Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-06-29

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 29 Ioynioy 1999

Geia sas.

Qa hqela, kat` arxhn, na sas enhmerwsw oti sth Brazilia apofasisthke h Qessalonikh na apotelesei thn edra toy Organismoy gia thn anasygkrothsh twn Balkaniwn, meta ton polemo. Ayth einai mia shmantikh apofash gia th xwra mas. Egine katorqwth meta apo synexeis prospaqeies kai syzhthseis poy eixan o Prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Shmiths kai o ypoyrgos anaplhrwths Ejwterikwn Giannos Kranidiwths, sth Brazilia, me toys omologoys toys. H apofash ayth katadeiknyei to rolo poy mporei na diadramatisei h xwra mas kai gia thn epomenh hmera ths anasygkrothshs twn Balkaniwn.

Epiqymw, omws, na kanw kai ena sxolio epi toy qematos aytoy: Xqes, molis, o arxhgos ths Neas Dhmokratias dhlwne oti h Ellada paragkwnizetai, epeidh h Qessalonikh den qa paijei kanena rolo sthn anasygkrothsh twn Balkaniwn. Stoixeiwdhs endeijh eyqijias toy epiballei, shmera, na kanei dhmosia thn aytokritikh toy. Ayto, gia na katadeixqei oti ta megala eqnika qemata kai oi eqnikes prospaqeies den prepei kai den mporei na apoteloyn antikeimeno mikrokommatikhs skopimothtas kai ekmetalleyshs. H ypoqesh ayth katadeiknyei, me ton pleon peritrano tropo, thn aneyqynothta me thn opoia xeirizetai o arxhgos ths N. D. ta eqnika qemata kai th dieqnh qesh ths xwras.

Ayta, oson afora to diko moy eisagwgiko sxolio.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MPOYATAR: Meta kai apo tis dhlwseis poy exoyme apo Mosxa, qa hqela na jerw, ama, pote kai poy problepetai na pernane, mesw Elladas, rwsikes dynameis kai ejoplismoi gia to Kossyfopedio;

NIKOLAOY: Den exoyme kati perissotero na poyme gia to qema ayto. Jerete oti h xwra mas exei symbalei sthn prowqhsh, mesa apo tis dieykolynseis poy mporoyme na parasxoyme apo ta limania mas, olwn twn anagkaiwn stratiwtikwn dynamewn poy synapoteloyn tis eirhneytikes dynameis gia to Kossyfopedio.

MPOYATAR: Alla kapoies leptomereies;

NIKOLAOY: Den exw perissoteres leptomereies. Molis exoyme qa tis anakoinwsoyme.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Yparxei kapoio sxolio gia thn apofash toy dikasthrioy ths Toyrkias gia to qanato ston Otsalan;

NIKOLAOY: Exoyme, epaneilhmmena, dhlwsei ayto poy kai h E. E. kai oloi oi eyrwpaikoi organismoi exoyn diakhryjei, pws eimaste antiqetoi me th qanatikh poinh kai th qanatikh katadikh. H Toyrkia qa prepei na apodeijei pws, kai se oti afora th leitoyrgia twn qesmwn aponomhs ths dikaiosynhs, eyqygrammizetai me ta kratoynta stis xwres ths E. E. Se oti afora to koyrdiko problhma, gnwrizete poies einai oi qeseis mas. Pisteyoyme oti einai ena eswteriko problhma ths Toyrkias, to opoio apaitei politikes diadikasies epilyshs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, an yparxei atzenta stis syzhthseis toy k. Papandreoy me ton k. Tzem. Ean yparxoyn sygkekrimena qemata ektos epistolhs.

NIKOLAOY: H atzenta prosdiorizetai apo tis epistoles poy anthllaghsan.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mono apo ekei;

NIKOLAOY: Asfalws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den yparxei kapoia diafora. Oti qemata yparxoyn stis epistoles, qa syzhthqoyn.

NIKOLAOY: Oi epistoles anedeijan orismena qemata. Gnwrizete -to syzhthsame kai tis prohgoymenes hmeres- thn optikh, mesa apo thn opoia h xwra mas exei antimetwpisei to qema ayto. H atzenta, loipon, prosdiorizetai apo tis epistoles poy exoyn antallagei. Kai epanalambanw, gia na sas to qymisw, oti yparxei mia seira apo qemata, opws einai emporika, toyristika, periballontologika, oikonomika me thn eyreia ennoia kai qemata dhmosias tajhs kai asfaleias, ta opoia qa mporoysan na syzhthqoyn, wste na anazhthqoyn piqanothtes synergasias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, mesa s` ayta einai kai h tromokratia.

NIKOLAOY: To apanthsame ayto kai xqes. Eipame oti h xwra mas antimetwpizei me ena diaforetiko tropo thn ypoqesh ths tromokratias, apo ayton poy to antimetwpizei h Toyrkia. Kai exoyme epaneilhmmena dhlwsei -to eipa kai xqes, edw- oti den apodexomaste tis gnwstes aitiaseis ths Toyrkias, tis opoies den xreiazetai na anaferw. Ara, loipon, to qema ayto gia mas, entassetai, afenos, se ena balkaniko plaisio antimetwpishs twn qematwn aytwn kai afeteroy, synartatai me to sebasmo toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy kai twn dieqnwn synqhkwn poy yparxoyn gia th dhmosia tajh kai asfaleia poy emeis exoyme apodexqei, ws melh ths eyryterhs dieqnoys koinothtas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mesa stis epistoles yparxei kai to qema ths tromokratias;

NIKOLAOY: Yparxei ypo to prisma poy sas anelysa.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Opote, den qa to syzhthsoyn ayto.

NIKOLAOY: Apanthsa, k. Stamatopoyle. Ta qemata poy perigrafontai stis dyo epistoles qa syzhthqoyn ypo to prisma poy to topoqethsame kai sto opoio anaferqhkame analytika.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gi` ayto sas lew. Yparxei mesa sta qemata poy perigrafete kai h tromokratia.

NIKOLAOY: Sas apanthsa kai tis prohgoymenes hmeres kai epanalambanw kai shmera, oti to qema ths tromokratias gia mas antimetwpizetai, oxi jexwrista, alla se ena plaisio, ena synolo qematwn dhmosias tajhs kai asfaleias: Kai apariqmhsa, endeiktika, ta narkwtika, th laqrometanasteysh, thn antimetwpish toy koinoy egklhmatos. Alla, kai ta qemata ayta, antimetwpizontai se ena eyrytero plaisio, to opoio perigrafei o k. Papandreoy sthn epistolh toy. Ena eyrytero plaisio dynatothtwn synergasias, to opoio kai o k. Papandreoy kai egw, analysame diejodika. Dhladh, oikonomika, emporika, toyristika qemata k. o. k. Den yparxei xwristh anafora gia mas sto qema ayto kai kata toyto -epanalambanw- exoyme diafwnia me thn Toyrkia ston tropo me ton opoio antimetwpizei ekeinh to qema kai den dexomaste tis aitiaseis ths.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Pantws shmera ston Typo anaferetai eyrytata oti h epistolh Papandreoy, sthn oysia odhgei se enan anoixto dialogo pleon ef' olhs ths ylhs me thn Toyrkia. To diaceydete ayto;

NIKOLAOY: H epistolh toy k. Papandreoy dinei th dynatothta na yparjei enas dialogos me thn Toyrkia panw sta qemata sta opoia anaferetai. Ta qemata ayta perigrafontai safws. Epanalambanw, einai qemata emporika, oikonomika, einai o toyrismos, to periballon, h dhmosia tajh kai asfaleia, h laqrometanasteysh, ta narkwtika k. t. l. Ayto einai ena plaisio dialogoy kai gia na yparjoyn dynatothtes pragmatopoihshs toy prepei kai h geitonikh xwra na epideijei kalh diaqesh. An ginei ayto, mporei na epiteyxqoyn symfwnies se ayta ta qemata. Anoixtos dialogos, xwris atzenta, gia ola ta alla qemata qa shmaine oti bazoyme sto trapezi ta meizona qemata, poy yparxoyn ws ajiwseis ths Toyrkias. Gi' ayta ta qemata, exoyme pei, oti h Toyrkia ofeilei na sebastei toys dieqneis kanones, tis dieqneis synqhkes, to Dieqnes Dikaio kai an pisteyei ekeinh oti briskontai se ekkremothta, na prosfygei sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio ths Xaghs. Den syzhtoyme, loipon, gi' ayto to megalo paketo twn qematwn. Syzhtoyme gia epimeroys qemata sta opoia mporei na ginoyn proseggiseis kai piqanws na prokycoyn symfwnies.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Alhqeyei h plhroforia oti yparxei eggrafo ths amerikanikhs kybernhshs poy leei na ginei elegxos ths omadas aimatos;

NIKOLAOY: Den yparxei tetoio eggrafo.

KAMPOYRGIANNH: Otan h syzhthsh erqei se qemata oikologikhs prostasias, mias braxonhsidas, den tiqetai aytomatws kai qema kyriarxias;

NIKOLAOY: As mhn mpoyme se tetoies leptomereies kai as mhn prodikasoyme oti to prwto qema poy qa syzhthsei o k. Papandreoy me ton k. Tzem qa einai h oikologikh prostasia twn braxonhsidwn! Yparxei mia seira apo qemata ta opoia mporei na syzhthqoyn, an yparxei kalh diaqesh kai apo tis dyo xwres. Qemata sta opoia mporei na ejeyreqoyn proseggiseis kai symfwnies. Den milame, omws, gia ta megala qemata ta opoia h xwra mas qewrei oti tiqentai ws ajiwseis kai me epiqetikes diaqeseis ths Toyrkias. Ayta ta qemata, exoyme pei, oti den tiqentai se dialogo. Kai epanelaba, apantwntas prin sthn erwthsh toy k. Kwnstantinidh, oti den milame gia dialogo ef' olhs ths ylhs. Milame gia syzhthsh kai dialogo epi twn sygkekrimenwn qematwn, ta opoia perierxontai sthn epistolh toy k. Papandreoy. Tipota parapanw.

MIXAHL: To gegonos oti qa ginei enas dialogos, opws ton proteinei o k. Papandreoy kai den yparjei symfwnia dioti yparxoyn diaforetikes proseggiseis sta problhmata ayta, apo mono toy to gegonos pws to krinei h kybernhsh to oti o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Elladas kai o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Toyrkias, para tis diafwnies kai tis diaforetikes proseggiseis kaqontai sto idio trapezi kai syzhtoyn. Ayto pws to krinete;

NIKOLAOY: Einai mia qetikh ejelijh. Gi' ayto, allwste, proteiname th synanthsh. An den pisteyame oti yparxei kati qetiko sthn ejelijh ayth den qa thn proteine o k. Papandreoy.

MIXAHL: Ti prosdoka loipon apo mia tetoia syzhthsh h kybernhsh;

NIKOLAOY: Einai aytonohto. Prosdoka thn ejeyresh dynatothtwn synergasias me thn Toyrkia sta epimeroys qemata sta opoia anaferetai h epistolh toy k. Papandreoy.

MPOYATAR: Pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh th dhlwsh toy Rampin oti yphrxe problhma me thn Toyrkia, alla kai thn Ellada, se sxesh me ta amerikanika opla kai thn Kypro kai oti eginan systaseis kai stis dyo kybernhseis. O k. Pagkalos eixe qesei ayto to qema apokleistika san paraptwma ths Toyrkias.

NIKOLAOY: Einai gnwsto oti me bash thn amerikanikh nomoqesia qa eprepe na aposyrqoyn apo thn Kypro -kai an yphrxan- opla ta opoia eixan doqei stis dyo xwres (Ellada-Toyrkia) meta to 1987. Ayto poy mporei na pei kaneis shmera einai oti h Ellada threi tis dieqneis ypoxrewseis ths, enw taytoxrona frontizei, sto metro poy ths analogei, gia thn enisxysh kai thn amyntikh qwrakish ths Kyproy.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Nai k. Genike, alla h allh pleyra den threi tis ypoxrewseis ths. Oi plhrofories lene oti h men kypriakh pleyra exei dwsei ta amerikanika opla, enw h toyrkikh pleyra oxi mono agnoei thn apofash twn HPA, alla kai exei baftisei ta amerikanika opla kai ta exei kanei toyrkikhs kataskeyhs.

NIKOLAOY: Ean h allh pleyra den threi tis ypoxrewseis ths, oson afora tis sxeseis ths me tis HPA, ayto einai ena qema poy prepei na to doyn oi HPA. Emeis, epanalambanw, throyme tis dieqneis ypoxrewseis mas, enw taytoxrona asfalizoyme kai qwrakizoyme thn Kypro, sto metro poy mas analogei.

Sas eyxaristw.

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