Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-04-14

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna,14.4.1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TO GENIKO GRAMMATEA ENHMERWSHS GIANNH NIKOLAOY

Geia sas,

Opws gnwrizete o Ypoyrgos Typoy & Meswn Mazikhs Enhmerwshs k. Reppas brisketai se apostolh sth Boylgaria, epikefalhs ths opoias einai o Prwqypoyrgos. Symmetexoyn, epishs, o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Pagkalos, h Ypoyrgos Anaptyjhs ka Basw Papandreoy kai o Yfypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias k. Mpaltas. H apostolh brisketai sth Sofia gia epishmes synomilies me th boylgarikh Kybernhsh.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na moy peite gia tis proeidopoihseis poy exei kanei o k. Zaxarakhs sthn ellhnikh Kybernhsh kai sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, ean prokeitai na tis efarmosei kai an exei kapoies pieseis h ellhnikh Kybernhsh, meta th dhmosieysh, apo thn amerikanikh;

NIKOLAOY: Prepei na gnwrizete, kai to gnwrizete asfalws, oti gia yphresiaka keimena, poy malista exoyn th morfh toy aporrhtoy, den mporei na ginei dhmosia syzhthsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apo th stigmh poy bghkan, omws, sth dhmosiothta;

NIKOLAOY: Gia mas paramenoyn yphresiaka aporrhta keimena. Kai gia yphresiaka aporrhta keimena den mporei na ginei dhmosia syzhthsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, oi proeidopoihseis poy kanei o k. Zaxarakhs den lambanontai ypoch, den qa apanthqoyn; Kati den mporeite na peite s' ayto;

NIKOLAOY: Qa epanalabw to idio. Gia yphresiaka aporrhta keimena den qa anoijoyme dialogo.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: O k. Zaxarakhs kanei safeis anafores oti to Steht Ntipartment meqodeyei "formoyla" anagnwrishs toy ceydokratoys, enocei malista kai twn diadikasiwn syzhthshs... H ellhnikh Kybernhsh ti kanei;

NIKOLAOY: Na kanw enan diaxwrismo. Sto prwto skelos ths epishmanshs sas s' o,ti afora to eggrafo, isxyei h apanthsh poy edwsa prin sthn erwthsh toy k. Stamatopoyloy, oti den syzhtoyme dhmosia epi yphresiakwn eggrafwn. Twra, oson afora ta alla -mh sxetizomenh h apanthsh moy ayth me to eggrafo- sta genikotera qemata poy yparxoyn emeis, opws gnwrizete, ws ellhnikh Kybernhsh exoyme staqeres kai pagies qeseis. Den exoyme ypoch mas kanenos eidoys tetoia prwtoboylia h kapoia tetoia kinhsh. Ola ta antimetwpizoyme me bash tis pagies qeseis mas. Den yparxei kati kainoyrgio.

KIAOS: Ean epikoinwnhsan o Prwqypoyrgos kai h ka Papandreoy kai ean doqhkan dieykriniseis sxetika me to poioys ennoei h ka Papandreoy "karagkiozhdes" h "qeatro skiwn" ek meroys toy periballontos toy Prwqypoyrgoy h oxi. Mporeite na mas ejhghsete;

NIKOLAOY: H ka Papandreoy, opws gnwrizete, synomilei taktika, kai gia para polla qemata me ton Prwqypoyrgo. H ka Papandreoy symmetexei sthn Politikh Grammateia, sto Ektelestiko Grafeio, sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph. Syzhtoyn taktika. Eixan thn eykairia na synomilhsoyn kai xqes kata th diarkeia ths syskechs poy egine enocei ths shmerinhs episkechs kybernhtikoy klimakioy, me epikefalhs ton Prwqypoyrgo, sth Sofia. Den yparxei kanena qema gia thn Kybernhsh.

KIAOS: Eseis, mporeite na mas dieykrinisete poy brisketai to "qeatro twn skiwn", poy briskontai oi "karagkiozhdes" kai en pash periptwsei na katalaboyme ki emeis poy briskomaste;

NIKOLAOY: Den yparxei kanena qema gia thn Kybernhsh. Apolytws kanena qema.

KIAOS: "Qema" otan lete...

NIKOLAOY: Ennow se sxesh me ayta poy egrafhsan ston Typo kai eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas tis teleytaies hmeres, gia thn Kybernhsh den yparxei kanena apolytws qema. Allwste prepei na sas qymisw oti h Kybernhsh den asxoleitai me parapolitikh, asxoleitai me politikh. H parapolitikh "kyklwn" h allwn gewmetrikwn sxhmatwn den afora thn Kybernhsh. Den yparxei qema gia thn Kybernhsh.

KIAOS: Mhpws mporeite na mas peite akribws sth synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy ti eipe h ka Papandreoy kai ti ths aphnthse o Prwqypoyrgos h alloi Ypoyrgoi, epeidh egrafhsan pragmata;

NIKOLAOY: Kat' arxhn nomizw oti gi ayto to qema arxikws apanthse o k. Reppas, thn hmera ekeinh.

KIAOS: Den rwthqhke gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

NIKOLAOY: Ekane, omws, sxetikh dhlwsh. Eide to fws ths dhmosiothtas. Den nomizw oti prepei na epanelqoyme sto qema. Nomizw oti einai eparkhs h topoqethsh mas oti den yfistatai kanena qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Reppas den eipe tipota gia thn ka Papandreoy, ekeinh thn hmera poy ekane tis anakoinwseis. Den eipe kan oti elabe to logo h ka Papandreoy. Den mas eipe tipota sthn enhmerwsh poy ekane, oyte oti ekane kapoia kritikh, den mas eipe tipota. .

NIKOLAOY: En pash periptwsei mporoyme na krathsoyme shmera to gegonos, oti me to sygkekrimeno qema h Kybernhsh den asxoleitai.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla na xarakthrizei to Majimoy san "qeatro Skiwn" einai kalo gia thn Kybernhsh.

NIKOLAOY: Kaneis den xarakthrizei tipota.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den to diabasate;.

NIKOLAOY: Milaw gia o,ti isxyei kai oxi gia o,ti diabazoyme. Kaneis den xarakthrise kanenan. Den yparxei kanena qema gia thn Kybernhsh. Exei teleiwsei to qema.

MOYRTZHS: H ka Papandreoy, dhladh, mia kai eixate kai mia synomilia mazi ths, apokhryttei to qema...

NIKOLAOY: Den eixa egw synomilia mazi ths. Eipa oti synomilhse me ton Prwqypoyrgo.

MOYRTZHS: Apokhryttei to qema peri "karagkiozhdwn" kai "qeatroy Skiwn"; Dhladh, den proerxetai apo to politiko ths grafeio ayth h anafora;

NIKOLAOY: Opws sas eipa, h enasxolhsh mas einai me ta politika qemata ths xwras kai oxi me ta parapolitika. Kai nomizw oti prepei na meinoyme edw. To qema gia mas qewreitai lhjan.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, h ka Papandreoy sth synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy askhse kritikh h telos pantwn epishmane oti den eginan kaloi xeirismoi apo kybernhtika stelexh sthn istoria ths Olympiakhs;

NIKOLAOY: Den hmoyn parwn sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Ej oswn gnwrizw h ka Papandreoy phre to logo, opws phran to logo kai polla alla melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy kai sxoliasan orismena qemata ths trexoysas politikhs poy askei h Kybernhsh. Den yphrje kapoio idiaitero problhma sthn Kybernhsh apo opoiadhpote dhlwsh, opoioydhpote kybernhtikoy stelexoys.

MIXAHL: Mporw na sas zhthsw kai parakalw poly na perilhfqei sta praktika, na epibebaiwsete me thn ka Papandreoy h me opoiondhpote allon, ti anefere sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, an anefere ayto poy sas rwthsa kai na mas to peite ayrio;

NIKOLAOY: Qa to kanw, eyxaristws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Lete oti h enasxolhsh sas einai me ta politika kai oxi me ta parapolitika. H ka Papandreoy, asxoleitai me ta parapolitika mono;

NIKOLAOY: H ka Papandreoy asxoleitai me thn politikh se ena poly eyaisqhto tomea ths kybernhtikhs politikhs kai "ta paei mia xara".

STAMATOPOYLOS: Otan dioxeteyetai apo to grafeio ths ayto, den einai parapolitikh opws lete;

NIKOLAOY: Parapolitikh einai, peripoy, h syzhthsh poy kanoyme shmera poy asxoleitai me qemata poy aforoyn, opws eipa kai prin, "kykloys" kai alla gewmetrika sxhmata. Emeis asxoloymaste me thn politikh ths Kybernhshs, h opoia exei hdh epityxei para polla pragmata kai para polla problhmata na epilysei. Kai ayto einai to qema me to opoio asxoloymaste.

KIAOS: An epitrepete, epeidh eipate oti asxoloymaste emeis me thn parapolitikh...

NIKOLAOY: Den eipa "eseis". Den me katalabate. Kai egw asxoloymai, afoy oloi mazi syzhtoyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla einai ena gegonos ayth h syzhthsh poy kanoyme shmera.

KIAOS: Einai pragmata poy dhmosieyqhkan stis efhmerides, poy metadoqhkan apo ta radiofwna. Sygkekrimena, -opws eipe o synadelfos- "to grafeio ths kas Papandreoy..."Einai apla pragmata.

NIKOLAOY: Opws jerete k. Kiao, polles fores, anamesa se ayto poy legetai kai s' ayto poy grafetai, yparxei kapoia apostash. Ayto den anairei thn eyqynh gi' ayta poy legontai. Ayto poy qelw na pw egw einai oti to qema gia thn Kybernhsh exei teleiwsei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eseis qewreite oti den doqhke ayto apo to grafeio ths kas Papandreoy;

NIKOLAOY: Qewrw oti to qema exei teleiwsei.

GARGALAKOS: Syzhthqhke ayto "to qema poy exei teleiwsei", shmera, poy syntajideysan o k. Shmiths me thn ka Papandreoy;

NIKOLAOY: Shmera poy syntajideysan den gnwrizw. Jerw oti syzhthqhke xqes, metajy toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ths kas Papandreoy kai diapistwqhke oti den yparxei kanena qema.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Sthn "atzenta" twn qematwn sth Boylgaria, einai kai to Skopiano;

NIKOLAOY: Oxi, bebaia.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Ti akribws einai;

NIKOLAOY: Qa mporoysa poly genika na pw oti einai to synolo twn qematwn poy aforoyn tis dyo xwres. Kai einai poly shmantikh h episkech, giati exoyme poly kales sxeseis me th Boylgaria kai arketa endiaferonta qemata na syzhthsoyme. Qa parakaloysa, omws, epeidh yparxei enhmerwsh ekei apo ton Prwqypoyrgo kai ton k. Reppa, na mhn asxolhqoyme emeis, edw, me ta qemata ayta.

Sas eyxaristw.

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