Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-03-29

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 29 Martioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: H kybernhsh exei ypogracei thn apofash toy NATO gia bombardismoys sth Serbia;

REPPAS: Oi epixeirhseis ejelissontai me bash tis apofaseis poy exoyn lhfqei sta organa toy NATO, sta opoia symmetexei kai h Ellada, me thn idiothta toy kratoys-meloys toy NATO. Oi qeseis poy exoyme diatypwsei einai safeis. Asfalws, antapokrinomaste stis symbatikes ypoxrewseis poy exoyme ws xwra-melos toy NATO. Apo thn allh, den paraleipoyme na tonizoyme thn anagkh, estw kai ayth thn wra, na ejeyreqei mia politikh lysh sto problhma, giati pisteyoyme oti mesw stratiwtikwn epixeirhsewn den einai dynato na broyme thn prepoysa lysh.

CAROPOYLOS: Mhpws mporeite na mas peite perissotera gia to poia metra exoyn lhfqei gia thn antimetwpish toy prosfygikoy qematos;

REPPAS: Qa moy epitrecete na kanw mia genikoterh anafora, me aformh thn erwthsh sas kai na pw ta ejhs: H frash "prwta h Ellada" sympyknwnei to nohma ths politikhs mas kai apotelei ws qesh to gnwmona twn epilogwn mas. H krish sto Kossyfopedio -epanalambanoyme- eggizei thn perioxh mas kai ypo ayth thn ennoia, exei idiaitero krisimo endiaferon gia th xwra mas. Pisteyoyme pws h lysh s` ayth thn krish den mporei para na einai politikh, lysh dhladh mesw ths eirhnikhs odoy. Exoyme stratiwtikes epixeirhseis apo aeros. Exoyn dhmioyrghqei kymata prosfygwn poy metakinoyntai pros tis notioteres perioxes apo aythn toy Kossyfopedioy. H ellhnikh kybernhsh, peran twn politikwn kai diplwmatikwn kinhsewn ths, twn epafwn kai epikoinwniwn poy exei me paragontes allwn kybernhsewn kai xwrwn, anaptyssei idiaiterh prwtoboylia ston tomea ths paroxhs anqrwpistikhs bohqeias gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn poy prokyptoyn logw ayths ths prosfygikhs kinhtikothtas. Sto plaisio ayths ths prwtoboylias exoyme apofasisei na prosferoyme ameristh oikonomikh, ylikh kai allh bohqeia sta geitonika krath, ta opoia plhttontai apo to kyma twn prosfygwn. Milw idiaiterws gia thn Albania kai to kratos twn Skopiwn, alla kai th Gioygkoslabia. Xiliades anqrwpoi metakinoyntai ayth thn wra apo tis esties toys. Mia basikh arxh, enas basikos kanonas, leei oti oi prosfyges prepei na bohqoyntai wste na paramenoyn konta stis esties toys. Ara, loipon, mia prwtoboylia poy analambanoyme einai ekeinh, h opoia se syntonismo me tis alles balkanikes xwres, qa odhghsei sto na parameinoyn oi prosfyges oso ginetai pio konta sthn estia toys. Me ayth thn ennoia, prosferoyme bohqeia sto kratos twn Skopiwn kai sto kratos ths Albanias, prokeimenoy toys prosfyges poy ypodexontai na mporoyn na toys periqalcoyn, na toys frontisoyn, wste na apotrapei h metakinhsh toys notiotera pros thn Ellada. Mia, loipon, prwtoboylia einai pros ayth thn kateyqynsh.

Mia allh prwtoboylia afora thn anadeijh toy qematos aytoy ws poly shmantikoy dieqnoys zhthmatos, sto plaisio ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas, idiaiterws ths E. E. Exoyme apeyqynqei stoys ekproswpoys ths xwras mas sthn E. E., enocei ths meqayrianhs synedriashs twn Monimwn Antiproswpwn. Thn Pempth qa synedriasei to COREPEER. Zhtoyme ayto to qema na apasxolhsei thn E. E. ws qema eyrwpaiko, dieqnes, prokeimenoy na lhfqoyn metra gia thn paroxh anqrwpistikhs bohqeias, wste na antimetwpistei to problhma ths metakinhshs twn prosfygwn.

Mia allh bohqeia, thn opoia mporoyme na prosferoyme kai qa thn prosferoyme, exei sxesh me thn epikoinwnia mas, thn parembash mas, thn oikonomikh sthrijh twn plhqysmwn kai twn kybernhsewn sthn perioxh, prokeimenoy na epoylwqoyn oi plhges poy anoijan meta apo ayth thn krish. Na epanelqoyme kai pali se omaloys ryqmoys zwhs me th symfiliwsh twn lawn, thn apokatastash ths kanonikhs zwhs s` ayth thn taragmenh perioxh. Kai bebaiws, eimaste se synennohsh me alles xwres, prokeimenoy na symbaloyme kai emeis, wste na apokatastaqei genikws h hremia sta Balkania. Na anadeixqoyn kai pali ta Balkania ws mia perioxh h opoia anaptyssetai, poy oi laoi ths agwnizontai gia thn eyhmeria, gia na kerdisoyn mia qesh, opws dikaioyntai, sto mellon toys. Na mhn einai ta Balkania mia perioxh h opoia zwnetai apo thn pyrkagia toy polemoy, opws atyxws kai astoxa paroysiazetai se diaforoys xartes. Aytes tis epafes qa tis synexisoyme, se synennohsh me toys symmaxoys mas, se epafh panta eyriskomenoi me tis balkanikes xwres, me tis opoies exoyme anaptyjei idiaiteres diadikasies synergasias. Pisteyoyme oti o krisimos kai xrhsimos rolos ths xwras mas anadeiknyetai olo kai perissotero, ayth thn periodo poy h krish einai se ejelijh, doqentos oti eimaste h monh xwra sthn perioxh poy exei thn idiothta toy meloys ths E. E. kai toy meloys toy NATO, taytoxrona. H Ellada, kata to apwtero kai prosfato parelqon, exei anaptyjei polles prwtoboylies, wste na symbalei s` ayth th balkanikh synergasia, sth sysfijh, dhladh, twn sxesewn metajy twn balkanikwn kratwn, pragma to opoio mas dinei mia dynatothta parembashs, pio ameshs kai apotelesmatikhs, sta problhmata ths perioxhs. Mas dinei th dynatothta na paijoyme enan pio epoikodomhtiko rolo gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn.

Ayta se poly genikes grammes mporw na pw se sxesh me thn prwtoboylia poy analambanoyme se polloys tomeis, idiaiterws gia thn prosfora anqrwpistikhs bohqeias.

MOYRTZHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, protiqetai o Prwqypoyrgos na apeyqynqei me diaggelma ston ellhniko lao, wste se baqos na kanei mia analysh toy qematos; Giati thn enhmerwsh oysiastika thn exoyn analabei orismenoi strathlates-analytes, einai oi gnwstoi "maintanoi" kai exei dhmioyrghqei ena klima poy den nomizw oti einai qetiko kai antiproswpeytiko.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs. Ta politika kommata, epishs, exoyn kanei gnwstes tis qeseis toys. Pisteyw oti eimaste se sygklinoysa kateyqynsh. Sas anakoinwnw oti anamenetai apo ton Proedro ths Boylhs prwtoboylia, meta apo synennohsh me thn kybernhsh, gia th diejagwgh sxetikhs syzhthshs sth Boylh. O Proedros ths Boylhs me th synedriash ayth ths Boylhs, thn opoia o idios einai armodios na anakoinwsei, pisteyw oti dinei th dynatothta ston ellhniko lao na enhmerwqei plhrws gia tis qeseis twn kommatwn ekei. Kai o Prwqypoyrgos kai oi politikoi arxhgoi qa exoyn th dynatothta na anaptyjoyn tis qeseis kai ta epixeirhmata toys gia thn krish poy einai se ejelijh. Alla, kai se alles eykairies, qa exei th dynatothta o Prwqypoyrgos na milhsei gia to qema ayto, opws shmera sth synedriash ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs toy PASOK.

MOYRTZHS: Xqes, o prokaqhmenos ths Orqodojoy Ekklhsias xarakthrise ton Klinton "satana", "daimona", "yferponta fasista"... Symfwneite me aytes tis qeseis;

REPPAS: Emeis den exoyme pei kati tetoio. An htan h qesh mas ayth, qa xrhsimopoioysame aytes tis lejeis. Den qa krinoyme tis qeseis allwn paragontwn ths dhmosias zwhs. Ayto to opoio prepei na poyme einai oti h katastash einai poly sobarh, einai krisimh. Xreiazetai cyxraimia, nhfaliothta kai entash twn prospaqeiwn mas, wste na epityxoyme, to syntomotero dynato, ta arista apotelesmata. Dhladh, thn paysh twn stratiwtikwn aytwn epixeirhsewn kai epidromwn kai thn epanodo se ena kaqestws hremias kai omalothtas sthn perioxh. Se ayth thn kateyqynsh kinoymaste.

MOYRTZHS: Giati kaqysterhsate na anakoinwsete th syzhthsh sth Boylh, na ferete to qema sth Boylh, poy kai o Proedros Klinton phre thn egkrish ths Geroysias kai o Toni Mpler efere to qema sth Boylh twn Koinothtwn kai o Lionel Zospen kai o Masimo Nt' Alema... Emeis, giati kaqysterhsame toso;

REPPAS: Kaqoloy den kaqysterhsame. Pisteyw oti eimaste apolytws epikairoi. Gnwrizete oti thn ebdomada poy perase diejhxqh h Synodos Koryfhs, me poly kala gia thn Ellada apotelesmata, parempiptontws to anaferw kai ayto. Hdh, eimaste se mia nea ebdomada. Pisteyw oti ayrio h meqayrio einai piqano na ginei h syzhthsh ayth. Alla, ayto einai kati to opoio qa to anakoinwsei o Proedros ths Boylhs, meta apo synennohsh me thn kybernhsh kai ta kommata. Einai qema dikhs toy armodiothtas. Ara, eimaste xronika epikairoi gi` ayth th syzhthsh.

SOYRMELH: Ayth th stigmh oi sxeseis Elladas-Hnwmenwn Politeiwn se ti katastash einai meta tis diafores dhlwseis Klinton; Ayto einai to prwto erwthma kai to deytero: Milhsate gia anqrwpistikh bohqeia -to eipate kai xqes, to eixate janapei kai paliotera- sthn Albania, sth "Makedonia" kai twra eipate kai sth Gioygkoslabia. Qa hqela na moy dwsete enan ariqmo ayths ths bohqeias. An katalaba kala, einai dyo oi prwtoboylies: Mia apo pleyras Elladas na bohqhsei tis treis aytes xwres kai mia einai se epipedo COREPEER. An den katalaba me diorqwnete. Se epipedo dikhs sas prospaqeias poso ariqmhtika ekfrazete; To exete skeftei; Ariqmhtika ti posa qa dwsei h Ellada se dimeres epipedo;

REPPAS: Oson afora to prwto, oi sxeseis Hnwmenwn Politeiwn kai Elladas einai poly kales. Einai sxeseis symmaxikes.

Oson afora to deytero, h bohqeia poy protiqemeqa na prosferoyme afora oikonomika posa, ta opoia einai ychla kai pantws ayth thn wra den eimai etoimos na sas dwsw sygkekrimena noymera, den exoyn apofasistei. Miloyme, omws, gia shmantika oikonomika posa ta opoia qa einai arketa, wste na anakoyfistoyn oi plhttomenoi apo thn krish ayth. Epishs, miloyme afenos gia thn paroxh farmakeytikoy kai noshleytikoy ylikoy kai afeteroy mhxanhmatwn kai alloy ejoplismoy, opws einai asqenofora, opws einai mhxanhmata poy einai aparaithta, wste aytes oi xwres xrhsimopoiwntas ta na antimetwpisoyn problhmata poy exoyn prokycei logw ths krishs. Etsi mporw na perigracw poly sygkekrimena th bohqeia poy protiqemeqa na prosferoyme.

H. GSTREIN: Oi prwtoboylies ths Elladas kai ston oikonomiko kai ston eirhneytiko tomea ektos apo toys monimoys antiproswpoys sto Rampoyige etoimazete kai se anwtero epipedo episkeceis ypoyrgwn sta Balkania;

REPPAS: Proxqes o k. Papandreoy dexqhke edw sthn Ellada ton Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Albanias k. Milo. Xqes eixe synanthsh me ton Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn twn Skopiwn k. Dhmhtrof. Prepei na sas pw oti h qesh mas einai safhs, oson afora kai tis dyo xwres. Eimaste sto pleyro toys. Qa kanoyme kaqe ti poy einai xrhsimo, prokeimenoy na symparastaqoyme sthn prospaqeia poy kanoyn na diasfalisoyn to mellon toys. Epiqymoyme na mh diarragei ayth h poly kalh sxesh synergasias poy exoyme. Me thn politikh mas qa yperamynqoyme ths akeraiothtas kai ths asfaleias twn xwrwn aytwn, giati etsi yperamynomaste ths asfaleias sthn eyryterh perioxh.

Oson afora, twra, thn epafh kai thn epikoinwnia me paragontes, peran twn Balkaniwn, prepei na sas pw oti o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, h hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn exei staqerh kai monimh epikoinwnia me ypoyrgoys allwn kybernhsewn, opws me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Italias k. Ntini. O ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn qa epikoinwnhsei epishs me ton k. Bentrin, ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Gallias, me ton k. Ibanof, ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Rwsias. Ana pasa stigmh eimaste etoimoi na prosferoyme tis kales yphresies mas. Eimaste diaqesimoi na anaptyjoyme ki alles sxetikes prwtoboylies poy einai isws xrhsimes, prokeimenoy na symbaloyme sthn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn poy exoyn prokycei.

MPEKATWROY: Strateymata toy NATO pernane akoma apo th Boreia Ellada gia na pane sta Skopia; Kai an pernane, ws ti pernane; Ws xersaies dynameis h ws eirhneytikh dynamh;

REPPAS: Exoyme katasthsei safes oti den prokeitai na diaqesoyme xersaies dynameis, an anaptyxqoyn tetoioy eidoys stratiwtikes epixeirhseis sto edafos ths Gioygkoslabias. Alla, prepei na pw oti kati tetoio to exei apokleisei kai to NATO. Exei, dhladh, katasthsei gnwsto apo thn arxh, oti den prokeitai na anaptyxqoyn drasthriothtes apo xersaies dynameis. Oi dynameis oi opoies perasan apo thn Ellada tis teleytaies hmeres htan dynameis oi opoies den eferan ejoplismo, wste na mporesoyn na laboyn meros se stratiwtikes epixeirhseis. Eferan elafry ejoplismo kai ergo toys htan kai einai na asxolhqoyn me thn perifroyrhsh sthn perioxh twn orwn kai twn proypoqesewn efarmoghs mias politikhs symfwnias gia th lysh toy problhmatos sto Kossyfopedio. Gnwrizete poly kala oti den exei prokycei ayth h symfwnia. Oi dynameis aytes, mporei na pei kapoios oti einai se ena metewro kaqestws, alla pantws, den einai xersaies dynameis oi opoies exoyn th dynatothta na laboyn meros se stratiwtikes epixeirhseis. Ara, loipon, katalhgw, xrhsimopoiwntas th dikh sas frash, einai stratiwtikes dynameis oi opoies xarakthrizontai eirhneytikes h dynameis perifroyrhshs gia thn asfaleia ths perioxhs, gia thn asfaleia twn paragontwn h thn perifroyrhsh kai thn thrhsh twn kanonwn ths symfwnias poy oloi elpizoyme na prokycei, prokeimenoy etsi na antimetwpisoyme thn krish kai ta problhmata ths.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, peran twn ekfrasewn orghs peri enantiwshs twn bombardismwn, oi opoies piqanon einai apoceis olwn twn symmaxwn toy NATO, h Ellada epishmws qetei qema katapayshs toy pyros; Kai an tiqetai, se poio organo tiqetai;

REPPAS: H Ellada ws xwra-melos toy NATO exei diatypwsei th qesh ths sto trapezi twn syzhthsewn apo thn arxh. H qesh ayth exei katagrafei, einai gnwsth kai se kaqe eykairia, sto plaisio twn dimerwn epafwn, h Ellada diatypwnei toys problhmatismoys ths gia to adiejodo sto opoio odhgoymaste me thn anaptyjh aytwn twn periqwriakoy xarakthra prwtoboyliwn. Alla, bebaiws, h Ellada paramenei xwra-melos toy NATO, antapokrinetai stis ypoxrewseis poy aporreoyn apo ayth thn idiothta poy exei. Qa synexisei na ekplhroi aytes tis ypoxrewseis ths kai bebaiws, qa kineitai parallhlws, se synennohsh me toys symmaxoys, enhmerwnontas to dieqnh paragonta, etsi wste na symbalei sthn kalyterh dynath antimetwpish toy qematos. Pisteyoyme sthn epilysh toy problhmatos me politika kai eirhnika mesa.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: H mh symmetoxh ths Elladas sto anwtato dynato epipedo stis epixeirhseis phgazei apo to oti einai enantion, epeidh einai geitonikh xwra h epeidh einai genikotera enantion tetoiwn energeiwn;

REPPAS: Th qesh mas thn kaname safh. H Ellada exei mia idiaiterh qesh, sto plaisio ths Symmaxias, logw toy oti geitniazei me thn perioxh h opoia dokimazetai apo thn krish. Qeloyme na exoyme kales sxeseis me oloys toys boreioys geitones mas. Ayto mas odhgei sto na laboyme ayth th qesh, antapokrinomenoi taytoxronws stis ypoxrewseis mas pros to NATO, symballontas de apo thn allh, stis prospaqeies poy kanei o dieqnhs paragwn -kai den einai mono h Ellada poy kineitai se ayth thn kateyqynsh- gia mia politikh lysh sto problhma poy proekyce.

PASISHS: Eipate prohgoymenws oti o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Papandreoy exei erqei se thlefwnikh epafh me ton omologo toy sthn Italia kai qa milhsei me to Gallo Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn kai me ton antistoixo ths Rwsias. Na ypoqesei kaneis oti h Ellada epidiwkei na sthsei ena metwpo entos toy NATO, me xwres poy den qeloyn toys bombardismoys ths Serbias;

REPPAS: Kaqe allo. H Ellada einai xwra-melos toy NATO kai sebetai toys kanones leitoyrgias ths Symmaxias, opws kai oi alles xwres. Parallhlws, omws h Ellada, sto plaisio ths synergasias ths me alles xwres kai se dimeres epipedo, exei th dynatothta na epikoinwnei, na antallassei apoceis kai etsi na anadeiknyei akomh perissotero kai me pio peistiko tropo thn anagkh mias entonoterhs prospaqeias gia thn ejeyresh politikhs lyshs sto problhma. To ena leitoyrgei symplhrwmatika pros to allo. To ena den apokleiei to allo.

SOYRMELH: Sxetika me ayth thn ekproswphsh twn gioygkoslabikwn symferontwn sth Bonnh kai endexomenws kai sthn Oyasigkton, ti akribws exei ginei; To janaqetw to qema, giati qa hqela na exw thn apoch ths kybernhshs pio synolika.

REPPAS: Pragmati, h kybernhsh ths Gioygkoslabias zhthse apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh, oi dikes mas diplwmatikes arxes, toso sth Germania, oso kai stis Hnwmenes Politeies na ekproswpoyn kai th Gioygkoslabia, meta th diakoph twn diplwmatikwn sxesewn ths Gioygkoslabias me tis xwres aytes. Emeis exoyme ekdhlwsei th diaqesh na analaboyme ayto to rolo. Ejetazoyme pws akribws exei to qema apo thn pleyra twn kanonwn toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy kai ths praktikhs poy akoloyqeitai se aytes tis periptwseis. Alla, bebaiws, h oloklhrwsh aytoy toy qematos den ejartatai mono apo emas. Qa prepei kai oi filojenoyses xwres kai oi arxes toys na poyn to diko toys logo. Sto stadio ayto eimaste twra.

SOYRMELH: Exete thn entypwsh oti qa einai arnhtikh h apoch twn xwrwn aytwn;.

REPPAS: Einai kati to opoio den mporw na eikasw h mporw na eikasw, alla den moy epitrepetai na ekfrasw epishmh qesh ep` aytoy.

Eyxaristw poly.

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