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BRIEFING 22-04-96

Greek Government Press Release Directory

From: "Hellenic Ministry of Press and Mass Media" <pegasus@compulink.gr>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 22.4.1996

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. DHMHTRH REPPA

Kalhmera sas.
* Opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos anaxwrei shmera gia to Londino, opoy qa exei synomilies me ton Bretano Prwqypoyrgo k. Mehtzor. En synexeia, qa episkefqei thn Irlandia, opoy qa exei synomilies me ton Irlando Prwqypoyrgo k. Mproyton.
-Etsi akribws ayth h ekstrateia probolhs kai prowqhshs twn eqnikwn qematwn poy exei jekinhsei o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos oloklhrwnetai me ton prwto kyklo tajidiwn. Stis syzhthseis poy prokeitai na ginoyn ayrio kai meqayrio (23 kai 24 Aprilioy) o Prwqypoyrgos qa probalei ta eqnika qemata. Qa epidiwjei thn prowqhsh twn dimerwn sxesewn kai thn anabaqmish toys. Kai bebaiws qa ginei mia syzhthsh gia qemata poy aforoyn thn kalyterh synennohsh twn dyo xwrwn sta plaisia ths symmetoxhs toys sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, oson afora th Megalh Bretania. Oson afora de thn Irlandia, h episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy apokta endiaferon kaq' oson gnwrizete oti h Irlandia einai h xwra poy qa askhsei thn Proedria sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kata to deytero ejamhno toy 1996.
-Qewroyme pws oi episkeceis toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai proetoimasmenes kai qa exoyn qetika apotelesmata. Kai pisteyoyme pws h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh - qa enhmerwqeite allwste - exei kanei shmantika bhmata wste na anadeijei ta qemata ta opoia exoyn megalh gia mas shmasia sto dieqnh xwro, sto plaisio twn episkecewn poy exei kanei o k. Prwqypoyrgos.
** Thn Pempth (25.4.96) qa ginei sth Boylh h syzhthsh pros timhn ths mnhmhs toy Xarilaoy Trikoyph.
*** Kai thn Pempth epishs problepetai (den exei akomh kaqorisqei h wra) synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Kornmploym (ton diadoxo toy k. Xolmproyk), o opoios episkeptetai thn Ellada.
**** Qelw, prin mpoyme sth syzhthsh mas, na anaferqw se ena peristatiko poy elabe xwra shmera peripoy stis 6.30 to prwi: Ena peripoliko foyskwto skafos toy Limenikoy entopise oktw laqrometanastes (treis andres, dyo gynaikes kai tria anhlika paidia) na exoyn apobibasqei sthn perioxh Agioy Stefanoy Kastelorizoy sth nhso Stroggylh. Diapistwqhke oti eixan molis apobibasqei apo toyrkiko taxyploo skafos, toy opoioy to onoma einai "NTERIA ONE". Prepei na poyme oti kai sto parelqon to skafos ayto kai o idiokthths toy (h kapetanios toy) exoyn probei se analoges prajeis.
-To ellhniko peripoliko foyskwto skafos eyqys ws diapistwse thn apobibash twn laqrometanastwn zhthse apo to toyrkiko skafos na parameinei wste na dexqei elegxo, opws wfeile na prajei. To toyrkiko taxyploo skafos aneptyje taxythta kai apomakrynqhke. To ellhniko foyskwto peripoliko toy Limenikoy Swmatos to akoloyqhse pyrobolwntas ston aera kata tropo proeidopoihtiko, prokeimenoy na epishmanei thn ypoxrewsh poy eixe to toyrkiko taxyploo skafos "NTERIA ONE" na dexqei ton elegxo. To toyrkiko skafos aneptyje omws taxythta kai apomakrynqhke sta xwrika ydata ths Toyrkias.
-Qewroyme pws h laqrometanasteysh apotelei ena akomh agkaqi stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis. Einai ntroph gia th sygxronh koinwnia doylemporoi na ekmetalleyontai thn agwnia anqrwpwn oi opoioi epizhtoyn kalyteres synqhkes diabiwshs kai na emporeyontai oysiastika ayth toys thn epidiwjh. H Toyrkia epiteloys prepei na fylajei ta synora ths. H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh exei zhthsei na yparjei dialogos me th sygkekrimenh ayth qematologia, dhladh th laqrometanasteysh, poy apotelei problhma, epanalambanw kai pali. H Toyrkia exei arnhqei systhmatika ayto to dialogo. Ayto apodeiknyei pws otan yparxei sygkekrimeno problhma, h Ellada einai etoimh na to syzhthsei. Kai idoy ena poly sygkekrimeno paradeigma, poy deixnei sthn prajh poia einai ta stoixeia ekeina ta opoia synistoyn kai esties tribhs stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, epeidh einai problhmata pragmatika, problhmata diapistwmena. Problhmata ta opoia h idia h zwh anadeiknyei.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Oi laqrometanastes ti eginan telika;

REPPAS: Oi laqrometanastes briskontai ypo ton elegxo twn ellhnikwn arxwn.

KIAOS: Eixame qymata;

REPPAS: Den eixame qymata ej oswn gnwrizw.

KARASABA: Traymaties yparxoyn;

REPPAS: Traymaties den gnwrizoyme na yparxoyn. Oi laqrometanastes - sas eipa - einai treis andres, dyo gynaikes kai tria anhlika paidia.

PARIS: Katagwghs;

REPPAS: Iranikhs katagwghs. Iranoi.

POYLIDOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, einai bebaio oti pyrobolhse ston aera to ellhniko limeniko skafos; Giati h toyrkikh pleyra milaei gia traymatia.

REPPAS: To ellhniko skafos htan peripoliko (opws onomazetai) alla epanalambanw kai pali oti eprokeito gia foyskwto skafos. Den prokeitai peri polemikoy skafoys, opws kapoios mporei na fantazetai. Oi pyrobolismoi hsan proeidopoihtikoi kai errifqhsan ston aera.

POYLIDOY: Me thn eykairia, h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh skopeyei na ferei sth Boylh gia chfish to nomosxedio poy apotelei proypoqesh gia thn kyrwsh ths Symfwnias toy Segken;

REPPAS: Ayto einai ena qema, to opoio antimetwpizei h Kybernhsh, opws exw janapei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, thn Pempth (25.4.96) qa exoyme sth Boylh syzhthsh gia th mnhmh toy Xarilaoy Trikoyph. Mhpws exoyn programmatisqei kai oi alles syzhthseis sth Boylh;

REPPAS: Exei programmatisqei na ginei syzhthsh gia ta qemata ejwterikhs politikhs stis 6 Maioy kai stis 8 Maioy qa ginei h syzhthsh poy afora thn anergia. H syzhthsh gia ta qemata ths ejwterikhs politikhs ginetai poly pio nwritera kai qa ginei h syzhthsh ayth stis 6 toy mhnos Maioy.

SKOYRHS: Giati pio nwritera;

REPPAS: Einai nwritera dioti akribws ekrine h Kybernhsh pws den prosferetai gia kommatikh antidikia kai kritikh h polemikh twn allwn kommatwn, h opoia estiazetai akribws sthn hmeromhnia poy arxikws eixe orisqei. H Kybernhsh allazontas ton programmatismo ths, deixnontas thn kalh pisth kai to endiaferon ths gia syzhthsh aytwn twn qematwn, proekrine thn hmeromhnia poy sas anefera ws pleon katallhlh.

SKOYRHS: Enas Ypoyrgos ths Kybernhshs, o Yfypoyrgos Paideias k. Pasxalidhs, ekane logo xqes gia prowres ekloges. Sas diabazw akribws "h desmeysh mas gia ejantlhsh ths tetraetias den einai aytoskopos". Apodokimazeta th dhlwsh;

REPPAS: Den einai aytoskopos oi ekloges. Oi ekloges einai meson, prokeimenoy sta koinoboyleytika kaqestwta oi xwres na apoktoyn Kybernhseis. Emeis qewroyme pws yparxei Kybernhsh h opoia exei megalh kai sterea pleiochfia. Kai m'ayth thn ennoia, oydeis logos yparxei na epilejoyme thn odo twn eklogwn prokeimenoy h xwra na apokthsei Kybernhsh me megalh kai staqerh pleiochfia. Megalh kai staqerh pleiochfia yparxei sth xwra. Den xreiazontai ekloges gia na epibebaiwsoyn ayto poy hdh einai katakthsh gia th xwra mas.

SKOYRHS: Exoyme omws enan yfypoyrgo ths Kybernhshs kai enan prwto th tajei Ypoyrgo sto Ektelestiko Grafeio poy oysiastika dhmioyr- goyn anhsyxies. An den kanw laqos dhlwseis gia ekloges kai ypotimhsh dhmioyrgoyn klima anhsyxias.

REPPAS: Exei anaptyxqei enas dhmosios dialogos peri qematwn poy aforoyn epiloges tis opoies prepei na kanei h Kybernhsh h qematwn poy aforoyn thn poreia toy kommatos to opoio sthrizei thn Kybernhsh pros to Synedrio toy. Pisteyw oti se mia anoikth dhmokratikh koinwnia oi apoceis prepei na ekfrazontai eleyqera. Ayto poy prepei na epishmanw einai oti to endiaferon ths Kybernhshs kai olwn twn stelexwn toy PASOK, oxi monon twn kybernhtikwn, den mporei para na strefetai prwtistws sthn antimetwpish twn megalwn problhmatwn poy apasxoloyn th xwra. Ayto einai to mellhma ths Kybernhshs kai toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy kai ola ta alla ypotassontai se ayto ton prwtarxiko skopo: Sthn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn ths xwras.

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: H syllogistikh toy k. Pasxalidh einai oti den exoyme stoxo na ejantlhsoyme thn tetraetia, an einai na ejantlh- qoyme emeis.

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti h ellhnikh Kybernhsh exei dynatothtes wste na analwsei tis dynameis ths sthn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn ths xwras, xwris na yparxei kindynos na ejantlhqei h idia h na ejantlhqei h xwra. H xwra qa ejantlhqei an parameinoyn ta megala kai krisima problhmata poy antimetwpizei shmera xwris antimetwpi- sh. H Kybernhsh loipon epimenei na antimetwpisei ayta ta problhmata. An den ta antimetwpisei kai "peri alla tyrbazei", tote pragmatika yparxei kindynos na ejantlhqei h xwra. Alla h kybernhsh exei stoxo na antimetwpisei ayta ta megala problhmata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos sthn Amerikh eixe syzhthsei, toy eixe teqei kaqoloy to qema peri parabiashs twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn ths moysoylmanikhs meionothtas ths Qrakhs;

REPPAS: Den eixe teqei tetoio qema doqentos oti den yparxei tetoio qema gia thn ellhnikh Kybernhsh. Kai den apotelei antikei- meno syzhthshs to qema twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn sthn Ellada, opoiwndhpote.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den toy to eixan qijei kaqoloy; Kai to eferan meta sto Kogkresso;

REPPAS: Ma den to efere h Amerikanikh Kybernhsh. Gnwrizete pws leitoyrgei to systhma to koinoboyleytiko sthn Amerikh. H syzhthsh sthn opoia anaferesqe me thn erwthsh sas, einai syzhthsh h opoia prokaleitai se ena nomoqetiko swma me prwtoboylies poy profanws den anelabe h Amerikanikh Kybernhsh.

KIAOS: Exete ypocin sas sthn aigyptikh presbeia kinhtopoihseis ths Astynomias gia bomba k.lp.;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw apolytws tipota k. Kiao kai pisteyw oti den prepei na antapokrinontai sthn alhqeia aytes oi plhrofories. Qelw na pisteyw, alla kai elpizw.

KIAOS: Exoyn apokleisei...

REPPAS: Mporw se liga lepta afotoy teleiwsei h syzhthsh mas, na sas enhmerwsw.

KIAOS: Moy leei o synadelfos oti teleiwse...

REPPAS: Den nomizw na yparxei kati.

APOSTOLOPOYLOS: Twra poy perasa den yphrxe tipota.

REPPAS: Kalws. Ara na qewrhsoyme oti den egine ayth h mikrh syzhthsh.

KIAOS: Mias kai eimaste sthn Kybernhsh, epeidh o k. Shmiths exei dhlwsei oti einai kentroaristera, mhpws exete kapoio sxolio gia thn kentroaristera sthn Italia;

REPPAS: Qewroyme oti ta eklogika apotelesmata se opoiadhpote xwra, ekfrazoyn th qelhsh ths pleiochfias toy laoy ths sygkekri- menhs xwras. Einai ikanopoihsh gia thn ellhnikh Kybernhsh h opoia ekfrazei proodeytikes dhmokratikes arxes kai qeseis, na anadei- knyontai se oles tis xwres kybernhseis oi opoies exoyn qeseis me proodeytiko prosanatolismo.

KACAMPELHS: Epeidh kerdise synaspismos kommatwn sthn Italia, h ikanopoihsh ayth ths ellhnikhs Kybernhshs mporei na dhlwnei kai mia proqesh gia prwtoboylies synaspismoy eyryteroy sto xwro ths kentroaristeras kai sthn Ellada;

REPPAS: H ellhnikh Kybernhsh exei aytodynamws koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia kai malista megalh. Qewroyme oti otan elqei h wra na kriqoyme, qa exoyme epanabebaiwsh kai epanakatakthsh kai pali mias megalhs, kata aytodynamo tropo, koinoboyleytikhs pleiochfi- as. Ta qemata twn sygklisewn kai twn synergasiwn einai qemata poy pantote paramenoyn sto epikentro toy endiaferontos mas, wste na sygkroteitai to eyrytero dynato metwpo sth bash sygkekrimenwn arxwn kai symfwniwn.

KOYRHS: Ws genikh arxh k. Ekproswpe. O Prwqypoyrgos an xasei th maxh toy Synedrioy, xanei kai thn Prwqypoyrgia, opws afhnoyn na ennohqei boyleytes toy PASOK;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos qa kriqei apo th maxh thn opoia qa dwsei antimetwpizontas ta problhmata ths ellhnikhs koinwnias. Kammia allh maxh o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos den qewrei oti exei mprosta toy.

APOSTOLOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite me ayto; Den yparxei apofash toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti den qa einai ypochfios gia to Synedrio;

REPPAS: Eseis jerete na yparxei kapoia apofash toy Prwqypoyrgoy, h opoia na exei dhlwqei apo ton idio...;

APOSTOLOPOYLOS: Oxi, to antiqeto. Epeidh den jeroyme tetoia apofash...

REPPAS: Kai prospaqeite na bgalete ek toy antiqetoy, symperasma- tologwntas...

APOSTOLOPOYLOS: Epeidh eseis eipate oti kammia allh maxh den yparxei mprosta toy...

REPPAS: Th maxh poy qewrei o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos oti kaleitai na dwsei kai prepei na dwsei, einai h maxh apenanti sta problhma- ta poy antimetwpizei o topos. Allh maxh o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos den qewrei oti exei apenanti toy na dwsei kai asfalws, oi kommatikes diadikasies, mias kai s' aytes anaferetai o k. Skoyrhs, den apoteloyn pedio maxwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa einai ypochfios;

REPPAS: Nomizw oti o k. Shmiths exei dhlwsei kat' epanalhch oti niwqei megalo to xreos antimetwpishs twn eyqynwn toy ws Prwqy- poyrgos kai otan erqei h wra na anakoinwsei tis apofaseis toy gia to sygkekrimeno qema, qa to kanei me gnwmona to eqniko kai koinwniko symferon.

KACAMPELHS: Pote qa erqei ayth h wra;

REPPAS: An sas pw pote qa erqei ayth h wra, einai san na afairoyme th dynatothta apo ton k. Shmith na krinei ekeinos pote akribws to symferon ths xwras kai ths koinwnias epitassei na parei ayth thn apofash kai na thn anakoinwsei.

KACAMPELHS: Ta idia mas elege kai o k. Papandreoy...

REPPAS: Sygkekrimenh erwthsh an qelete na qesete...

STAMATOPOYLOS: Molis teleiwsei to mageirema...

REPPAS: Den yparxei kanena mageirema k. Stamatopoyle, kaq'oti emeis den areskomaste sthn mageirikh, epeidh den eimaste kai "anqrwpofagoi" giati ta mageiremata, edw, stis sygkekrimenes periptwseis - as xaritologhsoyme - aforoyn anqrwpoys! Emeis den eimaste "anqrwpofagoi" wste na mageireyoyme xrhsimopoiwntas anqrwpoys!

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: Ayrio kai meqayrio qa exoyme mprifingk;

REPPAS: Qa einai o k. Aqanasakhs.Qa ginei kai ayrio kai meqayrio mprifingk. Sas eyxaristw poly.

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