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Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-07-15

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 15 Ioylioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poios Amerikanos stratiwtikos brisketai sthn Ellada kai syzhtaei gia toys S-300;

REPPAS: Sthn Ellada brisketai o ajiwmatoyxos toy NATO, dioikhths ths notias pterygas, antinayarxos Lopez, o opoios qa exei shmera synanthsh me ton Ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas k. Tsoxatzopoylo kai ton Arxhgo toy Genikoy Epiteleioy k. Tzogannh. Qa syzhthsoyn qemata poy aforoyn to NATO, to sxediasmo kai th diejagwgh natoikwn askhsewn. Einai mia synhqismenh episkech, sthn opoia qa syzhthqoyn qemata toy Organismoy. Allos ajiwmatoyxos Amerikanos, den brisketai sthn perioxh mas kai den problepetai tis hmeres aytes, episkech Amerikanoy ajiwmatoyxoy sthn Ellada, o opoios qa exei ayth thn apostolh, dhladh na syzhthsei qemata poy aforoyn to Kypriako kai alla synafh qemata. Exoyme enhmerwqei oti peri to telos toy mhna, to teleytaio dekahmero toy Ioylioy, sto plaisio twn taktikwn episkecewn toy, qa brisketai sthn Ellada o k. Miler, o opoios, opws gnwrizete, einai eidikos apestalmenos gia to Kypriako. Tis hmeres ekeines qa episkefqei thn Kypro kai o k. Xanei, o Bretanos diplwmaths. Den yparxei otidhpote allo, to opoio ayth thn wra na einai se ejelijh, oson afora syzhthseis gia to Kypriako qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, gnwrizete th xqesinh dhlwsh poy egine stis HPA...

REPPAS: Gnwrizw th xqesinh dhlwsh kai sas lew oti mporei na yphrxe tetoios sxediasmos apo thn Kybernhsh twn Hnwmenwn Politeiwn. Telikws, den mas episkeptetai Amerikanos ajiwmatoyxos. Yphrje mia skech na episkefqei thn Ellada o Yfypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas k. Lontar, o opoios telikws apoxwrei apo th qesh toy kai den qa episkefqei thn Ellada. Mporei na yphrje ayth h skech. Den yparxei, omws, episkech Amerikanoy ajiwmatoyxoy, gia to qema ayto, sthn Ellada, aytes tis hmeres.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Lopez den exei qijei to qema twn S-300;

REPPAS: Den exei kamia sxesh me to qema ayto, doqentos oti to qema twn S-300 afora mia apofash, mia epilogh ths Kybernhshs ths Kyproy. H Kypros den einai melos toy NATO, opws gnwrizete. Qa syzhthsei qemata ta opoia aforoyn th sxesh ths Elladas me to NATO. Tipota allo.

KIAOS: Epeidh eipate oti apo th stigmh poy den einai melos toy NATO h Kypros, me th logikh ayth, pws ejhgeite to endiaferon twn HPA na mhn apokthsei h Kypros toys S-300;

REPPAS: Mhn kanete ayth th syndesh. To oti den einai melos toy NATO h Kypros, shmainei oti to NATO den exei, sto plaisio twn armodiothtwn toy, apostoles poy aforoyn thn Kypro. Apo kei kai pera, h E. E., ths opoias epishs den einai melos h Kypros, oi HPA, h Rwsia kai alles xwres, exoyn poikilotropws ekdhlwsei to endiaferon toys na symbaloyn sthn anazhthsh lyshs gia to Kypriako qema, poy einai ena megalo dieqnes problhma. Nomizw oti to endiaferon ayto einai dikaiologhmeno, doqentos oti oi xwres aytes exoyn symferonta sthn eyryterh perioxh kai qeloyn na diasfalisoyn th staqerothta kai thn eirhnh.

KIAOS: Kai dexetai h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh oti oi S-300 sxetizontai me thn prowqhsh ths epilyshs toy Kypriakoy;

REPPAS: To qema twn S-300 apotelei epilogh ths Kypriakhs Kybernhshs, h opoia exei labei th sxetikh apofash. H promhqeia toys egkeitai sto endiaferon poy exei h Kybernhsh ths Kyproy na diasfalisei thn amyna ths Kyproy, h opoia dexetai epiqeseis apo thn politikh ths Toyrkias. H epilogh ayth einai nomimh, einai hqikh, einai logikh kai gi' ayto akribws, prepei na antimetwpistei me ena poly diaforetiko pneyma apo to pneyma me to opoio polloi proseggizoyn to sygkekrimeno qema, idiaiterws h Toyrkia, h opoia ektojeyei synexws apeiles, me aformh thn epilogh ayth ths Kypriakhs Kybernhshs. Den dikaiologeitai ayth h stash, oxi mono ths Toyrkias, alla kai olwn ekeinwn oi opoioi diablepoyn sthn promhqeia twn pyraylwn S-300, mia kinhsh h opoia mporei, kat` aytoys, na odhghsei se peraiterw entash sthn eyryterh perioxh.

FASOYLAS: Apokleiete na yparjei kai allh paratash, oson afora to qema ths egkatastashs;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poia einai h qesh poy exei labei h Kypriakh Kybernhsh. Ekane sxetikes dhlwseis o Proedros k. Klhridhs. Exw pei kai palaiotera kai epanalambanw oti den qa prepei na paradoqoyme se mia "pyraylologia", giati adikoyme thn ypoqesh ths Kyproy, periorizontas th syzhthsh gia to Kypriako zhthma, se syzhthsh gia thn egkatastash twn pyraylwn S-300. Einai ena poly mikro tmhma toy megaloy problhmatos ths Kyproy, to qema ths promhqeias twn pyraylwn, gi' ayto akribws qa prepei otan syzhtoyme gi' ayto to qema na eimaste sygkrathmenoi. Ayto epiqymoyme.

JENAKHS: Yparxei mia anakoinwsh ths Enwshs Dikastwn kai Eisaggelewn poy syndeei tis epiqeseis sta Dikasthria me th diafqora stoys kolpoys ths Astynomias. Ti exete na peite;

REPPAS: Exei kanei sxetikh dhlwsh o k. Giannopoylos, h opoia einai plhrhs. Kalese ton Proedro ths Enwshs Eisaggelewn k. Lymperopoylo kai syzhthse mazi toy to qema. Gnwrizete oti exei ekdwsei anakoinwsh h tromokratikh organwsh, h opoia feretai ws exoysa thn eyqynh gi' ayth th bombistikh epiqesh. H anakoinwsh ths Enwshs Dikastwn kai Eisaggelewn anaferetai se mia ektimhsh thn opoia kanei gia ta qemata ayta. Gnwrizete oti thn prwth mera poy ekdhlwqhke ayth h tromokratikh energeia, ejedwsa anakoinwsh, opoy, metajy allwn, lew oti h Dikaiosynh den prokeitai na aisqanqei fobo kai qa synexisei aperispasta to ergo ths, antapokrinomenh sthn ychlh apostolh ths. Ayto shmainei oti qa prepei h Dikaiosynh na synexisei to ergo ths, xwris opoiesdhpote tetoies energeies na ths dhmioyrgoyn problhmata, anastoles h foboys, prokeimenoy na epitelesei to ergo ths. Exw th gnwmh oti, meta th synanthsh poy eixe o k. Giannopoylos me toys ekproswpoys ths Enwshs Dikastwn kai Eisaggelewn, exei lyqei ayto to qema. Kai qa prepei oloi na eimaste poly pio prosektikoi gi' ayta ta zhthmata, giati dhmioyrgoyntai paranohseis.

MOYRTZHS: Symfwna me dhmosieyma toy ADESMEYTOY TYPOY ths Kyriakhs, kondylia shmantikoy ycoys 153 dis. draxmwn poy symfwna me ton proypologismo toy '97 qa eprepe na eixan diateqei gia thn kalych anagkwn, dioxeteyqhkan telika gia proslhceis kai metatajeis proswpikoy. Shmeiwnw oti apo ta 153 dis. draxmes, ta 100 apoteloysan kondylia gia ektaktes anagkes poy bebaiws prepei na dapanwntai, efoson paroysiazontai aytes oi anagkes. Telika, omws, dioxeteyqhkan gia proslhceis kai metatajeis. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, h diaxeirish twn oikonomikwn porwn ginetai me apolyth synepeia pros ton proypologismo poy exoyme ejaggeilei kai chfisei. Epeita, gnwrizete poly kala oti h diadikasia twn metatajewn exei pagwsei sto dhmosio kai ston eyrytero dhmosio tomea. Proslhceis den ginontai, para mono se ektaktes peristaseis gia thn proslhch epoxikoy proswpikoy. Ola ayta den dikaiologoyn tetoioy eidoys kathgories. An exete kapoia sygkekrimena stoixeia, parakalw na apeyqynqeite armodiws.

MOYRTZHS: To apokalyptei prosfath ekqesh toy Genikoy Logisthrioy toy Kratoys.

REPPAS: Na apeyqynqeite sto armodio Ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn. Den exoyn ginei proslhceis, den exoyn ginei metatajeis oi opoies na exoyn aporrofhsei tosa megala posa. H diaxeirish ginetai symfwna me ta osa problepei o proypologismos. Stis ektaktes anagkes gia tis opoies exoyn programmatistei sygkekrimena kondylia, prepei na diatiqentai ta kondylia ayta. Ayto ginetai.

KARASABBA: Hqela mia dieykrinish. Exei teqei epishmws apo thn amerikanikh pleyra h promhqeia, anti twn S-300, twn pyraylwn SA 15; Kai pws antidra h ellhnikh Kybernhsh. ;

REPPAS: Ta qemata ta opoia aforoyn toys ejoplismoys gia tis anagkes ths eqnikhs mas amynas ta xeirizetai kata armodiothta to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas. Tis apofaseis lambanei to Kybernhtiko Symboylio Ejwterikwn kai Amynas, to gnwsto KYSEA. Ara, loipon, qa anamenete tis apofaseis toy KYSEA gia to ejoplistiko mas programma. Giati antilambaneste poly kala oti oi syzhthseis poy eixe o k. Tsoxatzopoylos stis HPA, kata kyrio logo, aforoysan to ejoplistiko programma twn Enoplwn Dynamewn ths xwras mas. Oson afora twra ta qemata ta opoia aforoyn ton ejoplismo ths Kyproy, prokeimenoy na diasfalisei thn amyna ths, ta xeirizetai h Kypriakh Kybernhsh. Den exoyme emeis opoiadhpote emplokh.

KARASABBA: Dhladh, an prowqhqei h protash gia neo "no fly zone" qa ekleicei to Eniaio Amyntiko Dogma Elladas-Kyproy;

REPPAS: Giati na kanoyme mia ypoqesh; Eseis gnwrizete poly kala oti exoyme ws qesh arxhs, metajy twn allwn, thn apostratikopoihsh toy nhsioy. An symbaloyn oles oi pleyres, wste na yparjei proodos ston tomea ths apostratikopoihshs, tote dhmioyrgoyntai nees synqhkes. S` aytes tis nees synqhkes qa einai para poly eykolo oles oi pleyres na ektimhsoyn kai pali th qesh toys. Aytes oi nees synqhkes, omws, den fainetai na einai poly konta. Giati h Toyrkia threi mia apolyta arnhtikh stash sto qema ths apostratikopoihshs toy nhsioy. Gi` ayto, akribws, apodokimazoyme th stash ayth.

PODHMATA: Xqes, o amerikanos ajiwmatoyxos kalese thn Ellada kai thn Toyrkia na apofasisoyn na anasteiloyn tis yperpthseis panw apo thn Kypro, etsi wste na mhn xreiazetai h egkatastash toy rwsikoy antiaeroporikoy systhmatos. Exete kapoio sxolio ep` aytoy;

REPPAS: Emeis exoyme diatypwsei plhreis protaseis, oi opoies odhgoyn sth dhmioyrgia synqhkwn hremias sthn eyryterh perioxh, epeidh prowqoyn thn apostratikopoihsh toy nhsioy. H Toyrkia, dystyxws, ayjanei tis stratiwtikes dynameis ths sthn perioxh, prosferontas mia arnhtikh yphresia s` ayth thn ypoqesh ths diasfalishs ths eirhnhs kai ths staqerothtas. H protash poy exei kanei h ellhnikh Kybernhsh gia th dhmioyrgia mias zwnhs apagoreyshs pthsewn, qa prepei na ejetastei me synesh ap` oles tis pleyres. Kai qa prepei, efoson ginei dekth, na qewrhqei oti apotelei ena prwto bhma sthn kateyqynsh ths apostratikopoihshs. Pragma to opoio emeis eynooyme kai elpizoyme oti mporei na ginei efikto.

SOYRMELIDHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, an h xqesinh amerikanikh protash ikanopoiei ta krithria poy qetei h Kybernhsh gia na mhn pane oi S-300 sthn Kypro;

REPPAS: Exoyme diatypwsei mia basikh qesh. Ayth h idea, dystyxws, den ginetai dekth. Antilambaneste pws den mporoyme, mesw mias diadikasias synexwn ekptwsewn, na kanoyme ypoqeseis, na kanoyme ektimhseis oi opoies den katalhgoyn sthn epiteyjh toy stoxoy poy exoyme qesei. Stoxos mas einai h eirhnh, h staqerothta kai h asfaleia sthn perioxh. Pisteyoyme oti h apostratikopoihsh toy nhsioy odhgei s` ayto to stoxo, mas fernei poly konta gia na epityxoyme ayto to stoxo. Oles oi protaseis oi opoies diatypwnontai sthn kateyqynsh ths apostratikopoihshs mporei na syzhthqoyn kai na ginoyn dektes. Protaseis oi opoies odhgoyn apla kai mono sthn epikalych mias pragmatikothtas, poy synistatai afenos sthn katoxh toy nhsioy kai afeteroy sthn proklhtikh stash ths Toyrkias. Oi protaseis aytes, qa moy epitrecete na pw, apoteloyn mia aplh aspirinh, ws antidoto se ena megalo problhma. To problhma gia na antimetwpistei xreiazetai tolmh, xreiazetai isxyrh boylhsh, xreiazetai na deijoyn pragmatiko kai eilikrines endiaferon oles oi pleyres, poy lene oti epiqymoyn lysh toy Kypriakoy problhmatos. Kai qa deijoyn endiaferon, an epidiwjoyn th lysh toy Kypriakoy problhmatos, metajy twn allwn, me to na odhghsoyn sthn aposyrsh twn stratiwtikwn dynamewn kai twn ejoplismwn ap` olo to nhsi. Ayth einai h swsth kateyqynsh. Kai ayth mexri twra den fainetai na apotelei th grammh pleyshs, oswn diatypwnoyn protaseis san ki ayth poy ki eseis symperilabate sthn erwthsh sas.

MIXAHL: Hqela na rwthsw, h Kybernhsh ti skopeyei na kanei meta apo to aithma ths Komision na epanejetasei to plaisio twn programmatikwn symbasewn poy ekanan oi dhmosies epixeirhseis kai organismoi me idiwtikes etairies;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti me thn koinotikh odhgia 93/98 h Ellada, apo thn 1.1.1998, exei thn ypoxrewsh, opws kai oi alles xwres ths E. E., na prokhryssei dieqneis diagwnismoys, prokeimenoy en synexeia na synaptei symbaseis to Dhmosio h oi foreis, oi organismoi toy Dhmosioy, me megales idiwtikes epixeirhseis. Mexri to telos toy ' 97 eixame th dynatothta ths anaqeshs tetoiwn drasthriothtwn se idiwtikoys foreis me diafaneis diadikasies, bebaiws, me anoixtes dhmosieyseis. H diadikasia ayth akoloyqhqhke kai sas qymizw oti xairetisthke apo oles tis pleyres, giati metajy twn allwn, stoxeye sthn ajiopoihsh aytoy toy dikaiwmatos poy eixame ews to telos toy 1997, gia thn enisxysh ths egxwrias paragwghs. Dystyxws, h Nea Dhmokratia einai ayth h opoia anakinhse to qema. H N. D. me diko ths stelexos efere to qema sthn E. E. kai h antidrash ayth ths E. E. exei thn afethria ths s` ayth thn kataggelia poy diatypwqhke prwta apo thn pleyra ths N. D., h opoia fainetai den qelei to kalo ths ellhnikhs oikonomias h den qelei na bohqhqoyn ellhnikes epixeirhseis, prokeimenoy na tonwqei h egxwria paragwgh. Einai mia synhqismenh diadikasia ayth poy akoloyqeitai. Emeis prajame symfwna me ta osa problepoyn oi koinotikes odhgies. Nomizw oti h diadikasia ayth ths ereynas, apo thn pleyra ths E. E. qa oloklhrwqei to syntomotero dynato, gia na ginei fanero oti ola eginan kata tropo, o opoios einai symfwnos me to koinotiko dikaio kai ta osa eixame th dynatothta, mexri to telos toy 1997, na kanoyme ws xwra. Den yparxei kapoia paratyph energeia. Kai pisteyoyme oti o elegxos o opoios ginetai, otan oloklhrwqei, qa to apodeijei.

MIXAHL: Xwris na qelw na mpw se leptomereies, qelw na sas rwthsw to ejhs: Oi aitiaseis poy, estw me kataggelia apo thn pleyra ths N. D., eginan aforoyn toso ton tropo poy eginan oi programmatikes aytes symbaseis, oso kai to ycos toys, se orismenes periptwseis. H Kybernhsh, loipon, epeidh den einai qema mono kalhs h kakhs symfwnias, einai qema politikhs boylhshs, ti protiqetai na kanei, etsi wste na mh dhmioyrghqei h paramikrh ypocia oti aytes den eixan ginei me ton tropo poy hqele kai h Komision.

REPPAS: Ma, h ypocia den dhmioyrghqhke, para mono se stelexh ths N. D. Epanalambanw oti oloi oi foreis xairethsan aytes tis apofaseis kai tis symfwnies oi opoies eginan ekeinh thn periodo. H Kybernhsh epraje symfwna me to xreos poy eixe na yphrethsei to dhmosio symferon kai thn eqnikh oikonomia kai na enisxysei thn egxwria paragwgh. Den exoyme kanei kati paratypo, oson afora to eidos h kai to ycos ths ajias twn symbasewn aytwn. Ayta einai lymena qemata. Einai mia poly synhqismenh diadikasia, h opoia ginetai se para polles analoges periptwseis, otan diatypwnetai mia kataggelia. H kataggelia ayth ejetazetai apo ta Organa ths E. E. Otan oloklhrwqei, epanalambanw, o elegxos, qa apodeixqei oti den yparxei kanena qema. Den exoyme kanena logo na apologoymeqa gia kati poy qewroyme oti einai apolyta orqo. Antiqetws, kakizoyme ekeinoys oi opoioi, prokeimenoy na kathgorhsoyn thn Kybernhsh, den distazoyn na fqasoyn mexri toy shmeioy ekeinoy na blacoyn, ypo mia ennoia, ta eqnika symferonta.

KIAOS: Qa hqela na epanelqw, se synexeia xqesinhs apanthshs, poy eixate parapemcei ston OTE sxetika me tis kathgories diatypwqhkan apo thn ELEYQEROTYPIA gia tis diafhmiseis. Epeidh pali askeitai kritikh kai epeidh paratiqentai kapoioi alloi pinakes, se sxesh m' aytoys poy eixate dwsei eseis kai epeidh pali egkaleitai o Organismos gia ena xroniko diasthma, Maio - Ioynio klp., se sxesh m' aytes tis diafhmiseis - kataxwrhseis oi opoies einai mikres, opws lene h apokleiontai efhmerides epeidh askhqhke kritikh. Ti apantate s' ayto to pragma; Kai taytoxrona ti apantate stis aitiaseis twn kommatwn -ths Neas Dhmokratias, toy Synaspismoy kai toy DHKKI- poy miloyn gia paniko gia alazoneia kai tetoia pragmata, apo pleyras kybernhsews h dhmosiwn organismwn;

REPPAS: Prwta ap' ola, qelw na tonisw oti den einai kai poly orqh antidrash, diaforoi foreis kai politika kommata na ektojeyoyn kataggelies xwris na gnwrizoyn to qema me plhreis leptomereies, tis opoies prepei kapoios na katexei prokeimenoy na exei mia safh qesh. To idio diapistwnw oti ginetai oson afora kai tis programmatikes symbaseis gia tis opoies milhsame molis prin, opoy eida diaforoi na diatypwnoyn kataggelies, xwris na gnwrizoyn pws akribws exei to qema. Sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh twra, pragmati diatypwnontai kathgories enantion ths Kybernhshs, me tis anakoinwseis twn diaforwn kommatwn. Kai oi kathgories diatypwnontai mesa apo thn idia thn efhmerida, thn ELEYQEROTYPIA. Qa moy epitrecete na kanw mia genikh anafora, epanerxomenos sto qema, gia ola ayta kai na pw ta ejhs: Prwta ap' ola xqes -kai den dhmosieythke ayto shmera sthn ELEYQEROTYPIA, dhmosieyetai mono sthn HMERHSIA oloklhrh h topoqethsh moy- eipa oti "oi dhmosioi Organismoi prokeimenoy na probaloyn ta proionta kai tis yphresies poy parexoyn stoys polites, antimetwpizoyn me pneyma ishs metaxeirishs ola ta Mesa Enhmerwshs. Den einai dynaton na yparxei politikh apokleismwn, gia opoiodhpote logo. Allwste, ayto qa apebaine se baros ths prospaqeias twn organismwn toy Dhmosioy na diafhmisoyn tis yphresies toys. Den dikaiologeitai, loipon, opoiadhpote tetoia kathgoria". H qesh ths Kybernhshs einai safhs. Oxi monon den eynoei ton apokleismo, alla ton apodokimazei. Ton apokleiei ton apokleismo. Giati ayto apobainei se baros twn symferontwn enos dhmosioy Organismoy, poy qelei na probalei ta proionta h tis yphresies poy parexei stoys polites-katanalwtes. Oson afora to sygkekrimeno qema, nomizw, oti einai adikh h kathgoria kai kata toy k. Xrysoloyrh oti einai asystoles oi meqodeyseis toy, giati apo poyqena den prokyptei oti exei kanei meqodeyseis o k. Xrysoloyrhs. Oi diafhmistikes etaireies me tis opoies synergazetai kaqe organismos, katastrwnoyn ena diafhmistiko plano to opoio akoloyqeitai se aytes tis periptwseis. Kai qa moy epitrecete na pw, epishs, oti einai adiko ayto to opoio grafei h kalh efhmerida, oti egw epiteqhka kata ths ELEYQEROTYPIAS. Isa-isa, eipa oti den dikaiologeitai opoiosdhpote apokleismos. Ayto einai epiqesh; Einai synhgoria, otan lew oti den einai dynaton mia megalh efhmerida na apokleistei apo ena diafhmistiko programma. Giati ayto apobainei se baros toy organismoy kai oxi se baros ths efhmeridas. Den anaferetai, epishs, metajy twn stoixeiwn ta opoia dhmosieyontai, mia paraggelia poy exei h ELEYQEROTYPIA apo ton OTE, paraggelia h opoia ths doqhke stis 3 Ioylioy -meta dhladh thn 30h Ioynioy- gia dhmosieysh h opoia prokeitai na ginei stis 19 Ioylioy, se 4 hmeres apo shmera, me ycos dapanhs 2.999.000 draxmes. Anaferw ayto to xarakthristiko stoixeio gia na epanalabw oti den prokyptei opoiadhpote politikh apokleismoy. Qa prepei, loipon, para to oti bebaiws o kaqenas exei tis dikes toy apoceis gia to pws prepei na anaptyssetai h diafhmistikh kampania enos organismoy, na eimaste perissotero prosektikoi otan diatypwnoyme kathgories kai malista otan xrewnoyme me kakh proqesh paragontes toy dhmosioy bioy. Pisteyw oti ayth h "dikh" proqesewn den exei qesh en prokeimenw. Kai prepei na pw -kai kleinw etsi gia na mh sas koyrazw, giati polla mporw na pw gia to sygkekrimeno qema- oti h politikh ths Kybernhshs toy PASOK gia thn enisxysh toy Typoy, einai dedomenh. Gia prwth fora exoyn analhfqei prwtoboylies apo thn politikh ejoysia prokeimenoy na enisxyqei o Typos. Toso o Nomos 2328, oso kai ta proedrika diatagmata poy eixa thn tyxh kai th xara na ekdwsw (to 261/97 kai to 60/97, gia thn kratikh diafhmish) dieykolynoyn sto na dioxeteyontai ston Typo megala xrhmatika posa gia th diafhmish organismwn toy dhmosioy. Ta stoixeia ayta ta exw sth diaqesh sas, gia na deite oti exei ginei mia poly shmantikh doyleia gia na enisxyqei o Typos. Qa hqela, loipon, na eimaste oloi poly pio prosektikoi. Egw antilambanomai oti kaqenas exei tis apoceis toy, alla ayto to opoio den mporw na dextw einai oti mporoyme eykola na kanoyme "dikh" proqesewn. Briskw oti ayto einai pera apo toys kanones enos paixnidioy, poy prepei na ginetai me diadikasies antikeimenikes, diafaneis kai panw apo ola me koinh logikh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti eiste enantion ths logikhs twn apokleismwn. To pisteyete ayto to pragma;

REPPAS: To pisteyw apolytws. Kai apodeijh aytoy einai oti oyte egw ws Ypoyrgos oyte epikefalhs twn Organismwn, exoyme kanei otidhpote to opoio na einai ejw apo thn protash poy kanoyn oi idies oi diafhmistikes etaireies me tis opoies synergazontai oi Organismoi, prokeimenoy na anaptyjoyn th diafhmistikh ekstrateia toys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ma aytoi dinoyn entoles stis diafhmistikes etaireies poy qa dwsoyn diafhmiseis kai exoyn apokleisei polles efhmerides. Gi' ayto lew gia apokleismoys.

REPPAS: Gi 'ayto akribws ke Stamatopoyle, epanerxomai egw kai sas parapemw sto Proedriko diatagma 261/97...

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti na to kanw to Proedriko Diatagma;

REPPAS:... opoy poly sygkekrimena diatypwnoyme th diadikasia, h opoia prepei na akoloyqhqei, opws kai ta krithria poy prepei na lambanontai ypoch -kai ta krithria gia prwth fora diatypwnontai me tetoia safhneia se mia kanonistikh prajh- prokeimenoy na ginetai h kratikh diafhmish, h diafhmish twn dhmosiwn organismwn. Pragma to opoio mexri protinos ginotan kata tropo ayqaireto, giati den yphrxe safes qesmiko plaisio. Edw yparxei, pleon, plaisio. Kai opoios qewrei oti qigetai, mporei na ajiopoihsei ayto to plaisio kai na odhghsei ayton o opoios to parabainei, ston eisaggelea. Giati oxi; Emeis parakoloyqoyme, sto metro toy dynatoy, to pws ejelissetai to diafhmistiko programma twn organismwn toy dhmosioy. Kai qelw na pisteyw, apo ta stoixeia poy exoyme sth diaqesh mas -exoyn dhmosieytei allwste stis efhmerides- oti h katastash yper toy Typoy, einai poly kalyterh, ap' oti sto prosfato parelqon, opoy ta hlektronika Mesa Enhmerwshs eixan aporrofhsei th syntriptika megalh pleiochfia ths diafhmistikhs kampanias toy dhmosioy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yper meridas toy Typoy, qelete na peite.

REPPAS: Oxi, ke Stamatopoyle. Qelw na pisteyw oti, kat' analogia, oloi oi organismoi toy dhmosioy exoyn logo na diafhmizoyn tis yphresies toys se ola ta entypa, eqnikhs h perifereiakhs kykloforias, genikoy periexomenoy h qematika entypa kai katalhgoyn s' aythn thn diafhmistikh kampania, sto diafhmistiko programma, meta th synergasia poy exoyn me tis diafhmistikes etaireies.

MOYRTZHS: Na gyrisoyme stis programmatikes symbaseis. H Kybernhsh exei systhsei kapoion elegktiko mhxanismo, me ton opoio na parakoloyqei an to teliko proion twn programmatikwn symbasewn paragetai sthn Ellada; Dedomenoy oti yparxoyn plhrofories pws orismenes etaireies den exoyn thn texnognwsia ekeinh kai aplws synarmologoyn kommatia ths symbashs. Opws yparxoyn kai alles plhrofories oti orismena proionta ginontai "fason" se xwres ths Anatolikhs Eyrwphs.

REPPAS: Kaqe organismos toy dhmosioy, kaqe DEKO, exei thn eyqynh na parakoloyqei pws efarmozetai h programmatikh symbash poy exei synacei me ena idiwtiko organismo. Oi idiwtikoi foreis prepei na antapokriqoyn stoys oroys ths symbashs. Ayto elegxetai. Kai oi oroi ths symbashs desmeyoyn tis idiwtikes epixeirhseis gia tis ypoxrewseis tis opoies analambanoyn wste na mh dikaiologeitai aytos o fobos. Para tayta, an pragmatika yparxoyn sygkekrimena stoixeia qa prepei na tiqentai ypoch twn organismwn toy dhmosioy, prokeimenoy na lambanontai metra, an xreiazetai na lhfqoyn kapoia metra. Alla, genikws den prepei na dysfhmoyme ayto to programma twn symbasewn, to opoio apobainei yper ths egxwrias paragwghs. Kai ayto einai kati poy den prepei na to parablecoyme.

JENAKHS: Xqes, eixame mia diarrhjh sto spiti toy boyleyth ths N. D., toy k. Giakoymatoy. Ekane kapoies dhlwseis o k. Giakoymatos. Metajy allwn - an den eiste enhmeros-exei pei oti thn epomenh fora poy qa apeilhqei h oikogeneia toy qa pyrobolhsei ton Ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs kai an xreiastei kai mesa sth Boylh.

REPPAS: Nomizw oti ayth h logikh toy "passalos passalw ekroyetai", poy kapote htan dekth, den prepei na mas diakrinei. Diafwnw me mia tetoia qesh. Exei th sympaqeia mas o k. Giakoymatos, giati egine qyma mias epiqeshs, thn opoia apodokimazoyme. Den qa prepei, omws, enas politikos, enas boyleyths, na stelnei ena tetoio mhnyma stoys polites, oti o idios qa aytodikhsei kai malista enantion anqrwpwn, poy einai fanero oti den exoyn opoiadhpote sxesh. Qa prepei, loipon, na eimaste poly pio semnoi kai poly pio synetoi.

Sas eyxaristw poly.


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