Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-06-22

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 22 Ioynioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qa parakaloysa na sxoliasete tis nees emprhstikes dhlwseis twn Etsebit-Ntenktas, oi opoioi aperrican sthn oysia thn apofash toy G-8. Milhsan malista gia tetelesmena sthn Kypro kai to Aigaio. Dierwtwmai pws mporei na lyqei to Kypriako me tetoies katastaseis. Yparxoyn prooptikes otan arnoyntai akoma kai apofaseis twn ploysioterwn xwrwn toy kosmoy;

REPPAS: To Kypriako qema paramenei epi polla xronia alyto. Einai enqarryntiko oti mesa se ayto to telma, poy exei dhmioyrghqei, einai qema poy apasxolei th Dieqnh Koinothta, h opoia me diaforoys tropoys, prospaqei na to antimetwpisei kai na to lysei. H kinhtikothta poy ekdhlwnetai teleytaia, me prwtoboylia ths Omadas twn oktw xwrwn, pisteyoyme oti mporei na apodwsei karpoys. Efoson, to plaisio gia thn anaptyjh ayths ths prwtoboylias einai oi apofaseis toy OHE, poy desmeyoyn oles tis xwres -kai thn Toyrkia- mporei pragmati na breqei lysh.

H stash ths Toyrkias, gia mia akomh fora, deixnei me anaglyfo kai analghto tropo oti h Toyrkia epiqymei na krathsei se omhria thn Kypro. H Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, o dieqnhs paragwn genikotera, den prokeitai na dexqei ayth thn katastash. Oi prwtoboylies, oi opoies analambanontai, pisteyoyme oti qa prepei na exoyn enan taxy ryqmo, na ejelixqoyn, wste na apodwsoyn to syntomotero dynato, gia na mhn peripesoyn pali se adiejodo kai telma. Apo thn allh, h Toyrkia qa prepei na symmorfwqei me to plaisio, to opoio exei epilejei h Dieqnhs Koinothta gia thn antimetwpish toy kypriakoy qematos. Oso den to kanei qa prepei na antimetwpizetai san xwra, h opoia -opws kai se alles periptwseis brisketai ektos dieqnoys nomimothtas. Ayth einai h alhqeia.

POYLIDOY: Yparxei mia hmeromhnia oroshmo to Noembrh. An den ginei tipota mexri to Noembrh, symfwna me th dhlwsh toy G-8, qa ginei epanajiologhsh. Ti shmainei o oros "epanajiologhsh";

REPPAS: Eipa, apantwntas prin, oti qa prepei to syntomotero dynato na jekinhsoyn aytes oi prwtoboylies kai na apodwsoyn, gia na mh synthrhqei to telma, to opoio yparxei edw kai arketa xronia. H epanajiologhsh gia thn opoia milaei to keimeno ths apofashs twn oktw xwrwn, anaferetai stis oktw aytes xwres, oi opoies, bebaiws, qa epidiwjoyn -kai isws ayto yponooyn- mia allh proseggish, oson afora thn antimetwpish kai lysh toy problhmatos, alla pantote -ayto einai dedomeno, giati apotelei kekthmeno gia th dieqnh koinothta kai th dieqnh nomimothta- sth bash twn apofasewn toy OHE. To plaisio gia lysh toy kypriakoy problhmatos einai ayto. Den prokeitai na diarragei. H lysh toy kypriakoy qematos qa prokycei me bash tis apofaseis toy OHE.

MOYRTHS: Pws blepei h kybernhsh to gegonos oti teleytaia olo kai perissoteroi organismoi, oi opoioi den exoyn qesmoqethqei sto plaisio ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas, opws einai h G-8, analambanoyn prwtoboylies;

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti einai qetiko to oti gia qemata ta opoia exoyn idiaiterh eqnikh shmasia gia mas, opws einai to kypriako problhma, ekdhlwnetai endiaferon apo to dieqnh paragonta. Den einai kalo ta qemata ayta na paramenoyn sto periqwrio kai na mhn apasxoloyn th Dieqnh Koinothta. Pisteyoyme, omws, parallhla oti to endiaferon ayto prepei na metatrapei se sygkekrimena kai xeiropiasta apotelesmata, ta opoia, bebaiws, den mporei na einai alla apo ta apotelesmata poy prosdokoyn oloi ekeinoi, oi opoioi ergazontai sto plaisio ths dieqnoys koinothtas kai ths dieqnoys nomimothtas, prokeimenoy na efarmostoyn oi apofaseis toy OHE. Ayto einai to krithrio. Einai mia pragmatikothta ayth sthn opoia anafereste me thn erwthsh sas. Einai mia pragmatikothta, h opoia ginetai sebasth, paradekth apo ola ta krath toy kosmoy. Den blepw na yparxoyn antidraseis. Ayto, omws, poy exei shmasia - epanalambanw- einai, oi energeies aytes na kinoyntai sto plaisio twn apofasewn twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn. Ayto einai to poly shmantiko. Qa htan epipolaio apo thn pleyra mas kai pantws oxi eqnika wfelimo -isws epizhmio kiolas- to na eimaste antiqetoi me thn ekdhlwsh endiaferontos apo to dieqnh paragonta, gia thn antimetwpish qematwn poy exoyn mia dieqnh diastash, opws einai to kypriako problhma, to opoio einai ena dieqnes qema. Me ayth thn ennoia, loipon, o dieqnhs paragwn kalo einai na epideiknyei to endiaferon toy, alla na mhn periorizetai mono sthn ekfrash endiaferontos. Kalo einai na proxwrei se sygkekrimenes prwtoboylies poy apodidoyn praktika apotelesmata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Prin apo ligo oloklhrwqhke h synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Oikonomias k. Papantwnioy. Apofasisan kapoies oikonomikes paroxes;

REPPAS: O k. Papantwnioy ejerxomenos toy Megaroy Majimoy, ekane dhlwseis. Den yparxei tipote allo peran twn oswn eipe o k. Papantwnioy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn kainoyrgies oikonomikes paroxes;

REPPAS: Gia to qema ayto exei milhsei o k. Papantwnioy. Ekana ki egw ena sxetiko sxolio, apantwntas se erwthseis, xqes. Den prokeitai na allajei h grammh pleyshs ths kybernhshs, oson afora ton oikonomiko tomea. H oikonomikh politikh menei kata bash h idia. Den prokeitai na synthrhsoyme mia paroxologia. Tetoioy eidoys paroxes kai blaptoyn thn oikonomia kai den pisteyoyme sthn apotelesmatikothta toys, oson afora thn anakoyfish omadwn kai politwn poy exoyn pragmatika problhmata. H prospaqeia gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn qa ginei me sygkekrimenes parembaseis. Exoyme milhsei gia tis allages sto forologiko systhma. Oi allages aytes apoteloyn antikeimeno dialogoy epi arketoys mhnes, metajy twn paragwgikwn tajewn kai ths hgesias toy ypoyrgeioy. Ayth thn wra, mporoyme na poyme oti synagontai ta symperasmata, prokeimenoy, to syntomotero dynato, na anakoinwqoyn oi allages, oi opoies qa isxysoyn apo thn epomenh xronia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Papantwnioy gia paroxologia milhse.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti den ekane ayto o k. Papantwnioy. Oydeis apo thn kybernhsh milhse gia paroxes. Oydeis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipe oti qa doqoyn diafores oikonomikes paroxes. Poies einai aytes;

REPPAS: Den metaferete kalws tis dhlwseis toy k. Papantwnioy. Gia ola ta alla qemata sas parapempw se dhlwseis poy exei kanei ekeinos, alla kai stis dhlwseis poy ekana egw, xqes. Milhsa gia ayta, akribws, ta qemata. Kai milhsa me arketh safhneia.

PAPPA: Qa qelate na sxoliasete th dhlwsh toy k. Mhtsotakh poy leei oti h Ellada qa prepei na antimetwpisei qetika tis dhlwseis ths Toyrkias, oson afora th synergasia gia thn tromokratia, wste na mhn traymatizontai oi sxeseis me tis HPA.

REPPAS: Exw apanthsei pro hmerwn, otan rwthqhka, gia th sxetikh protash poy diatypwse tote o k. Etzebit. Paramenw s` ayth thn apanthsh. Apo ekei kai pera, mporw shmera na epektaqw, legontas oti ta qemata synergasias Elladas kai Toyrkias, se oloys toys tomeis, einai qemata ta opoia mporei na exoyn poly qetika apotelesmata kai gia tis dyo xwres, efoson kai oi dyo xwres epideijoyn sthn prajh ena pneyma kalhs geitonias. H Ellada se kaqe eykairia exei antapokriqei s` ayth thn anagkh. H Toyrkia, antiqetws, den exei antapokriqei. Kai gi` ayto, akribws, den mporei na milhsei kaneis gia ena qema synergasias, metajy twn dyo xwrwn, se kapoio tomea. Nomizw, loipon, oti kai sthn periptwsh ayth h Toyrkia exei megalo meridio eyqynhs, prokeimenoy me th stash ths na apodeijei oti epiqymei mia allh sxesh me thn Ellada, ara kai thn anaptyjh ths synergasias me thn Ellada se diaforoys tomeis.

KARGOYDH: Epomenws kai dedomenoy oti yparxei se ejelijh mia synanthsh twn ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn kai Dhmosias Tajews, me aformh thn epistolh Tzem kai gia to qema ths tromokratias, mas lete oti h idia h epistolh toy k. Papandreoy qa einai arnhtikh;

REPPAS: Sas lew oti den exei syntaxqei h epistolh ayth.

POYLIDOY: Den exei apostalei, oxi den exei syntaxqei.

REPPAS: Kai den exei syntaxqei.

BITSENTZOY: To gegonos oti akribws ginetai ayth h syskech, shmainei oti yioqetei h kybernhsh tis aitiaseis Amerikanwn kai Toyrkwn gia thn tromokratia; Kai to gegonos oti, pleon, ginetai sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai oxi sto Dhmosias Tajews, shmainei oti h tromokratia einai ena zhthma poy apasxolei tis ejwterikes sxeseis ths xwras.

REPPAS: Exw apanthsei -kat` epanalhch- sto qema ayto. Prwta ap` ola, pisteyoyme oti oi isxyrismoi aytoi poy diatypwnontai gia to qema ths tromokratias kai ton tropo me ton opoio h Ellada antimetwpizei to fainomeno ayto, alloy aposkopoyn kai oxi s` aythn kaqayth thn antimetwpish toy fainomenoy ths tromokratias. H Ellada einai mia xwra asfalhs. Oi prospaqeies poy kanoyn oi ellhnikes arxes einai ikanopoihtikes. Den gnwrizw alles xwres na exoyn epityxei toso ajioqaymasta apotelesmata ston tomea ayto, wste na mporoyn me yfos timhth na kathgoroyn thn Ellada. Apo ekei kai pera, den prokeitai na ginoyn paradektes tetoies kathgories enantion ths Elladas, oi opoies einai pantelws asthriktes, den antapokrinontai sthn alhqeia kai alloy aposkopoyn. H synergasia toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn me ton ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs entassetai sto plaisio twn taktikwn synergasiwn poy exoyn ta stelexh ths kybernhshs, gia diafora qemata. Ayto to qema, gnwrizete poly kala, apotelei eswteriko qema ths xwras. To antimetwpizoyme, opws kaqe xwra prepei na to antimetwpizei, alla taytoxronws, gia to qema ayto oi ellhnikes armodies yphresies synergazontai me analoges yphresies allwn kratwn, ths Eyrwphs h kai twn HPA. M` ayth thn ennoia, mporei na pei kaneis oti einai ena qema to opoio apotelei kai antikeimeno syzhthshs se dimereis h polymereis synergasies. Alla, gia to qema ayto, den exw na prosqesw tipota allo. H politikh mas einai safhs. H boylhsh mas, gia na antimetwpisoyme kai na ejaleicoyme to fainomeno ayto, einai isxyrh. Ta apotelesmata den einai panta ayta poy epiqymoyme. Allwste, den einai mono sto diko mas xeri na antimetwpisoyme kai na lysoyme to problhma. Ayto to opoio, omws, prepei na einai safes einai toyto: Den prokeitai h Ellada na ginei o stoxos ths kritikhs dynamewn poy gnwrizoyn poly kala -giati parakoloyqoyn apo poly konta oti yparxei kai ayto to pedio synergasias gia to opoio milhsa prin- poies prospaqeies kanei h Ellada gia na antimetwpisei ayto to fainomeno, to opoio oxi mono den ypoqalpei, alla me staqerh boylhsh, me staqerh politikh antimetwpizei.

KARGOYDH: Eipate prin gia dynameis poy alloy aposkopoyn. Mporeite na ginete pio safhs;

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme, opws eipa xqes, opws eipa kai stis apanthseis poy edwsa prin, oti o qorybos o opoios prokaleitai me aformh ayto to zhthma, einai dysanalogos me thn prospaqeia poy kanoyn kapoioi na antimetwpisoyn to problhma ayto. Pisteyw oti dhmioyrgeitai ena politiko zhthma ek toy mh ontos. Kai ayto einai problhma.

SOYGLERHS: Qelw na rwthsw, ean paraithqhkan h prokeitai na paraithqoyn oi dyo genikoi grammateis toy ypoyrgeioy Proedrias kai oi deka perifereiarxes; Einai alhqeia ayto kai an exei zhthsei h k. Papandreoy, opws grafetai stis efhmerides, na paraithqoyn;

REPPAS: H ka Papandreoy xeirizetai ta qemata ths armodiothtas ths. Shmera, exei synergasia me thn Enwsh Nomarxiakwn Aytodioikhsewn Elladas. Ekei, mporei na probei se kapoies dhlwseis kai en pash periptwsei tis epiloges tis opoies qa kanei gia qemata toy ypoyrgeioy ths, qa tis anakoinwsei h idia. Den yparxei ayth thn wra kati etoimo pros anakoinwsh apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs.

Sas eyxaristw.

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