[01] K. Xatzhdakhs: Yparxei dioikhtiko elleimma, xreiazetai diypoyrgikos syntonismos

Synenteyjh sthn ekpomph ``Sta mesa kai sta ejw'' me ton Giannh Pantelakh.

Akoloyqei apospasma ths synenteyjhs:

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: ``Aporrofame ligotera kondylia apo ayta poy emfanizei h kybernhsh;''

K. XATZHDAKHS: ``To pio shmantiko einai oti exoyme mia aporrofhsh apo ta tameia xartofylakioy. Einai kapoia tameia, poy ypotiqetai oti qa eprepe na enisxysoyn kyriws tis mikromesaies epixeirhseis, ta opoia exoyn aporrofhsei panw apo 1 dis, alla ta xrhmata ayta den exoyn dioxeteytei sthn agora. Einai "parkarismena" kondylia. An den eixame ayth th dieykolynsh apo thn EE, me thn ayjhsh toy posostoy synxrhmatodothshs kai an prosqesete kai ayto me ta tameia xartofylakioy qa katalhjete oti, enw h aporrofhsh einai epishmws 33% kai kati, katebainoyme 9 monades parakatw sto 24,5%. Ayto einai ejairetika epwdyno kai to antilambanetai h agora.''

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: ``Giati symbainei h xamhlh aporrofhtikothta;''

K. XATZHDAKHS: ``Yparxei ena dioikhtiko elleimma, dhladh se 20 mhnes topoqethqhkan 3 diaforetikoi epopteyontes yfypoyrgoi gia to ESPA. O genikos grammateas ependysewn ekane na dioristei 6 mhnes, htan kenh h qesh. To programma exei sxediastei to 2005-2006, yphrxe h yposxesh oti qa anaqewrhqei to ESPA, eimaste sto 2012 den exei proxwrhsei h anaqewrhsh. Yparxei epishs mia grafeiokratia. Yparxoyn zhthmata diaxeiristika, xreiazetai enas diypoyrgikos syntonismos, na doyme eidika to problhma ths reystothtas sthn agora kai xreiazetai plhrhs ajiopoihsh twn dynatothtwn ths Eyrwpaikhs trapezas ependysewn kai exoyn ginei bhmata tis teleytaies meres. Yparxei ena periqwrio beltiwshs.''

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: ``To oti einai parkarismeno 1 dis kai den exei mpei sthn agora, pws mporoyn na ajiopoihqoyn ayta ta kondylia;''

K. XATZHDAKHS: ``Qa mporoysan na bgoyn me kapoies apeyqeias epixorhghseis sto plaisio toy ependytikoy nomoy, gia paradeigma. Symfwnhqhke na mpoyn mesa sth diadikasia kai oi trapezes, wste na yparxei ena pollaplasiastiko apotelesma, na exoyme ayta ta tameia xartofylakioy, ta opoia qa mporoysan na dinoyn ta xrhmata kai ypo morfh daneiwn, ta xrhmata ayta na epistrefoyn pisw kai na janaxrhsimopoioyntai kai sthn epomenh periodo. Olos aytos o sxediasmos qewrhtika egine, sthn prajh omws den leitoyrghse kai logw twn problhmatwn poy exei to trapeziko systhma, alla kai logw toy oti htan fobera grafeiokratikos.''

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: ``An epefte ayto to 1 dis sthn agora, ayto mporoyse na metafrastei se nees qeseis ergasias, h se diathrhsh yfistamenwn qesewn ergasias;''

K. XATZHDAKHS: ``Sigoyra qa dhmioyrgoyse qeseis ergasias, den qa allaze h moira toy topoy, alla sigoyra qa htan mia oysiastikh enesh kai gia thn reystothta kai gia thn apasxolhsh se kapoio baqmo. To ESPA den ftanei apo mono toy, prepei na doyme ton ependytiko nomo, to ETEAM, ti qa kanei kaqena apo ayta ta ergaleia kai na doyme pws qa antimetwpistei to megalo problhma ths reystothtas. Einai qetiko to oti ginetai h anakefalaiopoihsh twn trapezwn, alla xreiazomaste oysiastikes eneseis reystothtas.''

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[02] G. Magkriwths: Den yphrxe melethtikh wrimothta apo th ND gia ta dhmosia erga

Synenteyjh sthn ekpomph ``Sta mesa kai sta ejw'' me ton Giannh Pantelakh.

Akoloyqei apospasma ths synenteyjhs:

G. MAGKRIWTHS: ``Den yphrxe melethtikh wrimothta, giati ta dhmosia erga qeloyn 3-4 xronia proetoimasia kai 4-5 xronia kataskeyh, de ginontai apo th mia mera sthn allh. An mas eixe afhsei meletes wrimes h ND, to 2010 qa dhmopratoysame para polla erga, den hmastan blakes na mhn ta dhmoprathsoyme. De mas afhse melethtikh wrimothta kai gi' ayto oi dhmoprathseis to 2010 sta sygxrhmatodotoymena htan 260 ekat. eyrw.''

G. MAGKRIWTHS: ``Ta erga apo eqnikoys poroys den pane kaqoloy kala. Dioti, den yparxoyn eqnikoi poroi. Bebaia, einai periorismenos ariqmos. H ND eixe balei ston proypologismo toy 2009 1 ½ dis amigws eqnikoys poroys gia erga, dhmoprathse erga me amigws eqnikoys poroys, kakista, giati hjere thn katastash ths oikonomias kai th dynatothta toy PDE ta epomena xronia. Ayta eginan gia proeklogikoys logoys.''

G. MAGKRIWTHS: ``O enas (aytokinhtodromos) einai o Moreas Kentrikhs Peloponnhsoy. Ekei phge prosfata o kyrios Samaras me ton kyrio Boridh. Emeis xairomaste. O kyrios Samaras, paroti lene oti einai antipoliteysh, phge kai qemeliwse ena ergo. Ayto einai para poly kalo, giati ta erga einai diaxronika, den einai kamias kybernhshs, einai ths xwras mas.''

G. MAGKRIWTHS: ``Edw kai 1 ½ xrono stamathsan oi ergasies (stoys aytokinhtodromoys) giati stamathsan oi trapezes na xrhmatodotoyn ta erga. To xrhmatodotiko meigma aytwn twn ergwn einai: 25% eqnikoi kai koinotikoi poroi, 28% diodia, kakws, kakista, diodia kata th diarkeia ths kataskeyhs, mono sthn Ellada exei ginei ayto, gi' ayto kai exoyme megala problhmata, 8% oi ergolaboi kai 42% oi trapezes. Einai oi symbaseis paraxwrhshs poy ekane o kyrios Soyflias to 2007. Eixame diamartyrhqei tote gia to meigma ths xrhmatodothshs, qa eixame problhmata, kai ta exoyme. Oi trapezes qewroyn oti ta erga pleon den einai biwsima, giati qewroyn oti den einai biwsimh h xwra. Oi jenes den empisteyontai thn Ellada, oi ellhnikes den exoyn xrhmata. Gia na jekinhsoyn ta erga prepei na pathsoyn sta podia toys oi trapezes. H prepei na ypokatastaqoyn oi idiwtikes trapezes, giati to dhmosio den ofeilei tipota sta erga ayta, ta exei plhrwsei ola, prepei na xrhmatodothqoyn apo thn Eyrwpaikh Trapeza Ependysewn. Ayto to sxedio jekinhsame to kalokairi me ton kyrio Raixenmpax.''

G. MAGKRIWTHS: ``An ta erga ayta doyleyan qa mas edinan 10% aporrofhsh akoma toy ESPA, 50 me 80.000 qeseis apasxolhshs kai 1% toy AEP kaqe xrono.''

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[03] K. Markopoylos: Makari na enwsoyme tis dynameis mas me ton k. Dhmara

Synenteyjh sthn ekpomph ``Akrws Radiofwniko kai aporrhto'' me ton Takh Saranth kai ton Panagiwth Tsoytsia.

Akoloyqei apospasma ths synenteyjhs:

K. MARKOPOYLOS: ``Otan kaneis kati me th qelhsh soy, otan kaneis kati panw sto opoio ependyeis politika, to pisteyeis, de xreiazetai poly xrono. Otan kaneis kati katanagkastiko, tote de soy bgainei kai arxizeis kai parektrepesai. Paradeigmatos xarin, Adwnis Gewrgiadhs. Kanei kati poy den toy bgainei, kai gi' ayto parektrepetai.''

K. MARKOPOYLOS: ``O fobos twn anqrwpwn kai h anasfaleia kapoiwn politikwn, dhmioyrgoyn aisqhmata antipaqeias mesa toys, poy toys bgainei ws ybris. H ybris oydepote sthn politikh odhghse se kalo limani, pantote apoprosanatolizei. Kai se telikh analysh, oi ybreis kai oi kathgories einai endeijh adynamias, den einai endeijh dynamhs.''

K. MARKOPOYLOS: ``Oi synergasies den exoyn mesa oyte proswpikes latreies, oyte titloys kommatwn. Oi kybernhtikes synergasies exoyn mono programmata.''

K. MARKOPOYLOS: ``Einai dynaton na omnyoyme se mia diaforetikh lysh enantion toy mnhmonioy kai na pame na sygkybernhsoyme gia to mnhmonio 2; E, prepei na eimaste oi megalyteroi kwlotoympes apo oloys toys alloys poy kanane toses kwlotoympes edw kai kati bdomades h mhnes.''

GIA ENDEXOMENH SYNERGASIA ME DHMARA

K. MARKOPOYLOS: ``H syzhthsh paei para poly kala. Makari na einai. Einai mia eleyqerh fwnh, mia fwnh ths koinhs logikhs, me koinwnikes kai politikes eyaisqhsies. Jerw oti einai enas anqrwpos, o opoios ki ekeinos espase tis alysides ths kommatikhs toy ypoxrewshs. Ton timw gi' ayto, einai dikh toy apofash. Qa synexisw na ton timw, o,ti apofash ki an parei. Makari na enwsei tis dynameis mazi mas.''

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[04] P. Mpegliths: Prepei na anoijoyn ola ta kleista epaggelmata

Synenteyjh sthn ekpomph ``Akrws Radiofwniko kai Aporrhto'' me ton Takh Saranth kai ton Panagiwth Tsoytsia.

Akoloyqei apospasma ths synenteyjhs:

GIA TAJI

P. MPEGLITHS: ``Einai alhqeia oti yparxei mia poly megalh kaqysterhsh sthn ylopoihsh desmeysewn mas apenanti stoys eyrwpaioys etairoys mas, ena qema poy mas talaipwrhse me xeirismoys, prajeis kai paralhceis. Prepei na anoijei to epaggelma twn tajitzhdwn xwris asteriskoys, opws kai ola ta kleista mexri shmera epaggelmata, asxetws an yparxei mia syzhthsh h opoia dystyxws sthn Ellada den egine gia to kata poso mporei kaneis na epibebaiwsei episthmonika kai oikonomika oles ekeines tis meletes poy eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas ta prohgoymena dyo xronia peri megalhs makroproqesma ayjhshs toy eqnikoy eisodhmatos apo to anoigma twn kleistwn epaggelmatwn.''

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: `` Eixe dikio o kos Ragkoyshs;''

P. MPEGLITHS: ``Asfalws, exei ena basiko dikio o kos Ragkoyshs oti den prepei na paizoyme me tis lejeis, otan leme apeleyqerwsh ennooyme apeleyqerwsh, symfwnw epi ths arxhs gia ayto.''

GIA NOMIMOPOIHMENA AYQAIRETA

P. MPEGLITHS: ``H ND den mporei na ajiopoiei prosxhmatika, na briskei bolika alloqi, epeidh den qelei na analabei tis eyqynes tis se ayto to sxedio toy eqnikoy forologikoy systhmatos na briskei aformes gia na proxwrhsei gia logoys mikrokommatikoys kai proeklogikoys.

Den einai xwris fobo kai paqos mporw na pw h kalyterh diaxeirish poy egine. Egine me ena tropo poly espeysmeno, aproetoimasto, poly proxeiro, pera omws apo ayto den payei na apotelei ena tekmhrio kai to ypogeio kai h sofita poy exoyme sto spiti mas. Qa th xarakthriza mia atyxh epilogh se mia dyskolh sygkyria.''

GIA STRATOPEDA

P. MPEGLITHS: ``Se kamia periptwsh to kleisimo twn stratopedwn, poy kata thn apoch moy qa prepei na apotelei strathgikh epilogh sto plaisio toy ejorqologismoy twn dapanwn toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas, den prepei na syndeqei me thn trexoysa syzhthsh gia thn aneyresh xwrwn ana tis Perifereies ths Elladas gia thn egkatastash, thn idrysh kentrwn proswrinhs krathshs. Ayta ta qemata einai poly sobara gia na trexoyme espeysmena na ta kalycoyme h na epizhtoyme lyseis 30 meres prin tis ekloges. Einai gegonos oti h politikh atzenta gyrw apo ta qemata ths paranomhs metanasteyshs exei metakinhqei akrodejia kata tropo epikindyno. Den miloyme parallhla gia mia oloklhrwmenh strathgikh diaxeirishs toy zhthmatos ths paranomhs metanasteyshs, opoy h prwth qemeliwdhs proteraiothta prepei na einai h fylajh twn ejwterikwn synorwn.''

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[05] G. Boydoyrhs: O EOPYY dexetai polemo giati qigei symferonta

Shmera, o EOPYY exei plhrwsei to farmako, entos ths ebdomadas plhrwnontai klinikes, ergasthriakoi giatroi, fysikoqerapeytes kai giatroi, shmeiwse o k. Boydoyrhs.

O proedros toy EOPYY milhse gia kaqhmerinh maxh, en mesw ths oikonomikhs yfeshs, kai dieykrinise oti o organismos synthreitai kata 80% apo tis eisfores twn asfalismenwn, xarakthrizontas poly kalh th ryqmish Koytroymanh gia ypobaqmish asfalistikwn kathgoriwn.

Me to 50% toy proypologismoy twn ejodwn na einai to farmako, periorizetai asfyktika h leitoyrgia toy organismoy, eipe o k. Boydoyrhs, tonizontas oti qa xreiastei xrhmatodothsh apo ton kratiko proypologismo - h opoia apo 0,6% toy AEP egine 0,4%.

O k. Boydoyrhs kalese gia ena neo mellon, mesa apo ejoikonomhsh kai allhleggyh, ypogrammizontas oti o EOPYY einai to teleytaio propyrgio.

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[06] G. Sgoyros - G. Tsarmpopoylos gia toys metanastes

Se olh thn Eyrwph yparxoyn kentra filojenias, na to doyme me anqrwpia, shmeiwse o perifereiarxh Attikhs, epishmainontas oti perissoteroi apo 1 ekat. anqrwpoi eiserxontai paranoma sth xwra, me thn pleionothta aytwn na prowqeitai sthn Aqhna, se akatoikhta spitia, opoy toys ekmetalleyontai me adhlwth ergasia.

Gia ayjhmenh anasfaleia kai fobo milhse o k. Sgoyros, ypogrammizontas oti ta texnika zhthmata einai deytereyonta, to qema einai h apokatastash ths asfaleias twn politwn.

O k. Sgoyros eipe oti qa epidothqoyn osoi epilegoyn na epistrecoyn stis patrides toys, dieykrinizontas oti ejairoyntai aytoi me politiko problhma, ki ekane logo gia presbeies poy den synergazontai gia thn paroxh twn armodiwn eggrafwn.

Opws kai na to onomasoyme, prokeitai gia dioikhtikh krathsh, tonise o k. Tsarmpopoylos, shmeiwnontas oti o organismos exei epifylajeis, kaqws anamesa stoys metanastes xwris nomima eggrafa, kapoioi den exoyn prosbash sthn P. Rallh gia aithma asyloy.

Symfwna me ton idio, prohgeitai h katagrafh omadwn me diaforetika xarakthristika kai milhse gia asylo stoys prosfyges, taktopoihsh kai nomimopoihsh oswn ergazontai sthn Ellada kai gia sxedio epistrofhs oswn paranomoyn h den exoyn kamia prooptikh entajhs.

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[07] Qa synergastoyme me toys antimnhmoniakoys dhlwnei o G. Dhmaras

Mexri thn teleytaia stigmh, qa synexisoyme ton dialogo, anefere xarakthristika jekaqarizontas oti to KKE exei apo mono toy apofasisei na mhn symmetasxei enw yparxei syzhthsh me ton SYRIZA, me ton Fwth Koybelh, me toys Oikologoys Prasinoys enw den apekleise kai syzhthsh me toys Anejarthtoys Ellhnes toy Panoy Kammenoy.

Erwthqeis gia ton teleytaio, shmeiwse me emfash oti gia na xarakthristei kapoios dejios h aristeros ejartatai apo ton tropo poy symperiferetai parathrwntas oti yparxoyn proodeytikoi polites oi opoioi exoyn chfisei ND.

``Se aytoys den apagoreyetai na dhlwnoyn oti einai antimnhmoniakoi'' eipe xarakthristika.

Poy mporoyme na synanthqoyme

Se oles tis syzhthseis poy exoyn ginei, shmeiwse o Giannhs Dhmaras, exoyme proteinei mia xarta symfwnias gia 10 koina shmeia proseggishs.

Prwto apo ayta, opws anefere einai h yperaspish twn eqnikwn mas dikaiwn.

Ekei, opws eipe, den zhtas kommatikh taytothta gia na synanthqeis me ton allon.

Deytero shmeio synanthshs, kata ton idio, einai ena koino metwpo wste na mhn yparjei meiwsh misqwn kai syntajewn enw ena trito shmeio einai h kaqierwsh ths aplhs analogikhs.

Oi ekloges qa ginoyn twra me nomo Paylopoyloy, o opoios problepei 50 edres mponoys gia ayton poy qa erqei prwtos

Einai, kata synepeia poly piqano, symfwna me ton k. Dhmara, ta dyo prwhn megala kommata, na mhn sygkentrwnoyn pososta megalytera toy 50% kai na xoyme sygkybernhsh PASOK kai ND me mponoys penhnta edrwn.

Etsi, opws anefere, enw o laos qa exei mia antimnhmoniakh stash h ayrianh kybernhsh qa apoteleitai apo anqrwpoys poy yperaspizontai to mnhmonio.

Ekloges to taxytero

O Giannhs Dhmaras, ypogrammise oti oi ekloges qa prepei na ginoyn to taxytero dynato kai kalese toys polites na proselqoyn stis kalpes.

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[08] Epimeroys ryqmiseis gia Asfalistiko sto nomosxedio toy yp. Ergasias

Taytoxrona parateinetai mexri 30 Aprilioy h dynatothta ryqmishs twn kaqysterhmenwn asfalistikwn eisforwn pros to IKA enw oi ergazomenoi sta barea kai anqygieina twn opoiwn h eidikothta apoxarakthristhke, mporoyn na ejagorasoyn ews 1.200 plasmatika enshma etsi wste na symplhrwsoyn ta 3.600.

Epipleon, apo thn 1h Maioy, oi asfalistikes eisfores yper toy IKA qa ginontai ypoxrewtika mesw twn trapezwn.

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