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BRIEFING 01-04-96

Greek Government Press Release Directory

From: "Hellenic Ministry of Press and Mass Media" <pegasus@compulink.gr>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 1.4.96

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. DHMHTRH REPPA

Kalhmera sas.
* O k. Prwqypoyrgos synanthqhke me ton Ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Oikonomias, ton k. Papantwnioy, kai syzhthsan tis teleytaies ejelijeis sta qemata oikonomias kai gia thn oikonomikh politikh ths Kybernhshs.
* O k. Prwqypoyrgos to apogeyma, stis 7.00 m.m. qa dexqei ton Ypoyrgo Metaforwn kai Epikoinwniwn k. Kastanidh, en ocei kai ths ayrianhs synedriasews ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, h opoia qa asxolhqei me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Anaptyjhs kai bebaiws, qemata poy einai sthn armodiothta toy k. Kastanidh, opws einai to aerodromio kai h Olympiakh Aeroporia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Otan lete "qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Anaptyjhs", ti ennoeite;

REPPAS: Qemata armodiothtas ths kyrias Basws Papandreoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai kai h DEH mesa... Qa syzhthqei kai ayto;

REPPAS: Einai kai h DEP. Nomizw oti yparxei qema gia th DEP. Qa syzhthqoyn qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Anaptyjhs.

KIAOS: DEP otan lete, gia to Xrhmatisthrio, dhladh;

REPPAS: H DEP einai - opws gnwrizete - h Dhmosia Epixeirhsh Petrelaioy. Gnwrizete oti apo kairo yparxei h qesh, gia th metoxopoihsh enos meroys ths DEP. Loipon, einai kai ayto ena apo ta qemata ta opoia qa apasxolhsoyn thn ayrianh Kybernhtikh Epitroph, h opoia - epanalambanw kai pali - sto prwto meros ths qa asxolhqei me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Anaptyjhs. Alla den qa einai, asfalws, mono ayto.Qa plhroforhqeite argotera to sobaro qema poy yparxei...

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: Poio;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Peste to, twra.

KIAOS: Prwtapriliatiko;

REPPAS: Kyrie Kiao, to myalo sas ekei einai, sthn Prwtaprilia!

KIAOS: Epeidh lete kati xamogelwntas kai lew...

REPPAS: Einai toso periergo, dhladh, na xamogelaw...

KIAOS: Oxi.

REPPAS: Me kathgoroyn oloi oti den xamogelw arketa. Prepei na einai Prwtaprilia gia na xamogelasoyme; Alla an xamogeloyme Prwtaprilia, qa einai ceytiko to gelio mas... Loipon, syzhtoyme.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Meta to dhmosieyma ths "MILLIET" poy paradexotan oti h Imia einai ellhnikh, meta tis perifhmes dhlwseis Gilmaz gia "epiqesh eirhnhs pros thn Ellada", epanerxetai twra h Toyrkia gia to qema ths Imia, na paraponeitai giati anebhke o boskos epanw na taisei ta gidoprobata. Ti ginetai telika; Einai ellhnikh h Imia, h den einai; Ti dhlwsh qa kanete;

REPPAS: To Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn ejedwse anakoinwsh, opoy epanalambanetai, kata tropo kathgorhmatiko, h qesh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs poy sas einai gnwsth: Oti h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh askei plhrws ta kyriarxika dikaiwmata sth sygkekrimenh perioxh kai stis braxonhsides. Qewroyme pws me bash tis teleytaies ejelijeis kai ta stoixeia ta opoia exoyn erqei sto fws, apodeiknyetai oti oi ellhnikes qeseis exoyn isxyro nomiko ereisma, opws legame pantote. Kai taytoxronws apodeiknyetai oti oi isxyrismoi ths Toyrkias einai isxyrismoi ewloi, oi opoioi kammia sxesh den exoyn me to Dieqnes Dikaio. Mas ikanopoioyn oi teleytaies ejelijeis. To diabhma ths toyrkikhs pleyras einai mia diplwmatikh kinhsh xarin entypwsiasmoy apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias. Emeis qa apanthsoyme me rhmatikh diakoinwsh, sas plhroforw. Qewroyme de - kai epanerxomai pali s'ayth th qesh - oti to kaqestws einai safes, einai dedomeno kai sth sygkekrimenh perioxh h Ellada askei plhrws ta kyriarxika ths dikaiwmata.

MARDAS: Meta thn episkech toy k. Ntemirel sto Leyko Oiko, to Steht Nthpartment anefere tis nhsides Imia kai me thn toyrkikh onomasia "Karntak". H Kybernhsh qa kanei kapoia parembash, kapoia diamartyria gia na ypenqymisei sto Steht Nthpartment, meta malista kai apo tis apokalyceis ths "MILLIET" oti ayth h braxonhsida exei mia onomasia, thn ellhnikh;

REPPAS: H qesh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs, kyrie Marda, einai qesh h opoia den epidexetai opoiadhpote amfisbhthsh h diaforopoihsh. Oi nhsides Imia anhkoyn sthn Ellada. Ayto se oloys toys tonoys to exoyme diakhryjei. Kai bebaiws stis syzhthseis poy qa exoyme kai me thn Amerikanikh Kybernhsh, h qesh mas ayth qa diatypwqei.

KIAOS: Na erqw sto prwto qema gia th synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Oikonomias. Epeidh exoyme dhmosieymata shmera stis efhmerides gia qemata genikoterhs politikhs ths Kybernhshs kai den anaferomai ejeidikeymena, gia na mh mplejoyme me toys synadelfoys toy oikonomikoy reportaz...

REPPAS: Exete apolyto dikio. Oi opoioi fantazomai oti qa exoyn kapoia enhmerwsh leptomeresterh, eyqys ws o k. Papantwnioy epistrecei sto grafeio toy, meta th synanthsh me ton k. Prwqypoyrgo.

KIAOS: Epeidh sto genikotero plaisio ths kybernhtikhs politikhs einai kai to qema toy plhqwrismoy, einai pws askeitai h oikonomikh politikh, poioi Ypoyrgoi, epeidh dhmosieymata omiloyn gia dysleitoyrgies, pws kamptontai aytes oi dysleitoyrgies kai pws periorizetai o plhqwrismos;

REPPAS: Pisteyw, kyrie Kiao, oti h ayjhsh toy plhqwrismoy thn teleytaia periodo ofeiletai se sygkyriaka fainomena. Ofeiletai sthn ayjhsh twn timwn twn kaysimwn af'enos kai twn opwrokhpeytikwn af'eteroy. Oi ayjhseis aytes den einai dynaton na problefqoyn kai qewroyme oti thn epomenh periodo qa yparxei apoklimakwsh ths timhs toy plhqwrismoy. H Kybernhsh einai diateqeimenh kai apofasismenh na krathsei staqera kai aparegklhta thn oikonomikh politikh poy exei xarajei. Kai pisteyoyme oti toys stoxoys toys opoioys exoyme qesei, oi opoioi einai stoxoi efiktoi, qa mporesei h Kybernhsh na toys proseggisei. Qa hqela me thn eykairia ayth na pw - sas einai gnwsto allwste - gia prwth fora meta apo para polla xronia, 20 xronia, o plhqwrismos kineitai pia se epipeda monochfioy ariqmoy. Ta epiteygmata ths Kybernhshs ston oikonomiko tomea einai gnwsta. H kritikh h opoia askeitai, bebaiws, exei stoixeia ta opoia th dikaiologoyn, epeidh kai emeis den eimaste apolytws ikanopoihmenoi gia thn katastash sthn opoia brisketai h oikonomia ths xwras mas. Apo thn allh pleyra omws qa perimena oti dipla sthn kritikh ayth, qa yphrxe kai enas epainos gia to oti h Kybernhsh ayth katorqwse se epipedo plhqwrismoy, elleimmatwn kai dhmosioy xreoys, na petyxei pragmata poy gia prwth fora ginontai katorqwta sthn Ellada meta th metapoliteysh. Kai ayto einai kati poy prepei na to shmeiwsoyme kai na to epishmanoyme. Bebaiws, h politikh mas - epanalambanw kai pali - qa synexisqei, etsi opws eixe ejaggelqei, giati qewroyme oti einai h monh swsth politikh, thn opoia kai o topos exei anagkh shmera. H Kybernhsh me thn ypeyqynh stash ths mporei na th ferei se peras.

KIAOS: Epeidh sthn oikonomikh ayth politikh epirriptontai, symfwna me dhmosieymata, eyqynes ston k. Papantwnioy, ston k. Papadopoylo, omiloyn oti den yparxei enas stoixeiwdhs syntonismos metajy twn Ypoyrgwn, htan qemata poy apasxolhsan kai th shmerinh synanthsh ayta;

REPPAS: H synergasia twn Ypoyrgwn einai dedomenh. Allwste, synedriazoyn ta kybernhtika organa kai oxi mono se epipedo Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy kai ekei einai dynaton na yparxei antallagh apocewn kai stenh synennohsh, wste na lambanontai oi swstes apofaseis. Qema syntonismoy den yparxei. Kai pisteyw oti, bebaiws, se kaqe synanthsh poy exei o Prwqypoyrgos me toys armodioys Ypoyrgoys syzhtaei olo to fasma twn qematwn ths armodiothtas ekastoy Ypoyrgoy me ton opoio synantatai o k. Prwqypoyrgos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti h ayjhsh toy plhqwrismoy ofeiletai se sygkyriaka fainomena, ayjhsh kaysimwn kai opwrokhpeytikwn. Gia ta kaysima to dexomai, giati akoloyqoyn th dieqnh timh toy dollarioy. Akoloyqoyn kai ta opwrokhpeytika to dollario;

REPPAS: Ta opwrokhpeytika, kyrie Stamatopoyle, gnwrizete poly kala oti exoyn times poy diakymainontai analogws twn kairikwn synqhkwn kai oxi mono. Pisteyw loipon pws ta fainomena ayta einai sygkyriaka. Den einai eykolo na ta problecei kapoios, gi'ayto akribws o plhqwrismos eixe ayth thn ayjhsh thn teleytaia periodo poy qewroyme oti h ayjhsh ayth qa ypoxwrhsei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn oi agoranomikes diatajeis, omws...

REPPAS: Bebaiws, yparxoyn agoranomikes diatajeis, oi opoies omws den mporoyn na alloiwsoyn toys kanones basei twn opoiwn leitoyrgei h ellhnikh agora.

MIXAHL: Dyo erwthseis qelw na kanw: Prwth, ean h Kybernhsh ektima oti apo thn anataraxh ayth poy diamorfwqhke tis teleytaies hmeres sthn oikonomia, diatarassetai to Programma Sygklishs to opoio exei diatypwsei. H deyterh erwthsh exei na kanei me to ean h timh toy dollarioy pesei - prosejte ti lew - hdh yparxoyn ptwtikes taseis, prokeitai na pesoyn kai oi times twn kaysimwn;

REPPAS: Oi apanthseis einai oi ejhs: Den yparxei oydemia anataraxh sthn agora. Pisteyoyme oti to epityxestato egxeirhma ths eisagwghs metoxwn toy OTE sto Xrhmatisthrio, apodeiknyei metajy olwn twn allwn kai thn empistosynh poy yparxei sthn oikonomikh politikh ths Kybernhshs. Qewroyme pws h agora qa omalopoihqei etsi wste kai oi times na briskontai sta fysiologika gia thn epoxh epipeda kai o plhqwrismos na apoklimakwqei thn epomenh periodo. Oi de times twn kaysimwn, qewroyme pws eixan ayth thn ayjhsh, h opoia kai ayth ektimoyme pws htan proskairh. Gia thn epomenh periodo qa yparjei mia staqeropoihsh twn timwn sta epipeda poy yparxoyn shmera kai -giati oxi- isws yparjei kai mikrh meiwsh toys.

KOGIANNHS: Edw akoyme gia ayjhsh mesa sthn epomenh ebdomada...

REPPAS: Nai, thn epomenh periodo eipa. Ayth thn ebdomada oi times qa meinoyn -to apanthsa kai proxqes ayto- se staqero epipedo. Kai isws exoyme mia ayjhsh h opoia den qa einai megalh. Isws. Qewroyme oti amesws meta -ayth einai h ektimhsh poy yparxei- oi times qa meinoyn se staqera epipeda kai isws ypoxwrhsoyn.

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: Qelw na rwthsw an sthn epistolh toy k. Klinton pros ton Prwqypoyrgo, ginetai logos gia dialogo me thn Toyrkia gia ta ellhnotoyrkika.

REPPAS: Sthn epistolh poy apesteile o k. Klinton mesw ths syzygoy toy ston k. Prwqypoyrgo, anaferetai akribws o Proedros twn HPA, sta qemata ta opoia qewrei oti prepei na apotelesoyn to antikeimeno ths syzhthshs toy me ton k. Shmith. Ta qemata ayta -metajy twn allwn- einai kai ta qemata ta sxetika me tis sxeseis Elladas kai Toyrkias. Kai epi twn qematwn aytwn, asfalws, qa yparjei syzhthsh. Einai ayto, peripoy, aytonohto nomizw k. Zerbonikolakh. Den nomizw oti qa anemene kaneis na perilambanetai se mia epistolh toy Proedroy Klinton ena tetoio qema wste na qewroyme pws qa syzhthqei ayto to qema sthn episkech toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy sto Leyko Oiko.

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: An ginetai nyjh sthn epistolh gia dialogo Elladas-Toyrkias.

REPPAS: O k. Klinton den pairnei qesh sthn oysia opoioydhpote qematos apo osa anaferei sthn epistolh toy. Aplws, anaferetai perigrafikws -as moy epitrapei na pw- sta qemata ta opoia qewrei oti prepei na apasxolhsoyn tis syzhthseis toy me ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo. Kai einai oi sxeseis Elladas-Toyrkias ...

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Einai kai to Kypriako;

REPPAS: ... bebaiws, oi sxeseis Elladas-Toyrkias pernoyn mesa kai apo to Kypriako k. Kwnstantinidh. Einai oi sxeseis ths xwras mas me tis HPA -aytonohto kai ayto- kai bebaiws h qesh ths Ellados sthn eyryterh perioxh.

GARGALAKOS: Gnwrizete k. Ekproswpe, an o Prwqypoyrgos protiqetai na dexqei thn protash toy Ypoyrgoy Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs, gia politikh symfwnia opws ayth diatypwnetai sta "NEA";

REPPAS: Den yparxei kapoia protash gia politikh symfwnia. Pisteyw oti syzhthseis ginontai sta plaisia twn organwn toy PASOK ef'oson aforoyn kommatika zhthmata kai ekei lambanontai oi apofaseis.

GARGALAKOS: Afora omws kai thn Kybernhsh giati h sxesh toy prwtoy th tajei Ypoyrgoy me ton Prwqypoyrgo exei na kanei kai me th staqerothta kai me th synoxh ths Kybernhshs.

REPPAS: Ma, h staqerothta kai h synoxh ths Kybernhshs ejasfalizetai me th synergasia kai th synennohsh twn melwn ths Kybernhshs. O k. Prwqypoyrgos einai Prwqypoyrgos. O k. Ypoyrgos einai Ypoyrgos. Kai kaqenas me ta dikaiwmata, tis ejoysies h tis armodiothtes toy erxetai se epafh kai synergasia me ton allon wste na ejasfalizetai aytos o omalos ryqmos sth leitoyrgia ths Kybernhshs. Gia ta kommatika zhthmata yparxoyn ta kommatika organa. Ekei ektiqentai oles oi apoceis. Kai lambanontai me dhmokratikh diadikasia, diafanh kai apolyth oi opoies apofaseis.

MIXAHL: "Omorfos kosmos, hqikos, aggelika plasmenos".

REPPAS: Ayto einai pragmatika prwtapriliatiko k. Mixahl. Ajizei omws na paleyoyme kai gi'ayto. Wste o mesos oros telika na einai se ena ychlo epipedo. Na mhn paraitoymeqa ek twn proterwn gia stoxoys toys opoioys qewroyme oti einai toso prowqhmenoi. Parakalw h ka Poylidoy.

POYLIDOY: Ti qa perimene o Prwqypoyrgos na apodwsei h synanthsh toy me ton Amerikano Proedro;

REPPAS: O k Prwqypoyrgos sthn episkech toy ayth sto Leyko Oiko qa anaferqei sthn politikh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs, sthn ejwterikh, sth dieqnh politikh gia na anadeijei to rolo ths Ellados ws paragonta shmantikoy gia th staqerothta kai thn asfaleia sthn perioxh. Kai qa epidiwjei na ejasfalisei thn katanohsh kai synergasia twn HPA, sthn prospaqeia poy kanei h Ellada na enisxysei th qesh ths ston dieqnh xwro. Eite einai Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, eite einai h perioxh ths Notianatolikhs Mesogeioy kai twn Balkaniwn. Kai pisteyoyme oti sta qemata ayta qa yparjei synennohsh kai symfwnia.

MARDAS: Pws mporei o k. Klinton na einai ajiopistos mesolabhths otan, milwntas stoys Ellhnes, anaferei to nhsi ws Imia kai stoys Toyrkoys ws Karntak;

REPPAS: O k. Klinton den exei ejoysiodothqei apo thn Ellada na paijei to rolo toy mesolabhth se opoiadhpote sxesh ths Elladas me allh xwra. O k. Klinton einai o Proedros mias megalhs xwras me thn opoia qeloyme kales sxeseis. O k. Klinton, qewroyme oti einai enas paragwn o opoios exei th dynamh kai thn epirroh epi twn ejelijewn pagkosmiws. Kai h Ellada - kai idiaiterws h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh- exei kaqe logo na epidiwkei kales sxeseis, sth bash omws twn eqnikwn mas symferontwn, me ton k. Klinton kai thn Kybernhsh twn HPA.

MARDAS: Otan stelnei epistolh kai kalei ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo kai ton Toyrko Proedro sto Leyko Oiko, ayto den einai stoixeio mesolabhshs; Dhladh, den ton qelete gia mesolabhth ton k. Klinton;

REPPAS: H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh -epanalambanw kai pali- den exei ejoysiodothsei opoiondhpote na paijei to rolo toy mesolabhth. H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh proteinei tis dikes ths qeseis kai prospaqei na ejasfalisei symfwnies epi th basei twn eqnikwn mas symferontwn stis qeseis ths. Bebaiws, den eimaste emeis aytoi oi opoioi qa xarajoyme thn politikh ths Kybernhshs twn HPA. O k. Klinton kanei tis dikes toy kinhseis. Ayto den einai qema to opoio mporei na odhghsei thn Ellada se mia epiqetikh stash apenanti stis HPA. Pisteyw oti ayto einai yperboliko na to zhtate.

MARDAS: Otan anaferei ta Imia ws Karntak, ayto einai askhsh politikhs h parabiash ths onomasias poy einai katwxyrwmenh me dieqneis symfwnies;

REPPAS: Ayto einai h qesh thn opoia ejefrase o k. Klinton kai krinoyme oloi -opws kai eseis- ton k. Klinton. Emeis qewroyme oti h qesh mas einai safhs, einai dedomenh kai s'ayth th qesh epidiwkoyme kai th symfwnia twn HPA. Allwste, as mhn mpoyme sthn onomatologia k. Marda. Apla moy dinete thn eykairia na pw oti polles poleis exoyn onomata ta opoia anaferontai me diaforetiko tropo apo kaqe pleyra. Poleis poy anhkoyn h sth mia xwra h sthn allh xwra. Kai ayto to gnwrizete...

MARDAS: Deixnete katanohsh...

REPPAS: Kyrie Marda bgazete symperasmata monos sas. Bebaiws, gnwrizete oti, akomh kai ta kata thn toyrkikh ekdoxh, Karntak exoyn metonomastei kai exoyn allo onoma pleon. Apo thn idia thn Toyrkia. To jerete ayto; Asxoleiste me ayta eseis, exete entryfhsei. Exoyn allo onoma pia. Den onomazontai Karntak. Aplws, einai oligon parwxhmenh h ekdoxh poy dwsate kai eseis peri thn onomasia toy symplegmatos twn braxonhsidwn.

MARDAS: Me anesh stekesqe apenanti se ayto.

REPPAS: Me kammia anesh. Blepete oti h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh emmenei se sygkekrimenes qeseis, k. Marda. Kai prepei aytes tis qeseis na krinete. An qelete na krinete tis qeseis twn HPA, parakalw, kante to. Alla mhn kaleite emena na apanthsw ws na eimai ekproswpos ths Kybernhshs twn HPA, giati den eimai. Kai den protiqemai, oyte filodojw na ginw.

MARDAS: Afora ellhnikh qesh, omws.

REPPAS: H ellhnikh qesh einai dedomenh. Einai jekaqarismenh. Kai einai kat'epanalhch diatypwmenh. Exete diafwnies gia th stash poy krataei h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh sto sygkekrimeno qema; Peite thn thn opoia diafwnia wste na apanthsw epi sygkekrimenoy erwthmatos sas.

MARDAS: Exei diamartyrhqei h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh gia th diplh onomasia poy exei kaqierwsei to STATE DEPARTEMENT; Sas rwtaw.

REPPAS: H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh exei diatypwmenh qesh kai qewrei oti kai ayto einai ena qema to opoio qa qesei sthn allh pleyra sta plaisia twn syzhthsewn. Efoson qewroyme oti h allh pleyra exei dexqei pws prepei na ginetai sebasto to Dieqnes Dikaio, oi Dieqneis Symfwnies kai Synqhkes, pisteyw oti ws synepeia aytoy, den einai allh para to na dexqoyn oloi pws kai to onoma prepei na einai kai to onoma poy h ellhnikh pleyra xrhsimopoiei. Epeidh akribws yper twn qesewn ths ellhnikhs pleyras synhgoroyn kai aytes oi Dieqneis Symfwnies kai Synqhkes. Oloi dexontai oti prepei na ginoyn sebastes kai na isxyoyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti den exete balei diamesolabhth ton k. Klinton. Kai omws ton exete balei. An qymaste, ton eixate eyxaristhsei kiolas gia thn mesolabhsh toy.

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, otan miloyme gia mesolabhtes pisteyw oti exoyme th stoixeiwdh nohmosynh na katanooyme pws mesolabhths den einai opoiosdhpote -eite kybernhths eite allos ajiwmatoyxos- o opoios monos toy, me dikh toy prwtoboylia, anaptyssei ena rolo, mia drasthriothta, xwris na exei thn analogh, antistoixh ejoysiodothsh. Ekeinh thn periodo - gnwrizete poly kala- den ezhthqh apo thn Ellhnikh Kybernhsh, h diamesolabish opoioydhpote. O k. Klinton eixe thn prwtoboylia -exei eipwqei ayto- na mesolabhsei - kai xrhsimopoiw mia lejh h opoia einai symfwnh me to oysiastiko poy kai eseis xrhsimopoieite, gia na mhn qewrhsete oti ypekfeygw- metajy Ellados kai Toyrkias prokeimenoy na ektonwqei h krish poy yphrxe tote stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis. Kai gi'ayton, akribws to rolo, toy xrhsimoy tritoy - giati otan dyo pleyres den epikoinwnoyn kai kapoios tritos qelei na prosferei yphresies, einai xrhsimos aytos o tritos estw kai an leitoyrgei apla ws taxydromos - h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh ejefrase tis eyxaristies ths. Gia ayton akribws to rolo. Kai tipota allo. Giati yphrje paranohsh panw se ayto;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den legetai mesolabhsh ayto;

REPPAS: Ayto k. Stamatopoyle, den legetai akribws mesolabhsh. Mesolabhths -qa moy epitrecete na pw- einai o k. Bans. O k. Bans einai mesolabhths. Basei kapoias symfwnias poy yparxei, exei analabei me mia orismenh entolh poy toy exei doqei, enan poly sygkekrimeno rolo. Aytos einai mesolabhths.

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: Pantws, an enan ton lene Giwrgo kai o allos epimenei na ton fwnazei Mixalh, diamartyretai.

REPPAS: Nai, otan einai o Giwrgos parwn. An o Giwrgos ayto to agnoei, den mporei na diamartyrhqei. An dhladh o Giwrgos einai parwn, an h Ellada einai paroysa, asfalws, den dexetai na miloyn gia ta nhsia ayta, anaferontas ta ws Karntak.
Sas eyxaristw poly.

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