Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-02-10

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 10 Febroyarioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Gia thn atyph Synodo Koryfhs poy qa ginei sth Bonnh, stis 26 Febroyarioy, parakalw ews thn Trith (16.2. 99), epeidh organwnetai dhmosiografikh apostolh, oi endiaferomenoi na dhlwsoyn symmetoxh, prokeimenoy na eimaste organwtika etoimoi. Gia enhmerwsh sas, sas lew akomh oti qa ginei kai deyterh ektakth Synodos Koryfhs stis 24 kai 25 Martioy sto Berolino, enw h taktikh Synodos qa pragmatopoihqei stis 4 kai 5 Ioynioy sthn Kolwnia.

KIAOS: Poio einai ti antikeimeno ths Synodoy Koryfhs;

REPPAS: H Synodos, poy qa ginei sth Bonnh, qa antimetwpisei ta qemata ths "Atzentas 2000".

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh einai eyxaristhmenh poy perilambanetai sto "biblio toy tromoy" toy Dieqnoys Institoytoy Typoy, ws monh xwra apo tis xwres ths E. E. gia thn eleyqerotypia poy den yparxei sthn Ellada;

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, prokalei gelio -kai to dhlwnw ayto me emfash- na isxyrizetai kapoios oti den yparxei eleyqerotypia sthn Ellada. H eleyqerotypia sthn Ellada einai se ychlo epipedo. Oi eidhseis, oi idees, diakinoyntai kai diadidontai xwris kanena empodio. Se polles periptwseis ta MME, qa elega oti leitoyrgoyn peran twn oriwn ths deontologias kai ths kalws nooymenhs antikeimenikhs enhmerwshs. To oti ena Idryma, to opoio exei plhrofories apo mia gnwsth omada anqrwpwn edw sthn Ellada, kanei aytes tis aixmhres anafores gia thn Ellada, qa moy epitrecete na pw, den allazei tipota, oson afora thn pragmatikothta, doqentos oti h shmerinh kybernhsh einai h kybernhsh poy exei katarghsei to nomo peri Typoy. Einai makria h periodos ekeinh poy dieyqyntes efhmeridwn eixan odhghqei sth fylakh. Qymaste poia htan ayth h periodos. H kybernhsh toy PASOK einai h teleytaia poy mporei na kathgorhqei gia epibolh metrwn periorismoy h logokrisias se dhmosiografoys. H teleytaia, oxi mono sthn Ellada, alla h teleytaia sthn E. E. An qelete na syzhthsoyme, sas lew oti sthn Ellada ta Mesa Enhmerwshs leitoyrgoyn xwris kanenan periorismo. Arketoi periorismoi yparxoyn se alles xwres ths E. E. Kai sto biblio anaferontai kai alles xwres ths E. E., opws h Germania kai h Aystria. Eidate poia einai h anafora poy ginetai sthn Ellada. Einai mia anafora, h opoia prokyptei apo thn periptwsiologikh epishmansh kapoiwn dikwn poy exoyn ginei. Qa moy epitrecete na pw, na mh sygxeoyme ayta ta peristatika me thn eleyqerotypia sthn Ellada. Giati, se oles tis xwres ths Eyrwphs, ta adikhmata ths sykofantikhs dysfhmhshs, fer` eipein, diwkontai otan synteloyntai. Ayto ginetai kai sthn Ellada. Den exei kamia sxesh ayto me thn askhsh toy dhmosiografikoy leitoyrghmatos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, gnwrizete oti meta to 1974 einai h monh kybernhsh, h kybernhsh toy k. Shmith, poy askhqhkan dyo fores diwjeis kata dhmosiografwn gia kataskopeia; Meta to 1974 den exei janaginei.

REPPAS: Egw gnwrizw oti einai h monh kybernhsh, poy epi twn hmerwn ths gia osa exoyn gracei oi dhmosiografoi, den exoyn ypostei elegxo, den exoyn ypostei otidhpote, to opoio mporei na odhghsei sto symperasma oti elegxetai h drasthriothta toys kai ypokeintai se periorismoys. Enw, gnwrizw oti thn periodo 1990-1993, dieyqyntes efhmeridwn eixan odhghqei stis fylakes kai gnwrizw oti ayth h kybernhsh katarghse to nomo peri Typoy. To epanalambanw, giati ayto prepei na meinei. Eimaste, isws, h monh xwra sthn Eyrwph poy den exoyme nomo gia ton Typo, epeidh opws leei to Syntagma mas, o Typos einai eleyqeros. Kai o Typos einai eleyqeros.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai epanefere to nomo 375 gia thn kataskopeia....

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, oi diatajeis aytes -to nomiko oplostasio ths xwras- yparxoyn. Mporei, kata periptwsh h kata boylhsh, opoios qewrei oti prepei na tis ajiopoihsei, na tis ajiopoihsei. Oloi oi polites exoyn to dikaiwma na xrhsimopoioyn ta endika mesa poy diaqetoyn. Oloi oi polites exoyn ta idia dikaiwmata. Einai sth dikh toys proswpikh krish na ajiopoihsoyn, me opoiondhpote tropo, ta mesa ayta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pws symbainei oi prohgoymenes kybernhseis na mhn xrhsimopoioyn tetoies diatajeis kai na tis xrhsimopoiei ayth h kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Oi prohgoymenes kybernhseis odhgoysan apeyqeias stis fylakes toys dieyqyntes efhmeridwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, gia kataskopeia eixe askhqei diwjh apo kanenan;

REPPAS: Shmasia exei oti sta kelia twn fylakwn breqhkan dieyqyntes efhmeridwn. Ayto htan mia ntroph kai gia to dhmosiografiko xwro kai gia thn patrida mas. Ayto einai poy exei shmasia. Tetoia fainomena einai poly makria -xronika konta, poly makria politika omws- kai ayto mas kanei na noiwqoyme megalh ikanopoihsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epimenw, gia kataskopeia eixe kathgorhqei apo allh kybernhsh dhmosiografos, ektos ths dikhs sas;

REPPAS: Kamia kybernhsh den kathgorhse kanenan. Den exei lhfqei apofash kybernhtikoy organoy na askhqei diwjh enantion dhmosiografwn. Ayto to gnwrizete. Otan milate gia kybernhsh antilambaneste pws prospaqeite, gia th dhmioyrgia entypwsewn, na kanete ena alma logikhs. Kamia kybernhsh den exei strafei enantion dhmosiografoy, epi twn hmerwn poy kyberna to PASOK.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poies entypwseis kyrie Ypoyrge; Yparxei diwjh. Den tis jerete kai thn prohgoymenh kai twra;

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, oi kybernhseis toy PASOK den exoyn askhsei kamia diwjh. Oi kybernhseis leitoyrgoyn me enan orismeno tropo, exoyn organa, lambanoyn apofaseis, probainoyn se prajeis oi opoies einai apotelesma aytwn twn apofasewn. Otan milate, loipon, gia kybernhsh na pairnete ayto ypoch sas. Apo kei kai pera, kaqe poliths exei ta idia dikaiwmata me to diplano toy. Den yparxoyn polites ayjhmenwn kai polites meiwmenwn dikaiwmatwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai sto "biblio" toy tromoy ypoyrgoi anaferontai gia diwjeis dhmosiografwn. Den einai ths kybernhshs aytoi; Den einai ths kybernhshs sas;

REPPAS: Ayta ta leei to "perifhmo biblio" sto opoio anafereste. Qa elega oti einai mia fwtografia pollwn, to "biblio tromoy", poy anhkoyn kai sth dhmosiografikh oikogeneia, oi opoioi me tropo, o opoios den einai symfwnos kai me ta symferonta ths xwras, polles fores, kanoyn ta reportaz h dhmosieyoyn ta keimena ta opoia epejergazontai. Mporoyme, an qelete, na syzhthsoyme gia th deontologia sto xwro twn MME, polles wres, kai qa to kanw me megalh xara. Eimai sth diaqesh sas. To lew ayto giati eida deltia apo ton toyrkiko Typotis teleytaies hmeres, poy metajy twn allwn -ston toyrkiko Typo- eida na anaparagetai dhmosieyma ellhnikhs efhmeridas, h opoia anaferomenh sto endexomeno ellhnotoyrkikoy polemoy, elege pws "h Ellada qa isopedwqei se 10'-15' apo thn Toyrkia". Ayto anaparagetai me qriambikoys tonoys se efhmerides ths Toyrkias, opoy den yparxei, bebaiws, eleyqeria, yparxoyn periorismoi. Alla den pisteyw oti einai oi periorismoi mono poy odhgoyn s' ayto to apotelesma. Yparxei kai ena allo aisqhma gia to pws kanoyn th doyleia toys oi dhmosiografoi se polles xwres. Den qa deite se efhmerides mias xwras kai sthn Toyrkia, dhmosieymata ta opoia na einai tapeinwtika h ejybristika gia th xwra h gia thn kybernhsh ths xwras, mexri tetoioy shmeioy. Ayto einai kati to opoio epishmainw, me aformh th syzhthsh poy kanoyme. Alla gia ta qemata deontologias mporoyme na syzhtoyme wres kai eimai eyxaristws sth diaqesh sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den einai qema deontologias.

REPPAS: Asfalws einai.

KIAOS: Einai stis skeceis ths kybernhsews na tropopoihqei o nomos, "peri dysfhmisews", "peri sykofantikhs dysfhmisews". Pairnw aformh apo thn ekqesh toy Dieqnoys Institoytoy, gi' ayto rwtaw.

REPPAS: Oi plhrofories aytes poy exei to sygkekrimeno Institoyto, anagontai sthn periodo ekeinh poy eixame syzhthsei kai emeis to qema. Gnwrizete poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs. Paramenoyme s' ayth th qesh. Den antimetwpizoyme tetoio qema allagwn.

KIAOS: Mia dieykrinish s' ayto poy eipate prohgoymenws. Kanate sygkrish kai eipate gia toys dhmosiografoys poy kanoyn th doyleia. Ws dieykrinish giati den to katalaba ayto.

REPPAS: Oi dhmosiografoi kanoyn eleyqera th doyleia toys. Ayto den shmainei oti den qa toys krinoyme emeis poy den eimaste dhmosiografoi. Den einai ektos kritikhs, den einai sto apyroblhto oi dhmosiografoi, Oydeis einai sto apyroblhto. Ayto akribws ennow.

GKOGKAS: Yparxei kapoio sxolio apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh gia thn anakoinwsh toy toyrkikoy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, poy kanei logo metajy allwn gia exqrikh stash ths Ellados apenanti sth Toyrkia, me aformh th bombistikh epiqesh poy egine sthn Komothnh;

REPPAS: H Ellada exei mia stash poy ypagoreyetai apo to symferon ths xwras. Kai eytyxws gia thn Ellada kai oxi mono, to symferon ths xwras to yphretoyme me bash toys kanones toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy. H Toyrkia ta symferonta ths den ta yperaspizetai me bash aytoys toys kanones. Antiqetws, mesw proklhtikwn h apeilhtikwn dhlwsewn kai stasewn, prospaqei na dhmioyrghsei entash metajy Elladas kai Toyrkias. Ayth h epilogh einai aparadekth. Thn antimetwpizoyme me cyxraimia, synesh kai apotelesmatiko tropo. Exoyme apodokimasei me safhneia tetoioy eidoys energeies oi opoies pragmatika einai probokatorikes h stoxeyoyn sto na dhmioyrghsoyn entash anaitiws. Apo kei kai pera, omws, den epitrepetai se opoiondhpote, poly perissotero se ekproswpoys ths Toyrkias, opoy den leitoyrgoyn oi dhmokratikoi qesmoi, opoy den ginontai sebasta ta anqrwpina dikaiwmata, na miloyn san na einai genikoi eisaggeleis kai timhtes. Qa prepei na antimetwpisoyn ta toy oikoy toys kai den to exoyn kanei -den qeloyn, den mporoyn; - kai meta n' asxolhqoyn me alla qemata, ta opoia fainetai oti gia aytoys apoteloyn "terra incognita", mia agnwsth xwra. Giati ston tomea ayto h Ellada exei kanei spoydaia bhmata, enw h Toyrkia einai para poly pisw.

KARGOYDH: Sthn efhmerida "Qessalonikh" dhmosieyontai plhrofories kai anaparagwgh plhroforiwn apo ton topiko Typo ths Qrakhs, symfwna me tis opoies h bombistikh epiqesh kata toy toyrkikoy projeneioy sthn Komothnh exei amesh syndesh me thn katasxesh oplismoy sto forthgo sthn Krystallophgh. Exete eseis kati na peite;

REPPAS: Aytes einai eikasies oi opoies den epibebaiwnontai. Plhrofories polles diakinoyntai. Oi ereynes synexizontai. Otan ekdoqei to porisma, ola ayta qa ta gnwrizoyme me leptomereia. Einai poly prowro na poyme otidhpote ayth thn wra.

KARGOYDH: Den apokleietai pantws ena tetoio endexomeno.

REPPAS: Den exei prokycei. Qelete na proselqw kai egw sto xwro twn ypoqesewn, na kanw kai egw mia ypoqesh; Den mporw na apokleisw tipota, apo thn wra poy den yparxei ena porisma to opoio me safhneia kai kathgorhmatiko tropo na katalhgei sto pws odhghqhkame s' ayto to peristatiko.

Sas eyxaristw.

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