasies sthn perioxh. Eimaste yper ths eyrwpaikhs kateyqynshs twn xwrwn twn Balkaniwn. Kai ayto to exoyme yposthrijei apo thn prwth stigmh kai to kanoyme prajh pantoy, se ola ta ``fora''. Kai sthn E.E. kai sto tajidi toy ypoyrgoy G. Papandreoy sta Balkania, ayth th xronikh stigmh. Aytos o dromos den einai, profanws, strwmenos me rodopetala. Oloi gnwrizoyme poso dyskolh einai h genikoterh katastash sthn perioxh. Omws, epimenoyme se ayth thn politikh. Yparxoyn antidraseis, metajy twn opoiwn kai aytes tis opoies anaferate. Den arese stoys Amerikanoys h sxetikh synanthsh. Ti na kanoyme; As mhn toys arese! Epishs, exei sxoliastei oti yphrxe kapoia cyxrothta sto Beligradi. Mporei kai ayto na synebh. Alla, emeis epimenoyme sth swsth politikh poy exoyme gia ta Balkania. Apo kei kai pera, o idios o Ypoyrgos -o opoios synexizei tis epafes toy- me thn epistrofh toy, profanws, qa kanei apologismo toy tajidioy aytoy kai qa apanthsei stis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Ayto poy emena proswpika moy projenei idiaiterh entypwsh kai me parajeneyei kai nomizw kai para polloys, einai to ejhs: Prwton, htan se gnwsh kai ths E.E. kai twn HPA oti qa ginei ayto to tajidi kai h synanthsh me to Milosebits. Ara, afoy to hjeran, ena erwthma poy tiqetai einai giati diamartyrontai ek twn ysterwn; Deyteron, kai h apanthsh toy k. Papandreoy kai h dikh sas twra, einai se arketa pio ychloys, apo toys synhqismenoys tonoys, ton teleytaio kairo, stis sxeseis twn HPA me th xwra mas. Aytes tis dyo parathrhseis, pws eseis tis sxoliazete, pws tis ermhneyete;

XYTHRHS: Ayta einai dika sas sxolia, panw sto tajidi kai tis dhlwseis, oi opoies exoyn dei to fws ths dhmosiothtas. Th dikh mas qesh sas thn eipa.

KARELIAS: Eseis eixate pei tis proalles edw oti oi etairoi mas, h Dysh genikotera, htan enhmerh gia to tajidi Papandreoy sto Beligradi. H amerikanikh antidrash, xqes, deixnei to antiqeto. Ti apo ta dyo isxyei;

XYTHRHS: Nomizw oti kanete laqos. An diabasete kala ti apanthse o Amerikanos ekproswpos, qa deite oti leei pws htan en gnwsei toys to tajidi ayto. H antidrash toy einai sth synanthsh poy egine me ton k. Milosebits.

KARELIAS: Ayto einai to spoydaio ths ypoqeshs.

XYTHRHS: Sas eipa. Den arese h synanthsh toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn. Ti na kanoyme; As mhn arese. H Ellada einai ayth poy krinei poia qa einai h qesh ths kai prepei na krathsei -qa symplhrwna- anoiktoys toys diayloys epikoinwnias sthn perioxh. Kai ayto kanei.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Eipate oti epimenoyme sth swsth politikh poy akoloyqoyme sta Balkania. Pera apo tis antidraseis, eite apo tis HPA, eite apo to Beligradi, h kybernhsh pws krinei ta apotelesmata aytoy toy tajidioy; Htan ena kalo tajidi, wfelhse th xwra mas, eixe apotelesmata;

XYTHRHS: Kat arxas, prepei na sas pw oti mia politikh exei makroproqesma kai mesoproqesma apotelesmata. Den ekdhlwnontai ta apotelesmata amesws. Poly perissotero mia politikh sta Balkania, thn paroysa stigmh, me osa exoyme zhsei ton teleytaio xrono. Epomenws, prepei na eimaste staqeroi stis qeseis mas kai na epidiwkoyme ayta ta opoia eipa sthn arxh: To eirhniko klima kai th synergasia, tis dhmokratikes dieyqethseis, thn eyrwpaikh kateyqynsh. Se ayto symballei h paroysia mas sta Balkania kai h paroysia ayth yparxei kai qa yparxei kai sto mellon.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Hqela kai ena sxolio. Xqes, o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn kalese sthn ellhnikh presbeia foithtes ths antipoliteyshs, me apotelesma otan efygan, na syllhfqoyn, na diwxqoyn apo th serbikh kybernhsh. Mhpws ayto htan mia atyxhs kinhsh;

XYTHRHS: H oloklhrwmenh eidhsh einai oti diamartyrhqhke o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn kai synebale se tropo wste na afeqoyn. Apo kei kai pera, den qa krinoyme poia politikh efarmozei eswterika h gioygkoslabikh kybernhsh. O kaqenas mporei na krinei monos toy.

BITALHS: Ki eseis eixate aposyndesei, arketa kaqara thn episkech toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn sto Beligradi apo tis epikeimenes ekloges. Wstoso, opws fanhke kai apo th synanthsh me ton k. Milosebits kai apo th synanthsh me ton k. Giobanobits, to mhnyma poy metafere o k. Papandreoy htan akribws panw stis ekloges. Pws ejhgeitai ayto; H parembash toy Ypoyrgoy poy eipe oti prepei na dexqoyn parathrhtes, oti prepei oi ekloges na einai timies, kaqares k.l.p., phre kapoies apanthseis kai apo ton k. Milosebits kai apo ton k. Giobanobits, sthn telikh anakoinwsh.

XYTHRHS: Ayto den shmainei parembash sta eswterika@

BITALHS: Den eipa gia parembash.

XYTHRHS: O ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ekane mia eyxh kai mia parainesh, oi ekloges na diejaxqoyn me ton kalytero dynato tropo, giati ayto qa einai ep` wfeleia ths idias ths xwras. Kai ayto to ekane se oles tis synanthseis poy eixe sth Gioygkoslabia.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Telikws, o Prwqypoyrgos synanthqhke me ton Mpil Klinton; Giati diabazoyme se kapoies efhmerides, shmera, oti Amerikanoi ajiwmatoyxoi yposthrizoyn pws yphrje mia aplh, typikh synanthsh, sto periqwrio kai oxi synanthsh 20@ @

XYTHRHS: Opws jerete, sto deipno ergasias metajy twn Prwqypoyrgwn, egine h synanthsh toy k. Klinton me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Egine synanthsh kai antallagh apocewn. O Prwqypoyrgos rwthqhke apo synadelfoys sas gi` ayth th synanthsh sth Nea Yorkh, se mia syntomh synenteyjh Typoy poy edwse.

MPOTWNHS: Exete kapoio sxolio gia thn epikeimenh episkech toy Patriarxh, ton erxomeno mhna, dedomenoy oti yparxoyn kapoies plhrofories pws den yparxei o analogos enqoysiasmos gia thn episkech sthn Ierarxia; Kai me dedomeno oti einai ena megalo gegonos, yparxei kapoio sxolio;

XYTHRHS: Einai panta eyprosdektos o Patriarxhs, sthn Ellada.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Me bash tis kataggelies poy ekane xqes sth Boylh o k. Kefalogiannhs oti to 1990, me synainesh triwn politikwn arxhgwn, toy A. Papandreoy, toy X. Flwrakh kai toy K. Mhtsotakh, doqhke h chfiakh thlefwnia se sygkekrimeno epixeirhmatia, qa hqela na sas rwthsw: Apodexeste tis kataggelies aytes, oson afora to proswpo toy A. Papandreoy;

XYTHRHS: Prwta apo ola, parakoloyqwntas kai egw ayta poy synebhsan sth Boylh, apo thn periodo ekeinh o,ti qymatai o kaqenas leei kai to leei opws ton boleyei. Ta qemata ta opoia anaferontai sthn epoxh ekeinh, eixan diereynhqei apo th Dikaiosynh kai exei ekdoqei porisma. To qema exei kriqei. H anakyklwsh poy ginetai twra sth Boylh exei ena xarakthra proswpikwn antiqesewn. O k. Kefalogiannhs enantion toy k. Mhtsotakh, o k. Mhtsotakhs enantion toy k. Samara, o k. Samaras enantion toy k. Mhtsotakh. Pisteyw oti h diaplokh enyparxei sth N.D. Kai ayto parakoloyqoyme oloi mas me aytes tis antipalothtes, poy ekdhlwqhkan teleytaia. Oson afora to sygkekrimeno poy rwthsate -afoy sas epanalabw oti o kaqenas o,ti qymatai kai o,ti ton boleyei leei- sas ypenqymizw oti exoyn yparjei, kata thn epoxh ekeinh, sxetikes apanthseis apo ton A. Papandreoy. Kalo qa htan na ginei mia ereyna ths epoxhs pio emperistatwmenh, an ayto einai to zhtoymeno.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Yparxoyn dhmosieymata, shmera, poy kanoyn logo gia diatrhth apofash ths Arxhs Prostasias Proswpikwn Dedomenwn. Symfwna me ta praktika, eji melh ths Arxhs apoxwrhsan apo th synedriash. Qa hqela to sxolio sas gia thn apofash Dafermoy.

XYTHRHS: Nomizw oti gia to qema exei katateqei sxetikh erwthsh sth Boylh. Ara, qa apanthsei o armodios ypoyrgos poy erwtatai. Qelw pantws na dieykrinisw oti den yparxei allh apoch gia thn apofash. H apofash einai ayth. Den tiqetai en amfibolw apo kanenan. Kai yphrje me omofwnia twn paristamenwn.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Ginontai kapoies diergasies sto edafos ths Neas Yorkhs gia synanthsh toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Toyrko Proedro;

XYTHRHS: Oxi, kamia diergasia.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Endexetai na prokycei synanthsh;

XYTHRHS: Opws jerete, sto periqwrio twn ergasiwn toy OHE, mporei na yparjoyn polles synanthseis, alla den epidiwketai kati tetoio.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Thn teleytaia miamish ebdomada parakoloyqoyme mia anodikh poreia toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Den qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs poy exei mia pagia qesh, alla qa hqela na rwthsw an protiqetai na systhsei stoys ependytes kapoia aytosygkrathsh, mhpws yparjei kapoio endexomeno kaqizhshs @

XYTHRHS: Kamia parembash den prokeitai na kanoyme gia ayta ta opoia lete, pros kamia kateyqynsh. Oson afora thn poreia toy Xrhmatisthrioy, mporeite monoi sas na krinete.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Epeidh den me kalyce h apanthsh sas, qelw na epanelqw sto erwthma moy kai qelw na ginete pio safhs@

XYTHRHS: Einai istoriko to dedomeno poy moy anaferete. Anafereste sto 1990, yparxei mia seira diergasiwn poy akoloyqhqhke kai nomizw oti den einai edw o katallhlos xwros gia na anaptyjoyme to ti egine kai ti den egine tote.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Rwtw, epeidh hsastan konta ston idryth toy PASOK kai gnwrizete apo prwto xeri to ti synebh ekeinh thn epoxh. Symmeteixe o A. Papandreoy se ekeines tis diadikasies;

XYTHRHS: Sas eipa oti yparxoyn dhlwseis toy A. Papandreoy, oson afora ton tropo poy elhfqh h apofash ekeinh. Prwtagwnisths thn epoxh ekeinh htan kai o tote Dioikhths toy OTE, o opoios elabe kai thn entolh. Apo poion elabe thn entolh; Apo thn kybernhsh elabe thn entolh; Einai diafora erwthmata poy aforoyn thn periodo ekeinh, ta opoia xrhzoyn mias ereynas perissotero leptomereiakhs, apo o,ti akoygetai aytes tis meres. To qema, omws, exei kleisei,

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den phran thn apofash oi treis politikoi arxhgoi kai edwsan thn entolh ston k. Zolwta na proxwrhsei;

XYTHRHS: Sas eipa oti yparxoyn dhlwseis, toso toy A. Papandreoy, oso kai toy tote Proedroy toy Synaspismoy k. Flwrakh, gia ta qemata ayta. Parakalw na anatrejete ekei.

MIXAHL: Wstoso, opws ki an exei to zhthma, anejarthta apo to ti egine tote, mporoyme na anatrejoyme ston istoriko toy mellontos, to qema einai oti ayth th stigmh epanerxetai h syzhthsh, ws paradeigma gia to pws h diaplokh brisketai sta podia ths politikhs ejoysias, na to pw etsi. Kata thn apoch sas, giati epanerxetai ayto to paradeigma sthn epikairothta; Giati, dhladh, o k. Kefalogiannhs leei twra oti ayto to paradeigma synebh tote;

XYTHRHS: Gi ayto na rwthsete ton k. Kefalogiannh.

MIXAHL: H kybernhsh, omws@

XYTHRHS: H kybernhsh parakoloyqei qesmika ta qemata poy anaferontai shmera sth diafaneia. Kai ayto to opoio yposthrizei kai kanei prajh einai na qwrakizei, oso mporei kalytera, kai to nomiko kai to qesmiko plaisio. Ginetai kai sxetikh syzhthsh sth Boylh, sto plaisio ths anaqewrhshs toy Syntagmatos.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Xqes, eixame thn aposyrsh ths tropologias apo th Boylh kai thn kataqesh ths ws sxedioy nomoy. Exete eikona eseis -sas rwtw, giati dhmosiografikes plhrofories kai dhmosieymata anaferoyn ayto- oti boyleytes toy PASOK mplokaran ayth th diadikasia;

XYTHRHS: Oxi, den yparxei kati tetoio. Ta praktika ths Boylhs einai sth diaqesh sas. Poios milhse sth Boylh xqes kai poios mataiwse th syzhthsh, mporeite na to breite.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite, legontas "poios mataiwse th syzhthsh"; O k. Kaklamanhs eipe oti prepei na aposyrqei h tropologia kai o ypoyrgos eipe to idio. Epomenws, poios mataiwse th syzhthsh;

XYTHRHS: O k. Kaklamanhs -ta eipame xqes, leptomerws- eipe oti gia na syzhthqei h tropologia prepei na yparxei omofwnia. Omofwnia, loipon, den yphrje, dioti h antipoliteysh den dexqhke na syzhthqei h tropologia. Ara, mataiwqhke h syzhthsh epi ths tropologias kai aposyrqhke h tropologia gia na epanelqei ws sxedio nomoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yphrjan epafes boyleytwn toy PASOK ektos toy Koinoboylioy, oxi mesa sto Koinoboylio;

XYTHRHS: Na meinete se ayta ta opoia sas lew.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Ep eykairia ths paroysias toy sth Nea Yorkh, mhpws o k. Shmiths qa qelhsei na diamartyrhqei kai epi topoy gia th stash twn Amerikanwn kai ta sxolia toys; Mhpws sto periqwrio twn synanthsewn qa pei ston k. Klinton@;

XYTHRHS: H synanthsh metajy toy k. Klinton kai toy k. Shmith egine kai o Prwqypoyrgos apanthse se erwthseis synadelfwn sas, meta th synanthsh ayth.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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