Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-06-03

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 3 Ioynioy 1999

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

SOYRMELH: Yparxei bebaia diaceysh apo to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Wstoso, epeidh, einai qema poy mporei kapoio gramma na yparxei apo pleyras Ypoyrgeioy Amynas h se sas, yparxei kapoio gramma toy NATO poy na leei oti dinoyn sthn Ellada, apo ellhnikes dynameis qa einai h polyeqnikh dynamh sto Kosobo poy qa fylaei toys Serboys;

NIKOLAOY: Den yparxei kati tetoio. Allwste -opws gnwrizete- ta qemata ayta einai ola sto trapezi twn syzhthsewn. Afoy -kai oxi efoson, mia ki elpizoyme oti ta pragmata qa ejelixqoyn kala shmera sto Beligradi- yparjei symfwnia, qa ta doyme. Ayto poy h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei dhlwsei -kai einai anagnwrismeno apo oloys- einai oti, efoson epiteyxqei symfwnia kai yparjei eirhneytikh dynamh, h Ellada qa symmetasxei se ayth. Ta ypoloipa einai ypo syzhthsh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Exete kati neotero apo to Beligradi, oson afora tis ejelijeis;

NIKOLAOY: Oxi. Oti metadidoyn ta eidhseografika praktoreia. Elpizoyme, bebaia, na epibebaiwqei to klima aisiodojias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, exete na kanete kapoio sxolio gia tis dhlwseis toy Toyrkoy Ypoyrgoy Amynas sxetika me ta nhsia;

NIKOLAOY: Epanalambanoyme tis pagies ellhnikes qeseis, tis opoies, bebaia, gnwrizete. Qewroyme oti h Toyrkia qa prepei na symperiferetai symfwna me th dieqnh nomimothta, ean qelei na odeysei pros mia eyrwpaikh strathgikh kai prooptikh. H ellhnikh kybernhsh exei dhlwsei pws sto Aigaio yparxoyn dieqneis synqhkes, yparxoyn symfwnies, yparxei Dieqnes Dikaio kai oti h Toyrkia, an exei opoiosdhpote epifylajeis, mporei na akoloyqhsei to dromo ths dieqnoys nomimothtas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa diamartyrhqoyme gi` aytes tis dhlwseis; Kai mallon den htan dhlwseis, htan omilia toy sthn Eqnosyneleysh, htan pio sobara akoma.

NIKOLAOY: Den yparxei logos na diamartyrhqoyme gia tis dhlwseis poy kanoyn oi Toyrkoi epishmoi. Ayto poy kanoyme panta einai na proballoyme kai na epishmainoyme tis dikes mas apoceis. H Toyrkia ektiqetai me tis dhlwseis aytes twn diaforwn epishmwn ths. Oso probainei se dhlwseis adiallajias kai epiqetikothtas, ektiqetai. Emeis exoyme tis pagies qeseis mas. Kai oi qeseis mas anagnwrizontai apo th dieqnh koinothta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, mporoyn na lene oti qeloyn;

NIKOLAOY: Kaqenas mporei na leei oti qelei, k. Stamatopoyle. Mporoyme na toy to apagoreysoyme;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Emeis den prepei, omws, ayta na ta...

NIKOLAOY: Emeis leme tis qeseis mas. Kai tis exoyme pei se ola ta dieqnh fora, tis dieqneis synanthseis...

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den prepei na antidrasoyme, omws;

NIKOLAOY: Antidroyme dia ths probolhs twn apocewn mas kai dia ths sqenarhs kai staqerhs ellhnikhs stashs yperaspishs twn kyriarxikwn dikaiwmatwn kai twn eqnikwn dikaiwn, oi opoies allwste -kai ayto exei shmasia- briskoyn aphxhsh sth dieqnh koinh gnwmh, kaqws sthrizontai sth dieqnh nomimothta.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na rwthsw: H kybernhsh ti akribws prosdoka apo tis diergasies poy ginontai twra sto Beligradi;

NIKOLAOY: Na yparjei eirhnh.

MIXAHL: Thn blepete efikth;

NIKOLAOY: Nai. Allwste, ayto htan, edw kai para poly kairo, opws jerete, epidiwjh ths kybernhshs, h opoia phre arketes prwtoboylies gia ta qemata ayta. Mhn jexname, allwste, pws polles apo tis qeseis poy exoyn teqei sto trapezi twn syzhthsewn, tis teleytaies hmeres, kai twra sto Beligradi, perilambanontan kai stis arxikes ellhnikes prwtoboylies. Oxi mono stis ellhnikes. Perilambanontan kai stis prwtoboylies allwn, alla kai stis ellhnikes.

MIXAHL: Efoson, loipon, opws eyelpisteite, ta pragmata pane kat` eyxhn, ayrio to prwi mpainoyme pleon se mia fash apokatastashs ths eirhnhs. H Ellada ti diekdikei;

NIKOLAOY: Kat` arxhn, as perimenoyme na doyme an qa yparjei symfwnia kai ti akribws qa perilambanei. Emeis ayto poy kanoyme, einai na ekfrazoyme tis elpides mas kai na enisxyoyme tis dikes mas prwtoboylies, gia na symbaloyme sthn epiteyjh ths eirhnhs. Ta alla qa exoyme kairo na ta syzhthsoyme. Allwste, opws jerete, h diadikasia ths eirhneyshs kai h epilysh toy problhmatos sto Kosobo, den qa einai diadikasia mias hmeras. Pisteyoyme oti qa parei arketo kairo. H Ellada qa einai paroysa. H Ellada den diekdikei apo thn perioxh tipota. H Ellada diekdikei eirhnh gia thn eyryterh perioxh.

MIXAHL: Ennow ti rolo diekdikei;

NIKOLAOY: O rolos ths Elladas einai o rolos ths staqerothtas kai ths eirhnhs gia olh thn perioxh. Kai ton exei katadeijei ayto to rolo. Alla ayto poy proexei ayth th stigmh einai na epiteyxqei h symfwnia, gia na yparjei eirhneysh. Ta ypoloipa qa ta syzhthsoyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, lete oti h Ellada htan panta yper ths eirhnhs. Pws, omws, einai dynaton, apo th mia na leei oti einai yper ths eirhnhs kai apo thn allh meria na ypografei dyo fores th genoktonia twn Gioygkoslabwn;

NIKOLAOY: Ta exoyme syzhthsei ayta kai den exw kamia antirrhsh na ta janasyzhthsoyme, alla epeidh parakoloyqw thn kaqhmerinh syzhthsh poy exete me ton k. Reppa, jerw oti ta exete syzhthsei toylaxiston 45 fores. Mporei na htan kai 46. Tessarakosth ebdomh na ta poyme; Qa sas pw ta idia poy eipe o k. Reppas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H epanalhch den einai kako.

NIKOLAOY: Einai mhthr maqhsews, alla mh me ypoballete s` ayto to martyrio. Ta exoyme pei.

SOYGLERHS: Mia apofash toy Symboylioy Epikrateias aporriptei to nomo toy k. Arsenh gia to programma spoydwn epiloghs. Yparxei kapoio sxolio;

NIKOLAOY: Kat` arxhn, den yparxei apofash toy Symboylioy Epikrateias. Ayto sto opoio anafereste einai h gnwmh toy eishghth. Kai s` aytes tis periptwseis, opws jerete, anamenoyme panta na exoyme thn oristikh apofash. Ayto poy mporoyme na poyme -kai to exei pei kai to ypoyrgeio Paideias se anakoinwsh toy- einai oti ta programmata spoydwn epiloghs einai mia epilogh ths kybernhshs, h opoia qa efarmostei. Pisteyoyme oti den qa exoyme alloy eidoys problhmata sthn efarmogh ayths ths epiloghs. Pros to paron, loipon, exoyme mia eishghsh.

SOYGLERHS: Synhqws, oi eishghseis ginontai apodektes.

NIKOLAOY: H kybernhsh kineitai panta sth bash twn apofasewn kai oxi twn eishghsewn. Ayto poy exei shmasia ws politikh apanthsh einai oti o qesmos twn programmatwn spoydwn epiloghs, einai epilogh ths kybernhshs.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean prokeitai na yparjei anabolh sth dieleysh twn natoikwn strateymatwn, apo th xwra mas.

NIKOLAOY: Den dierxontai natoika strateymata

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Giati, xqes, perase ena "Siseinto" kai jefortwse sth Qessalonikh.

NIKOLAOY: Prokeitai gia periorismenh metafora ylikoy.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, an yparxei kapoia ektimhsh kai an egine mia prwth syzhthsh gia to posoi Ellhnes stratiwtes qa paroyn meros se mia eirhneytikh dynamh.

NIKOLAOY: Apantw me ton idio tropo poy apanthsa kai sthn erwthsh ths kas Soyrmelh: Oti ola ayta einai qemata poy mporoyn na syzhthqoyn. Giati o ariqmos, opws epishs kai h sygkekrimenh apostolh sto plaisio ths eirhneytikhs dynamhs, ejartwntai apo tis idies tis symfwnies, tis opoies den exoyme ayth th stigmh mprosta mas. Den einai kati to opoio qa to apofasisoyme, kat` arxhn, monoi mas. Qa einai se syndyasmo me tis ypoloipes dynameis, oi opoies qa paroyn meros se mia eirhneytikh dynamh. Kai ekei h xwra mas qa analabei ena sygkekrimeno rolo. Poios qa einai, akribws, aytos o rolos, poses dynameis kai ti dynameis qa xreiazontai, einai qemata pros syzhthsh. Kai epanalambanw, oti ejartwntai kai apo to plaisio twn symfwniwn. Ara, prepei na anameinoyme, elpizw merikes hmeres, gia na eimaste se qesh na poyme pio sygkekrimena pragmata.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Qelw na rwthsw an isxyoyn ta osa dhlwnei o Albanos ypoyrgos, oti ta osa eginan sthn Albania, eginan me th symfwnh gnwmh twn ellhnikwn astynomikwn arxwn.

NIKOLAOY: Qa elega oti to qema ayto exei syzhthqei analytika. Jerete oti yparxei mia epitroph, h opoia qa ereynhsei kai qa melethsei ta sygkekrimena peristatika kai qa katalhjei se porisma. Pisteyw oti h syzhthsh gia to qema ayto prepei na kleisei kai na mhn apasxolei allo, peran apo thn tragikothta toy apotelesmatos toy, thn politikh skhnh.

SOYRMELH: Sxetika me thn eirhneytikh dynamh, eixe pei h Ellada gia 500. Meta syzhtoyse gia 1000. Ayth h apanthsh poy dwsate, prohgoymenws, shmainei oti ayjanetai h oti meiwnetai;

NIKOLAOY: H apanthsh poy edwsa shmainei oti mporei na ayjanetai, mporei kai na meiwnetai.

SOYRMELH: Mporei kai na meiwnetai;

NIKOLAOY: Ola einai piqana. Qa sas elega na skefteste perissotero pros to "ayjanetai". Epanalambanw, omws, oti oles oi syzhthseis poy kanoyme, twra, einai peripoy san askhseis epi xartoy. Kai sto sygkekrimeno qema oi askhseis den qa einai epi xartoy, qa prokeitai gia pragmatikh apostolh, eirhneytikh panta. Ara, gia na eimaste sygkekrimenoi kai safeis, kalo qa htan na perimenoyme na doyme poies akribws symfwnies qa diamorfwqoyn, dedomenoy oti apo aytes qa ejarthqei to eidos kai o ariqmos twn stratiwtikwn dynamewn poy qa xreiastei h xwra mas gia th symmetoxh ths sthn ypoqesh ayth.

PANAGOPOYLOS: Giati h kybernhsh diafwnei me thn topoqethsh toy k. Solana ws "k. KEPPA";

NIKOLAOY: Kat` arxhn, qa prepei na pw oti ayth einai mia syzhthsh h opoia diejagetai sto plaisio ths E. E. kai -opws exei pei o Prwqypoyrgos- th stigmh poy synexizetai mia tetoia syzhthsh, h kybernhsh den qelei na dhmosiopoihsei th qesh ths. Pisteyw oti o Prwqypoyrgos kai oi ypoyrgoi poy ton synodeyoyn sth Synodo ths Kolonias, qa exoyn kati perissotero na poyn, efoson h syzhthsh ayth katalhjei kapoy aytes tis hmeres.

SOYRMELH: Exete kapoio sxolio na kanete gi` ayto poy grafetai se kapoia efhmerida, oti o k. Shmiths diafwnhse me ton k. Pronti sto qema toy na parei h Ellada thn armodiothta ths mesogeiakhs Epitrophs kai zhthse kapoio balkaniko, to opoio den yparxei;

NIKOLAOY: Se mia anoikth syzhthsh, h opoia den afora mono thn Ellada, opws jerete, afora kai oles tis alles xwres ths E. E., qa einai kalo na mhn proboyme se sxoliasmoys, prin h syzhthsh ayth katalhjei se oristika symperasmata. Eida to dhmosieyma, alla qa pw oti einai kalytera na exoyme prwta thn katalhjh twn syzhthsewn, giati opws katalabainete, kaqe xwra exei tis dikes ths epidiwjeis. Kai oi epidiwjeis aytes, opws epishs gnwrizete, den aforoyn mono sta onomata kai tis qeseis twn Epitropwn, alla einai ena synoliko plaisio syzhthshs twn "xartofylakiwn" -as moy epitrapei h ekfrash- poy yparxoyn sthn E. E. genikotera kai oi syzhthseis perilambanoyn olo ayto to paketo. Kaqe xwra exei tis epidiwjeis ths kai emeis tis dikes mas. Alla, prin katalhjoyme s` aytes tis ryqmiseis, kalo qa htan na mhn exoyme kapoia dhmosia topoqethsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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