BRIEFING 24-01-96

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 24.1.1996

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. DHMHTRH REPPA

MELETHS: Epi ths anakoinwsews ayths: Yphrje syzhthsh - peran toy eqimotypikoy xarakthra ths synanthshs - kai gia tis ekkremothtes poy yparxoyn gia thn kataskeyh toy agwgoy;

REPPAS: Nomizw oti h prwth synanthsh toys htan perissotero eqimotypikh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, ti antikeimeno eixe ayth h xqesinh mystikh syskech metajy twn kyriwn Shmith - Pagkaloy kai Geitona;

REPPAS: Nomizw oti sta plaisia ths kybernhtikhs prospaqeias gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn ths xwras, o k. Prwqypoyrgos eixe xqes synergasia me dyo Ypoyrgoys ths Kybernhshs toy gia qemata armodiothtas toys. Antimetwpisthkan trexonta qemata en ocei kai twn Programmatikwn Dhlwsewn. Kai prepei na sas pw oti se ligo kairo, epeidh akribws oi synergasies toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys Ypoyrgoys toy qa einai taktikotates, oi synergasies kai oi synanthseis aytes den apoteloyn pleon eidhsh. Kai parakalw na meinoyme s'ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Htan kapoio eqniko qema;

REPPAS: Parakalw, na meinoyme s'ayto. Oriste, o k. Dhmtsas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oxi, den teleiwsa egw.

REPPAS: Teleiwsa egw!

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla egw prepei na rwthsw: Yphrxe kapoio eqniko qema;

REPPAS: H synanthsh ayth aforoyse - opws eipa - qemata ta opoia apasxoloyn thn Kybernhsh kai aptontai twn tomewn, stoys opoioys proistantai oi dyo Ypoyrgoi oi opoioi synergasthkan xqes me ton k. Prwqypoyrgo. Oriste, o k. Dhmtsas.

DHMTSAS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, meta to prwto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, o k. Shmiths eixe anakoinwsei synedriash ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omados gia thn 6h Febroyarioy. Xqes, sth synedriash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy, akribws ep'aytoy toy qematos, diapistwqhke oti yparxei mia emplokh. H qesh toy k. Shmith gia synedriash ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omados thn 6h Febroyarioy, isxyei;

REPPAS: O k. Shmiths, stis dhlwseis stis opoies proebh amesws meta th synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy ypo th nea toy synqesh, dhlwse oti blepei ws piqanh hmeromhnia gia th sygklhsh ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omados toy PASOK, thn 6h Febroyarioy. Kai ayto meta apo

synennohsh poy qa ginei kai me ta alla organa toy Kinhmatos kai anefere sygkekrimena gia thn Koinoboyleytikh Omada, to Proedreio ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omados. Prepei na sas pw oti den yparxei kammia emplokh. H synodos ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omados qa ginei. Kai nomizw oti qa ejasfalisqoyn oles oi kalyceis kai qa ikanopoihqoyn oloi oi typoi - syntagmatikoi kai alloi - wste na mhn yparxei kammia amfisbhthsh gia th synodo ayth.

KOGIANNHS: Qa zhthsei o k. Prwqypoyrgos ejoysiodothsh apo ton Proedro toy PASOK gia th sygklhsh ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omados;

REPPAS: Kata to Syntagma, ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omados toy Kommatos, proedreyei o Proedros toy Kommatos. Ek twn pragmatwn, ej antikeimenoy, h "aixmh toy doratos" - qa elega - toy PASOK sthn prospaqeia na anasygkrothsoyme tis dynameis mas kai na leitoyrghsoyn syllogika kai dhmokratika ta organa mas, einai o Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Shmiths. To dikaiwma ayto, kata to Syntagma, to exei o Proedros toy Kinhmatos mas Andreas Papandreoy. Einai bebaio oti yparxei synergasia monimh, me thn ennoia oti yparxei symfwnia kai yparxei kalych kai yposthrijh kai ypobohqhsh sto ergo toy Prwqypoyrgoy apo ton Proedro toy Kinhmatos mas. Kai to idio qa ginei kai gia to sygkekrimeno qema, to opoio qesate.

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qelw na rwthsw dyo pragmata, oson afora to prwto qema.

REPPAS: Parakalw!

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: H prwth erwthsh einai an h syskech h xqesinh eixe sxesh me th Germania.

REPPAS: H xqesinh syskech eixe sxesh me qemata ta opoia aforoyn tis armodiothtes twn dyo Ypoyrgwn.

KIAOS: Pali sto idio: Ayto poy anakoinwqhke oti htan sobaro eqniko qema...

REPPAS: Anakoinwqhke oti h syskech ayth aforoyse eqnika qemata.

KIAOS: Nai.

REPPAS: Nomizw oti ayto ta leei ola.

KIAOS: Oxi, alla...

REPPAS: Ayto ta leei ola.

KIAOS: Gi'ayto to eqniko qema...

REPPAS: Ayto ta leei ola. Eqniko qema. Ena trexon eqniko qema. Den doqhke apo poyqena, h dhlwsh, h ermhneia - an qelete - oti aforoyse ena qema poy brisketai se mia ojeia h ektakth ejelijh. Nomizw loipon oti prepei na meinoyme s'ayto. Einai sta plaisia twn trexontwn qematwn, ta opoia antimetwpizei h Kybernhsh dia toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai twn armodiwn kaqe fora Ypoyrgwn ths.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poio einai ayto;

REPPAS: Menoyme s'ayto. Den yparxei allh anakoinwsh ep'aytoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, na grafoyme o,ti qeloyme;

REPPAS: Pisteyw - kai epanerxomai se kati poy eipa prin, epeidh exw apanthsei - oti se ligo

tetoioy eidoys synergasies den qa sas apasxoloyn, giati den qa apoteloyn eidhsh. Einai sta plaisia twn kaqhkontwn toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy kai twn Ypoyrgwn na synergazontai gia ta qemata, ta opoia prepei h Kybernhsh na antimetwpisei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Na mas lete, omws, kai to qema, kyrie Ypoyrge.

REPPAS: Qa hqela ki egw, omws, o dialogos mas na ginetai me kapoia tajh. Me kapoio tetoio tropo wste ki eseis na milate opws eseis qelete ki egw na exw to dikaiwma na apantw opws nomizw oti prepei kai mporw na apanthsw.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Prin kanw to erwthma, to opoio eixa skopo na kanw, eseis, en pash periptwsei, gnwrizete poio einai to eqniko qema poy syzhthqhke xqes;

REPPAS: To eqniko qema to gnwrizoyn oi metasxontes s'ayth th syskech.

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, se o,ti afora ayto to qema: Epeidh kai h "ELEYQEROTY- PIA" to exei prwto qema ths shmera, anaferetai se "ena eqniko qema", kanei entypwsh h apoysia toy Ypoyrgoy Amynas apo ayth th syskech. Qelete na to sxoliasete;

REPPAS: Ekriqh oti to qema poy eixe h Kybernhsh na antimetwpisei, mporoyse kallista na antimetwpisqei sta plaisia ths synergasias twn triwn sygkekrimenwn proswpwn: toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai twn dyo Ypoyrgwn. Oriste, o k. Gargalakos.

GARGALAKOS: Oi kanones ths diafaneias, kyrie Ypoyrge, lene na anakoinwnetai to periexomeno twn syskecewn aytwn, ektos kai an yparxei logos eqnikoy symferontos na mhn anakoinwqei. Edw, yparxei mia arnhsh apo thn pleyra sas na mas anakoinwsete o,tidhpote. Ama mas legate oti to eqniko symferon apaitei thn mh dhmosiopoihsh, entajei, na to katalaboyme.

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh krinei oti den exei na pei tipota perissotero epi toy sygkekrimenoy qematos. Oriste, o k. Mixahl.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eipate otan sas rwthsan prohgoymenws oi synadelfoi, oti h xqesinh synanthsh aforoyse qemata trexonta, poy aptontai twn armodiothtwn twn dyo Ypoyrgwn. Kaloproaireta dinontas thn apanthsh sas, giati xqes den anakoinwsate akribws ayto poy shmera mas lete kai anakoinwsate "eqniko qema"; Diapistwnoyme mia apoklish.

REPPAS: Den yparxei kammia apoklish. Einai aytonohto oti ta qemata poy apasxoloyn kapoioys Ypoyrgoys, oi opoioi synantwntai kai synergazontai, qa einai qemata ths armodiothtas toys. Ayto den xreiazetai na to symperanoyme, einai aytonohto.

MELETHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, hqela na rwthsw to ejhs: Otan temnontai oi armodiothtes toy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn kai toy Ypoyrgoy Dhmosias Tajhs, eylogws, dhmioyrgeitai mia anhsyxia sthn koinh gnwmh, o,ti dhladh ekfrasthke shmera me dhmosieymata, o,ti metadidetai apo toys staqmoys. H Kybernhsh den aisqanetai thn anagkh na kaqhsyxasei thn koinh gnwmh h na dwsei mia ejhghsh gia olo ayto to qorybo poy dhmioyrgeitai;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh aisqanetai thn anagkh - megalh malista anagkh - na antimetwpisei ta problhmata ths xwras. Den aisqanetai kammia anagkh na dwsei peraiterw ejhghseis gia ena qema poy qewrei oti prepei na to antimetwpisei kai na to xeiristei me ton tropo poy to antimetwpizei mexri twra.

MOYRTZHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eipate prohgoymenws oti den dwsate sto qema ayto thn ermhneia

oti to qema einai se ojeia h ektakth ejelijh. Erwtw loipon: Einai qema roytinas;

REPPAS: Einai qema roytinas.

MPOYATAR: Gia thn ekdosh toy Gioygkoslaboy... (sth synexeia den akoygetai eykrinws).

REPPAS: Den sas akoysa poly kala, alla nomizw oti katalaba thn erwthsh sas, apolytws. H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh epraje symfwna me ton Kwdika Poinikhs Dikonomias kai symfwna me thn Ellhno-belgikh Symfwnia toy 1901. Yparxei boyleyma ametaklhto toy Symboylioy Efetwn Peiraiws kai basei aytoy ekdidetai sth Gioygkoslabia o peri oy o logos. Allwste, sta plaisia kai ths Dikonomias kai ths Symfwnias gia thn opoia milhsa prin, problepetai oti o zhtoymenos pros ekdosh mporei na ekdoqei me epilogh ths xwras sthn opoia synelhfqh, sth xwra ths opoias exei thn iqageneia. Kai ayto egine sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh. Poly perissotero poy kai to qyma, sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh, exei thn idia iqageneia.

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, an sth xqesinh syskech meteixate kai eseis.

REPPAS: Oxi, den symmeteixa.

MOYRTHS: Thn Kyriakh poy mas perase (21.1.), prin analabei ta kaqhkonta ths h nea Kybernhsh, yphrje mia synanthsh twn kyriwn Arsenh kai Papoylia gia ena sobarotato eqniko qema, opws eixan dhlwsei kai oi dyo. H Kybernhsh, bebaia, h shmerinh einai mia synexeia ths prohgoymenhs. Gnwrizete poio einai to qema ayto ths syskechs ths Kyriakhs, poy metaferqhke en synexeia apo to spiti toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn; Exei sxesh me to xqesino qema;

REPPAS: Den exw eidikh enhmerwsh epi toy qematos aytoy. O k. Laskaridhs exei to logo.

LASKARIDHS: O Prwqypoyrgos exei thn proqesh na sygkalesei thn Koinoboyleytikh Omada. Mhpws qa epidiwjei kapoia nea epafh me ton Proedro toy PASOK;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos qa exei ayrio ( 25.1.) synanthsh me to Proedreio ths Koinoboyley- tikhs Omados. Qa apasxolhqoyn me qemata poy aforoyn th leitoyrgia ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omados. Kai ana pasa stigmh, einai piqano kai dynato na yparjei ayth h synanthsh - sthn opoia anaferqhkate - giati ayto einai dedomeno sta plaisia ths leitoyrgias twn koinoboyleyti- kwn, kybernhtikwn kai kommatikwn organwn. To PASOK einai eniaio, opws exw pei kat'epanalhch. Oriste, o k. Oikonomidhs.

OIKONOMIDHS: Sth xqesinh synedriash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy - kai den exei na kanei mono me dhmosiografikes plhrofories, alla kai me dhlwseis melwn toy shmera sta Mesa Enhmerwshs - eipwqhke oti o Prwqypoyrgos kai h Kybernhsh den exoyn to dikaiwma na epilhfqoyn qematwn, opws ekeino ths tropopoihshs toy eklogikoy nomoy, giati den perilambano- ntai sto programma toy PASOK kai stis Programmatikes Dhlwseis ths prohgoymenhs Kybernhshs. Ayto, pws to sxoliazete;

REPPAS: Sxoliazw poly apla: To PASOK me ta organa toy einai ena dhmokratiko komma, to opoio asxoleitai me tis politikes ejelijeis kai ekei ekfrazontai eleyqera oi apoceis twn melwn twn organwn toy. Kai oi qeseis gia ta epi meroys qemata ths Kybernhshs - gia thn opoia egw omilw ayth th stigmh - sas einai apolytws safeis kai gnwstes:
* Den antimetwpizoyme qema eklogikoy nomoy.
* Den antimetwpizoyme qema mh ejantlhshs ths kybernhtikhs mas qhteias gia oloklhrh thn tetraetia.

OIKONOMIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, den anaferomoyn sto an sas apasxolei, alla sto an exete to dikaiwma na apasxolhqeite ws Kybernhsh.

REPPAS: Pisteyw oti sta plaisia toy eniaioy PASOK, ta organa - koinoboyleytika, kybernhtika kai kommatika - me toys diakritoys toys roloys, kaqe fora asxoloyntai me ta qemata toy dikoy toys xwroy kai ths dikhs toys armodiothtas. Kai yparxei synergasia, giati to politiko kinhma sto opoio sthrizetai ayth h Kybernhsh einai to PASOK, opws gnwrizete, h opoia synergasia gia ola ta qemata exei apanthseis kai lyseis.

OIKONOMIDHS: Prwtoboylia gia ton eklogiko nomo qewreite oti mporei na exei h Kybernhsh, an krinei oti prepei;

REPPAS: Exw apanthsei.

POYLIDOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, epeidh xqes stis apofaseis toy Ektelestikoy, htan na synanthqei kai o k. Skandalidhs me ton k. Prwqypoyrgo en ocei twn Programmatikwn Dhlwsewn, h erwthsh moy einai an proseklhqh o Prwqypoyrgos sth synedriash toy Ektelestikoy xqes h an prokeitai na proskaleitai sto plaisio ths synergasias...

REPPAS: Einai monimh, taktikh, oysiastikh kai apodotikh h synergasia poy yparxei metajy ths Kybernhshs, ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omados kai toy Kommatos, to opoio ekfrazetai sthn koryfaia toy ekproswphsh me to Ektelestiko Grafeio. Kai nomizw oti to Ektelestiko Grafeio kai sth xqesinh toy synedriash, alla kai en synexeia qa kanei ta panta, wste idiaiterws, twra en ocei twn Programmatikwn Dhlwsewn, na ejoplisei sto megalytero dynato baqmo thn Kybernhsh kai eidikotera ton Prwqypoyrgo, prokeimenoy na antapokriqei sto ergo toy.

POYLIDOY: Epi toy sygkekrimenoy: Proseklhqh xqes o k. Shmiths;

REPPAS: Apanthsa, kyria Poylidoy. Xqes, egine synedriash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy.

BAREMENOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, dieykrinistika hqela na rwthsw: Milhsate gia organa poy exoyn diakrites armodiothtes (kapws etsi to eipate). En pash periptwsei, h allagh toy eklogikoy nomoy einai armodiothta toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy h ths Kybernhshs;

REPPAS: H allagh toy eklogikoy nomoy einai qema poy den apasxolei ayth thn wra thn Kybernhsh. Ej oswn gnwrizw, den apasxolei kai to PASOK. H qesh mas einai safhs kai dedomenh.

BAREMENOS: Tinos einai armodiothta;

REPPAS: To PASOK exei eswterikes, katastatikes leitoyrgies, basei twn opoiwn pairnei tis apofaseis toy. Otan to PASOK exei apoch gia to sygkekrimeno qema, qa sas ginei gnwsth. Parakalw, o k. Gargalakos.

GARGALAKOS: Mhpws jerete, kyrie Ekproswpe, an h Kybernhsh protiqetai, sto ameso xroniko diasthma, na antikatasthsei tis dioikhseis twn Dhmosiwn Organismwn kai twn Trapezwn;

REPPAS: Ayto einai ena qema gia to opoio apanthsa kai xqes. Qewrw oti den einai toy parontos. Oriste, o k. Elenopoylos.

ELENOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw an en ocei twn Programmatikwn Dhlwsewn sth Boylh yparxei diastash apocewn metajy twn kyriwn Shmith kai Arsenh gia ta kondylia toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas poy exei proanaggeilei o k. Arsenhs. Kai deyteron an yphrje thlefwnikh epikoinwnia me ton k. Arsenh kai ti periexomeno eixe.

REPPAS: Nomizw oti einai poly prowro na odhghqoyme se symperasmata me bash ypoqeseis. Oi kybernhtikes dhlwseis kai oi Programmatikes Dhlwseis einai en ocei. Kai nomizw oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa synergastei me oloys toys Ypoyrgoys, me tis diadikasies oi opoies exoyn prolexqei, wste oi Programmatikes Dhlwseis na einai Programmatikes Dhlwseis oi opoies na ekfrazoyn thn Kybernhsh.

ELENOPOYLOS: Yparxei diastash apocewn h oxi;

REPPAS: Kanena problhma.

CNN: Hqela na rwthsw an h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh hrqe se epafh me th Bonnh sxetika me mia ereyna h opoia diejagetai gia piqanh anamijh ths Intracom me th STAZI;

REPPAS: Einai qema to opoio apasxolei tis armodies yphresies. Den exw tipote eidikotero na pw, sygkekrimena twra.

DHMTSAS: H efhmerida AYRIANH kalei shmera ton Prwqypoyrgo na parembei se ena "skandalo Libanh, Petzetakh kai Katsifara". Prokeitai na yparjei kapoia parembash kybernhtikh;

REPPAS: Einai h gnwmh, h qesh, to reportaz ths efhmeridas. Einai diko ths reportaz, ekeinh ekfrazei. Egw den exw na pw tipota ayth th stigmh epi toy qematos aytoy. T.

MPERMPERAKHS: Metadidetai oti o k. Aqens zhthse apo ton Proedro Klinton na diorisei ton k. Xolmproyk eidiko syntonisth gia to Kypriako. Symfwnei me ayto kai h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh;

REPPPAS: H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh parakoloyqei tis drasthriothtes toy k. Aqens, o opoios ws gnwrizete einai Proedros toy Symboylioy Apodhmoy Ellhnismoy. Oi apoceis toy exoyn endiaferon. Emeis den exoyme kanena logo na anamixqoyme sta eswterika mias allhs xwras.

MIXAHL: Einai kai Arkas sthn katagwgh, aytos.

REPPAS: Oloi, ypo mia ennoia, eimaste Arkades! Apla, polloi den to jeroyn, akoma! Mh me kathgorhsete gia swbinismo! Kai eidika o k. Zerbonikolakhs poy einai Krhtikos!

KAKABAS: Mias kai milame gia thn Arkadia, exete tipota perissotero gia ta xqesina sthn Tripolh;

REPPAS: Gia to qema ayto, gnwrizw oti egine eidikh syzhthsh sto Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas. Egine eidiko briefing gia to qema ayto, to sygkekrimeno. Kai en pash periptwsei exoyn lhfqei ola ta metra. Kai nomizw oti to problhma antimetwpizetai sto synolo toy.

KIAOS: Emeine anapanthth omws h erwthsh toy synadelfoy. Symfwnei h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh na mpei o Xolmproyk ws eidikos mesolabhths;

REPPAS: Loipon, allh erwthsh. Oriste, o k. Moyrtzhs.

MOYRTZHS: Apantwntas se prohgoymenh erwthsh synadelfoy gia thn ereyna poy diejagetai sthn xwra mas eipate oti "einai qema poy apasxolei tis armodies yphresies kai den exw tipota na pw twra". Erwtw loipon: Poies einai oi armodies yphresies kai an qa exete na peite kati meta to peras ths ereynas;

REPPAS: Apanthsa molis prohgoymenws. Kai qa meinw se ayto, parakalw.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Den qelw na mas prosdiorisete to xarakthra twn Programmatikwn Dhlwsewn, alla epeidh yparxei mia dhlwsh toy k. Pagkaloy o opoios dhlwse oti kata th gnwmh toy, pragmatika sthn Ellada den exei efarmostei litothta, qa hqela na jerw an ayth h apoch toy k. Pagkaloy einai kai apoch ths Kybernhshs; Kai qa hqela na sas zhthsw kai ena sxolio gia osa dhlwse xqes se jenh efhmerida o k. Andrianopoylos.

REPPAS: Gia osa dhlwse o k. Andrianopoylos, as erwthqei na dieykrinisei, an prepei na dieykrinisei kati, o idios o k. Andrianopoylos. Oi apoceis toy k. Andrianopoyloy parakoloy- qoyntai apo oloys mas kai ajiologoyntai analogws. Egw exw na pw gia to allo qema oti ayth thn wra brisketai se ejelijh h synergasia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys Ypoyrgoys, oi opoioi me kapoia ypomnhmata toys qetoyn yp' och toy Prwqypoyrgoy qemata ths armodiothtas toy o kaqenas, prokeimenoy na etoimastei o Prwqypoyrgos gia thn anagnwsh twn Programmatikwn Dhlwsewn ths Kybernhshs. Einai poly prowro nomizw na milhsoyme gia thn kybernhtikh politikh, toso poly ejeidikeymena - qa einai kai aprepes isws - prin yparjoyn oi Programmatikes Dhlwseis ths Kybernhshs.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Na ypoqesw kyrie Ypoyrge, oti me thn apanthsh sas lete peripoy oti einai anarmodios na mila o k. Pagkalos gia oikonomika zhthmata;

REPPAS: Eseis mporei na ypoqetete o,ti qelete. Den qa sas to apagoreysw egw. O k. Pagkalos asfalws den einai armodios gia thn oikonomikh politikh, alla kaqe anqrwpos paramenei armodios, wste perhfana kai eleyqera na leei tis apoceis toy.

LASKARIDHS: Epeidh kyrie Ypoyrge, kai sto shmerino Typo, ena apo ta prwta qemata einai ta peri synanthsewn kai epikoinwnias toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Xaralampopoylo, mhpws h Kybernhsh exei na kanei shmera kapoies neoteres dieykriniseis gia to qema;

REPPAS: Gia poio qema k. Laskaridh;

LASKARIDHS: Pote egine, an egine epikoinwnia k.lp. Pantws yparxei zhthma epeidh paramenei kai sthn epikairothta.

REPPAS: To qema exei kleisei. Den exw na kanw kammia dhlwsh. Ayto omws poy qelw na kanw, einai na dhlwsw oti o k. Xaralampopoylos exei thn timh, thn agaph kai ton sebasmo olwn mas.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Ep' aytoy, dhmioyrgeitai ena qema kyrie Ypoyrge: O idios o Prwqypoyrgos eqese to zhthma, xwris kan na erwthqei, se dhlwseis toy. Apefyge, omws - entexnws egw pisteyw - na kaqorisei to xrono poy egine h thlefwnikh epikoinwnia me ton k. Xaralampopoylo. Eseis, bghkate kai eipate xqes oti h epikoinwnia egine prin thn anakoinwsh twn onomatwn ths Kybernhsews. O k. Xaralampopoylos to diaceydei kathgorhmatika, epanhlqe xqes. Poios leei alhqeia kai poios ceydetai en pash periptwsei;

REPPAS: To qema nomizw oti exei apanthqei kai den yparxei pleon qema.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Dhladh, ceydetai o k. Xaralampopoylos;

REPPAS: Den yparxei pleon qema. Apanthsa prin.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ypoyrge, xqes otan erwthqhkate, dwsate dyo apanthseis. H prwth apanthsh htan oti "o k. Xaralampopoylos ejefrase tis apoceis toy kai paramenw se aytes". H deyterh apanthsh, se erwthsh toy k. Kanellopoyloy htan epi lejei h ejhs: "egine h epikoinwnia prin, opws anefere o Prwqypoyrgos".

REPPAS: Ti "prin"; Den katalaba.

MIXAHL: Prin thn anakoinwsh ths Kybernhsews. Lete eseis. O k. Xaralampopoylos epimenei oti egine meta. Ayto diamorfwnei mia diastash apocewn toy pragmatikoy gegonotos. Epimenete eseis sthn apanthsh sas oti egine prin thn anakoinwsh ths Kybernhsews h epikoinwnia Shmith - Xaralampopoyloy;

REPPAS: Epanerxomai se osa eipa xqes kai osa eipa molis prin.

CNN: Pote qa synanthqei o Prwqypoyrgos me ton k. Nails;

REPPAS: Nomizw oti den exei orisqei akribhs hmeromhnia. Yparxei mia synennohsh h opoia qa exei na kanei me to programma toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy alla kai me toy k. Nails poy nomizw oti gia kapoies meres qa apoysiazei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati anablhqhke jafnika xqes h synanthsh;

REPPAS: Symfwnhqhke kai apo tis dyo pleyres oti den eprepe na ginei shmera, logw fortoy ergasias toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poios thn eixe zhthsei th synanthsh;

REPPAS: H synanthsh ayth - opws katalabainete s' aytes tis periptwseis - otan eklegetai enas neos Prwqypoyrgos, ginetai meta apo prwtoboylia - aithma qa elega - twn presbeytwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai thn anabolh;

REPPAS: Meta apo synennohsh, kai oi dyo pleyres katelhjan oti prepei na ginei kapoia allh stigmh logw fortoy ergasias.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, dedomenoy oti me thn nea synqesh ths Kybernhsews, yphrje kapoia - kata kapoio tropo - anadiatajh twn Ypoyrgeiwn. Exoyme kai ena neo "Yperypoyrgeio", to Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs. Ejetazei o Prwqypoyrgos to endexomeno na kanei nea diakrish armodiothtwn; Kai eidika, oson afora ta koinotika kondylia, metajy toy neoy Ypoyrgeioy Anaptyjews kai toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Oikonomias; Prokeitai dhladh na metaferqoyn armodiothtes toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Oikonomias sto Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjews;

REPPAS: Den yparxei tetoia apofash ayth thn wra. Qa sygkrothqoyn ta kybernhtika organa kai tote qa lhfqoyn kai oi oristikes apofaseis.

MELETHS: Metadoqhke to prwi apo kapoioys antapokrites ellhnikwn radiothleoptikwn meswn oti dhmosieyetai - stoys NEW YORK TIMES nomizw - sxolio gia thn Ellada kai mesa se ayto mia dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, o opoios kanei logo gia thn apostash poy xwrizei th xwra mas apo thn Eyrwph k.lp. Yparxei tetoia dhlwsh;

REPPAS: Anaferesqe se dhmosieyma twn WASHINGTON TIMES, nomizw. O k. Shmiths den exei dwsei kammia synenteyjh, den exei kanei kammia dhlwsh, den eixe kammia epikoinwnia me

antapokrith h dhmosiografo opoiasdhpote efhmeridas. Aplws, toy apodidetai ayth h apoch, etsi opws anaferetai sto dhmosieyma ths sygkekrimenhs efhmeridas. Oi qeseis toy k. Shmith, allwste, einai gnwstes kai safestates.

LASKARIDHS: Yparxei kati neotero gia th stelexwsh toy Grafeioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy, gia th synqesh ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs h allwn Epitropwn ths Kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Ayth thn wra, den yparxei tipota pio sygkekrimeno.

MIXAHL: To "mh sygkekrimeno" poio einai;

REPPAS: Den yparxei tipota sygkekrimeno gia to sygkekrimeno qema. Poy shmainei oti den yparxei katalhjh, den yparxei oristikh apofash. Gia onoma toy Qeoy! Sas eyxaristw poly.