[01] K. Karamanlhs: "Ypeyqynothta h aneyqynothta"

"Biwnoyme mia jexwristh epoxh logw ths krishs", anefere o prwqypoyrgos kai prosqese oti prepei na meiwsoyme tis synepeies gia thn xwra mas kai na trejoyme gia na prolaboyme tis ejelijeis sthn meta thn krish epoxh.

Exoyme dyo dromoys, synexise o k. Karamanlhs: "o ena einai o dromos ths aneyqynothtas, toy mhdenismoy, toy na pontarei kaneis sto "oxi se ola", na ependyei sthn skandalologia, otan malista barynetai apo thn sygkalych terastiwn skandalwn, opws to egklhma toy xrhmatisthrioy sto parelqon toy". Apo thn allh, tonise einai o dromos ths ypeyqynothtas, poy shmainei dyskoles apofaseis. Den einai mia periodos san oles tis alles, eipe o Kwstas Karamanlhs kai prosqese oti einai epoxh poy prepei na proxwrhsoyme se dyskoles apofaseis kai stis aparaithtes metarryqmiseis kai xreiazetai politiko qarros.

O k. Karamanlhs eipe oti einai xreos toy na parei tis dyskoles apofaseis para to politiko kostos.

"Eimaste xwra me adynamies, alla kai me megales dynatothtes. To dromo twn apofasewn, twn allagwn kai twn metarryqmisewn kalw toys polites na ton kanoyme mazi", katelhje o k. Karamanlhs.

Sthn ejwterikh politikh ths kybernhshs toy anaferqhke o prwqypoyrgos apantwntas sthn prwth erwthsh ths thleoptikhs anametrhshs.

H kybernhsh petyxe mia seira apo shmantika apotelesmata ston tomea ayto, tonise o k. Karamanlhs kai ejhghse oti h Ellada sthrije ths Kypro sto sxedio Anan, symfwna me thn symparastash ths syntriptikhs peliochfias toy kypriakoy laoy.

Prosqese oti ebale beto sto NATO gia thn eisodo twn Skopiwn se mia ypoqesh poy hqele qarros kai genaiothta.

Epishs o k. Karamanlhs anaferqhke stis shmantikes energeiakes symfwnies stis opoies proxwrhse h kybernhsh, symfwnies poy kaqistoyn thn Ellada energeiako diaylo, ton agwgo Mpoyrgkas - Alejandroypolhs, to Saoyq Strim kai ton agwgo Toyrkias - Elladas - Italias. H kybernhsh akoloyqei mia gennaia kai sfrighlh ejwterikh politikh, tonise o k. Karamanlhs.

Apantwntas se erwthsh gia ta arnhtika dhmosieymata toy dieqnoys Typoy poy aforoyn thn Ellada, o k. Karamanlhs dhlwse oti polles fores einai yperbolika kai den aphxoyn thn pragmatikothta.

Efere de san paradeigma ta dhmosieymata poy elegan oti h Ellada den qa einai se qesh na daneistei kai qa anagkastei na katafygei sto DNT. Telika apo to prwto tetramhno h kybernhsh exei kalycei tis daneiakes anagkes ths xwras. Qymhse malista ta arnhtika dhmosieymata prin apo toys Olympiakoys Agwnes toy 2004 kai eipe oti einai shmantiko na mhn ta ajiopoiei h Antipoliteysh san eykairia gia na dysfhmei thn xwra. H Ellada, katelhje, mporei na einai sto kentro ths Eyrwphs.

Thn anagkh epitaxynshs twn metarryqmisewn, ypogrammise o prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Karamanlhs apantwntas se sxetikh erwthsh kai epanelabe oti den einai stis proqeseis toy na epibalei neoys foroys.

"H dieqnhs oikonomikh krish efere sthn epifaneia thn anagkh na proxwrhsoyme me taxytero bhmatismo", eipe o k. Karamanlhs o opoios aperrice thn parathrhsh toy dhmosiografoy oti "h kybernhsh kaqysterhse tis metarrymiseis foboymenh to politiko kostos".

"Pote den eipa oti exoyn ginei liges metarryqmiseis",eipe o k. Karamanlhs kai qymise thn allagh toy plaisioy gia tis symprajeis dhmosioy kai idiwtikoy tomea (SDIT), thn ekpaideytikh metarryqmish, thn metarryqmish sto asfalistiko, to neo xwrotajiko, thn apokratikopoihsh ths OA, thn makroxronia misqwsh toy limanioy toy Peiraia. Prosqese oti xreiazomaste ki alles metarryqmiseis kai shmeiwse oti ginontai "se ena periballon, opoy o logos ths Antipoliteyshs einai exqrikos".

Idiaiterh anafora ekane sthn synexish ths metarryqmishs toy asfalistikoy legontas oti prepei na epanejetasqoyn ta barea kai antygieina.

Eipe akomh oti prepei na proxwrhsei h ejygiansh toy systhmatos Ygeias kai anefere oti prosfata anakoinwqhke o periorismos twn Nomikwn Proswpwn Dhmosioy Dikaioy, synolika 255 NPDD.

Arnhqhke thn parathrhsh gia kaqysterhsh sthn idiwtikopoihsh ths OA, legontas oti h kybernhsh htan etoimh apo to 2005, alla eprepe na lyqoyn akanqwdh nomika qemata me thn EE.

O k. Karamanlhs epanelabe oti den einai stis proqeseis toy na ballei neoys foroys. "Den sxediazw na balw neoys foroys" eipe xarakthristika alla prosqese oti ta dedomena logw ths dieqnoys krishs allazoyn mhna me ton mhna kai den jerei ti qa ginei se merikoys mhnes.

Milhse akomh gia thn prospaqeia ths kybernhshs poy brisketai se ejelijh na periorisqei to ektetameno fainomeno ths forodiafyghs.

O k. Karamanlhs epishmane oti "h Ellada biwnei thn krish hpiotera apo alles xwres: h anergia sthn Ispania einai 18%, ta elleimmata se Agglia kai Gallia einai megalytera apo thn xwra mas", eipe.

"Par' oti diagoyme mia megalh oikonomikh krish, h kybernhsh kanei o,ti mporei gia na sthrijei toys xamhlomisqoys kai toys syntajioyxoys", dhlwse o prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Karamanlhs anaferomenos sthn koinwnikh politikh ths kybernhshs.

Dexqhke oti yparxoyn kaqysterhseis stis plhrwmes apo to to dhmosio, prosqese, omws, oti "to bebaio einai oti den xanontai xrhmata".

Anaferqhke sthn koinwnikh politikh ths kybernhshs, legontas oti ayjhse to EKAS, anebhke o katwteros misqos, ayjhqhke to epidoma anergias apo 300 se 460 eyrw.

"Xwris na eimai ikanopoihmenos ginetai shmantikh prospaqeia alla xreiazontai ki alles metarryqmiseis", eipe o k. Karamanlhs kai prosqese oti enas tetoios tomeas einai o asfalistikos.

O prwqypoyrgos dhlwse oti to biwtiko epipedo sthn Ellada exei beltiwqei, wstoso ta xrhmata poy dapana to dhmosio gia koinwnikh politikh prepei na apokthsoyn megalyterh apotelesmatikothta kai gi ayto prepei na sprwjoyme tis metarryqmiseis.

"Den ta exoyme petyxei ola, yparxoyn syntajioyxoi kai agrotes poy diadhlwnoyn, omws, den edwsa pote entolh na darqoyn syntajioyxoi ejw apo to Majimoy h na jefoyskwsoyn ta lastixa twn trakter", anefere xarakthristika o k. Karamanlhs.

"O nomos plaisio gia to Panepisthmio efarmozetai para tis lyssalees kai antidhmokratikes antidraseis", dhlwse o prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs apantwntas se sxetikh erwthsh sto ntimpeit twn politikwn arxhgwn.

Prosqese oti genikotera h ekpaideytikh metarryqmish den kaqysterei kai anefere xarakthristika oti kai h ajiologhsh twn panepisthmiakwn alla kai o tetraeths programamatismos efarmozontai.

Eipe akomh oti prowqoyntai oi allages kai sthn deyterobaqmia ekpaideysh wste na allajei to ejetastiko systhma.

Gia to oti den ayjhse tis dapanes gia thn Paideia o k. Karamanlhs apanthse oti parelabe dhmosio elleima sto 7% poy apotelei brogxo gia thn oikonomia, wstoso xreiazontai perissotera xrhmata na pane stis metarryqmiseis. Kathgorhse ton k. Papandreoy oti "yponomeyse thn metarryqmish gia ta mh kratika panepisthmia".

Telos anaferqhke sto biblio Istorias ths St' Dhmotikoy legontas oti h kybernhsh to antikatesthse, afoy prwta eixe thn sxetikh eishghsh ths Akadhmias Aqhnwn.

"Eimaste apofasismenoi na ependysoyme stis metarryqmiseis", epanelabe kathgorhmatika o k. Karamanlhs.

To periballon einai megalh proteraitotha poy prepei na yphreteitai oxi me logia, alla sthn prajh, tonise o prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Karamanlhs apantwntas se sxetikh erwthsh sto ntimpeit twn politikwn arxhgwn.

Yposthrije oti me to neo Xwrotajiko Sxedio kai me ta eidika xwrotajika, h kybernhsh exei prosferei terastia yphresia sto periballon kai prosqese oti prowqhse to Kthmatologio poy eixe kaqysterhsei kai gia to opoio h prohgoymenh kybernhsh eixe dexqei prostimo apo thn EE.

Anefere akomh oti h kybernhsh prowqei tis ananewsimes phges energeias, enw meiwse kata 90% ton ariqmo twn 4000 paranomwn xwmaterwn poy parelabe. Sxetika de me tis pyrkagies toy 2007, o Kwstas Karamanlhs tonise oti h antidrash ths kybernhshs sthn apokatastash twn zhmiwn htan akariaia kai gennaiodwrh kai oti, hdh, exoyn ektamieyqei ta misa apo ta dyo dis. eyrw ths EE.

To periballon einai megalh proteraiothta poy prepei na yphreteitai oxi me logia, alla sthn prajh, tonise o prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Karamanlhs apantwntas se sxetikh erwthsh sto ntimpeit twn politikwn arxhgwn.

Yposthrije oti me to neo Xwrotajiko Sxedio kai me ta eidika xwrotajika, h kybernhsh exei prosferei terastia yphresia sto periballon kai prosqese oti prowqhse to Kthmatologio poy eixe kaqysterhsei kai gia to opoio h prohgoymenh kybernhsh eixe dexqei prostimo apo thn EE.

Anefere akomh oti h kybernhsh prowqei tis ananewsimes phges energeias, enw meiwse kata 90% ton ariqmo twn 4000 paranomwn xwmaterwn poy parelabe. Sxetika de me tis pyrkagies toy 2007, o Kwstas Karamanlhs tonise oti h antidrash ths kybernhshs sthn apokatastash twn zhmiwn htan akariaia kai gennaiodwrh kai oti, hdh, exoyn ektamieyqei ta misa apo ta dyo dis. eyrw ths EE.

"Exw to qarros kai th genaiothta, otan paei kati straba na bgainw kai na lew oti analambanw thn eyqynh", tonise o prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Karamanlhs anaferomenos sthn ypoqesh toy Batopedioy kata thn diarkeia toy ntimpeit twn politikwn arxhgwn.

Prosqese oti "den pisteyw oti politiko proswpo apo to PASOK sto parelqon, h apo thn kybernhsh zhmiwse epi skopw to dhmosio".

"Miloyme gia poly sobarh ypoqesh, poy ejelixqhke se diarkeia deka xronwn. Den yphrje h apaitoymenh epimeleia apo thn pleyra twn kratikwn leitoyrgwn. Eginan laqh, alla h kybernhsh exei kanei oles tis apaitoymenes energeies gia na mhn yparjei zhmia toy dhmosioy, opws einai h arsh ths kyriothtas twn kthmatwn kai h akyrwsh twn antallagwn".

Genikeyontas sto qema twn skandalwn, o k. K. Karamanlhs eipe oti "zhthmata panta anakyptoyn, alla ta anakalyptei h Dikaiosynh, ta ereyna kai ta fernei sto fws. Xreiazetai megalyterh prospaqeia, epimeleia kai diafaneia alla tipote den sygkalyptetai".

O k. Karamanlhs eipe akomh oti sthn ejelijh ths ypoqeshs yphrjan ysteroboyles epidiwjeis, poy diaplexqhkan me paqogeneies ths kratikhs mhxanhs kai katelhje legontas oti einai shmantiko na diasfalisqei oti den qa yparjoyn paromoia fainomena.

[02] G. Papandreoy: "H allazoyme h boyliazoyme"

"Mporoyme na allajoyme poreia kai na kanoyme thn Ellada me toys pente stoxoys poy exei qesei to PASOK ena eynomoymeno kratos me "prasinh anaptyjh", paideia gia oloys, koinwnikh allhleggyh kai isxyrh fwnh sto ejwteriko" eipe o proedros toy PASOK, prosqetontas oti h Ellada mporei na syndiamorfwnei tis apofaseis kai na petyxainei.

"Mporoyme na empisteyqoyme tis dynameis mas kai se ayto desmeyomai na dwsw thn maxh mazi me kaqe 'Ellhna kai kaqe Ellhnida. H chfos mas einai shmantikh gia mia nea arxh, kamia chfos den prepei na paei xamenh, h nikh toy PASOK shmatodotei th nikh ths elpidas kai ths neas prooptikhs" katelhje o proedros toy PASOK.

"H xwra mas exei kaqe logo na sthrijei tis dieqneis synqhkes, ta anqrwpina dikaiwmata kai thn edafikh akeraiothta ths xwra, kati poy shmainei isxyrh ejwterikh politikh poy diapragmateyetai", apanthse o proedros toy PASOK, Giwrgos Papandreoy sthn prwth erwthsh ths thleoptikhs anametrhshs twn Politikwn Arxhgwn poy aforoyse thn ejwterikh politikh, enw sto idiaitero erwthma-anafora se synenteyjh toy sto periodiko "Klik" ton Aygoysto toy 1999 peri "mh yparjhs proswpikoy toy problhmatos" apo ton "aytoprosdiorismo" twn moysoylmanwn ths Qrakhs, o proedros toy PASOK eipe oti "den eipe kati tetoio" kai oti ennooyse "atomiko kai oxi omadiko aytoprosdiorismo".

O proedros toy PASOK eipe oti h Ellada prepei na prostateyei ta anqrwpina dikaiwmata olwn kai oxi na afhnei alloys na to kanoyn, epekrine thn kybernhsh gia "kataqesh twn oplwn enanti ths Toyrkias to 2004, 2005 kai 2009 me apotelesma h Toyrkia na mas qewrei dedomenoys" kai prosqese oti etsi "den mporoyme na diamorfwsoyme synqhkes staqerothtas kai asfaleias".

Eipe akoma oti efarmozontas energhtikh politikh epi kybernhsewn PASOK, "petyxame thn eisodo ths Kyproy sthn EE, ta KPS, ta MOP kai th Nhsiwtikh Politikh".

O k. Papandreoy oloklhrwse thn apanthsh toy tonizontas oti "yparxei enallaktikh prooptikh ejwterikhs politikhs me symmetoxh kai oxi apoysia ths xwras", prosqetontas oti "xreiazetai allagh ejwterikhs politikhs me energhtikh politikh".

"O planhths prepei na allajei anaptyjiako protypo kai qelw h Ellada na einai prwtoporia sthn "prasinh anaptyjh", gia thn opoia exoyme synolikh politikh protash, poy perilambanei metajy allwn, anakataskeyes kthriwn, anakyklwsh kai ananewsimes phges energeias pantoy", apanthse o proedros toy PASOK, sthn erwthsh gia thn oikonomia.

O Proedros toy PASOK ekane, epishs, logo gia "prasinh epixeirhmatikothta kai periballontika proionta poiothtas", epishmainontas oti aytes oi ependyseis apaitoyn ena "oxi polydaidalo kybernhtiko sxhma to opoio qa sthrizei thn epixeirhmatikothta", kaqws kai ypoyrgeio Periballontos.

Se o,ti afora thn epishmansh oti "h kaqarh energeia einai akribh energeia kai pws qa peisei toys polites na plhrwsoyn perissotera", o proedros toy PASOK eipe oti "h synthrhsh twn kthriwn qa meiwsei to kostos poy plhrwnoyn oi polites gia hlektrismo, qermansh kai klimatismo", epishmane oti qa xreiastoyn ependyseis kai ypodomes poy qa apodwsoyn se orizonta 4etias ews 6etias kai tonise oti "ekei xreiazetai ena ajiopisto kratos poy qa sthrijei tis "prasines" ependyseis kai qa mporei na diapragmateyqei. Kai oxi ena kratos opws to shmerino poy exei xrewqei me 80 dis eyrw poy den jeroyme poy phgan".

"Den exw adynamia sto soyhdiko montelo koinwnikoy kratoys, exw desmeyqei gia koinwniko kratos, to opoio den einai aplws hqiko qema, alla kai qema anaptyjhs. Epishs milw gia thn yparjh kanonwn stis ergasiakes sxeseis", apanthse o proedros toy PASOK Giwrgos A. Papandreoy, sto trito qema ths thleoptikhs anametrhshs, poy aforoyse to koinwniko kratos kai ta ergasiaka zhthmata.

Se o,ti afora thn xrhmatodothsh toy koinwnikoy kratoys, o k. Papandreoy eqese to erwthma: "poy pane shmera ta lefta, kaqws exei anoijei h calida ths anisothtas -kai ayto einai barbarothta- me dwra 5 dis eyrw stoys megalometoxoys twn epixeirhsewn, stis trapezes, me tis proslhceis agrofylakwn, ta 20 dis. eyrw aneispraktwn forwn, thn pelateiakh logikh kai thn ejaplwsh ths diafqoras pantoy".

"Qa sygkroystw me aytes tis logikes, giati den xrwstaw poyqena", epishmane o proedros toy PASOK.

Apantwntas sthn parathrhsh peri "bebarhmenoy parelqontos" gia ta zhthmata ayta twn kybernhsewn toy PASOK, o k. Papandreoy eipe oti "to PASOK jekinhse to koinwniko kratos", enw ekane logo gia "dikaih anadianomh toy ploytoy", qema gia to opoio desmeyetai o idios kai to "shmerino PASOK me ta nea stelexh toy, poy exoyn protaseis".

"Qa sygkroystoyme me aytes tis antilhceis kai qa to kanoyme giati yparxei boylhsh dikh moy, giati exoyme boylhsh", katelhje o proedros toy PASOK.

"Phga se 8 diaforetika sxoleia, dhmosia kai idiwtika, se 4 diaforetikes xwres kai gnwrizw ta terastia barh ths ellhnikhs oikogeneias, alla kai ta barh toy neoy anqrwpoy apo thn aposthqish kai oxi thn anaptyjh ths kritikhs gnwshs. To ekpaideytiko systhma prepei na allajei ardhn, den shkwnei meremetia" apanthse o proedros toy PASOK sthn erwthsh "an exei biwsei ta problhmata toy dhmosioy sxoleioy, kaqws o idios synodeyse thn korh toy se jeno panepisthmio" poy toy eteqh sthn thleoptikh anametrhsh ston kyklo poy aforoyse thn Paideia.

"Exw biwsei thn katastash, jerw ta problhmata" eipe o k. Papandreoy kanontas taytoxrona logo gia xrhmatodothsh ths Paideias me 5% toy AEP kai "syndesh ths ekpaideyshs me thn "prasinh anaptyjh" kai ta nea epaggelmata".

O proedros toy PASOK eipe oti ejorgizetai apo ayta poy blepei episkeptomenos ta sxoleia kai prosqese oti "h Ellada mporei poly kalytera giati diaqetei to emcyxo dynamiko" kai epanelabe palaioterh protash toy gia to "hlektroniko biblio", kai thn syndesh toy analytikoy programmatos me tis pragmatikes koinwnikes anagkes, "apo thn cyxologia twn newn ws thn epaggelmatikh toys katartish".

"Apantwntas" ston prwqypoyrgo, o proedros toy PASOK eipe oti to PASOK den yponomeyse thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos gia to arqro 16, alla "h kybernhsh yponomeyse thn anaqewrhsh me to arqro 24 gia ta dash kai thn noqeia ths anaqewrhshs", enw epekrine thn kybernhsh kai gia "yponomeysh ths Boylhs me thn apofash gia to kleisimo ths".

"Par' oti kaname polla, den eixame thn oikologikh syneidhsh poy eprepe", apanthse o proedros toy PASOK sthn erwthsh gia thn asymbatothta twn logwn toy kai twn pepragmenwn ths kybernhshs PASOK sta zhthmata periballontos.

O k. Papandreoy eipe oti apo tis epafes toy pagkosmiws exei diapistwsei oti h oikologikh syneidhsh anaptyssetai kai eqese to zhthma "prasinh anaptyjh h barbarothta, an den pame se allo montelo anaptyjhs".

O Proedros toy PASOK eipe pws htan metajy twn prwtwn poy eqese tetoio zhthma sthn Ellada kai tote toy elegan oti ayta einai "prasina aloga", kai prosqese oti "twra ayta exoyn ginei syneidhsh kai xairomai gi' ayto".

"To PASOK exei sygkekrimeno programma gia thn efarmogh ths "prasinhs anaptyjhs" kai akoma kai sto onoma mas, mias kai exoyme ton hlio kai to prasino, qa mporoyse na diapistwsei kaneis oti eimaste oikologiko kinhma", eipe.

Erwthqeis pws epwfeloyntai dhmoskopika oi "Oikologoi-Prasinoi"", o proedros toy PASOK ejefrase kai pali thn ikanopoihsh toy poy anaptyssetai oikologikh syneidhsh, epishmainontas, omws oti to qema einai "poios mporei na kybernhsei ton topo kai na ta kanei ayta prajh".

"H prasinh anaptyjh einai moxlos gia megales allages apo to Dhmosio ws thn Oikonomia kai thn anadianomh toy ploytoy, giati ta zhthmata toy periballontos plhttoyn kyriws ta ftwxotera strwmata", eipe o proedros toy PASOK, prosqetontas oti "gia ta zhthmata periballontos h epilogh (chfoy) einai to PASOK".

"Na teleiwnoyme me thn sobarofaneia kai thn ypokrisia ths kybernhshs h opoia ekleise thn Boylh gia paragrafh (twn skandalwn). Eixa proteinei ston prwqypoyrgo na feroyme oles tis ypoqeseis sto fws gia na jekaqarisei o topos. Den to tolmhse, exase istorikh eykairia kai twra einai se omhria kai apotelei meros toy problhmatos" apanthse o proedros toy PASOK, Giwrgos A. Papandreoy, sthn erwthsh gia to an h syzhthsh gia ta skandala wfelei ton ellhniko lao poy eteqh sthn qematikh enothta Dhmosia Dioikhsh ths thleoptikhs anametrhshs twn politikwn arxhgwn.

O k. Papandreoy eipe oti to dilhmma einai metajy anomias, ayqairesias kai atimwrhsias h allhs logikhs, metajy pelateiakhs logikhs h ajiokratias kai metajy sygkalychs h diafaneias.

"Stis 8 Ioynioy o ellhnikos laos qa plhrwsei ayth thn katastash kai ta sklhra metra qa eprepe na einai apenanti sthn diafqora kai oxi apenanti ston ellhniko lao" eipe o proedros toy PASOK.

Apantwntas sthn erwthsh oti dhmoskopika h ND kai to PASOK antimetwpizontai to idio ws pros ta skandala, o proedros toy PASOK eipe oti "o laos einai ejorgismenos gi' ayto eipa diafaneia pantoy, as "matwsoyme" alla na allajoyme selida".

"Tolmw kai qa to kanw giati den me "krataei" kanenas, exoyme proteinei allages sto politiko systhma, stis sxeseis me ta MME, alla kai thn hlektronikh diakybernhsh wste na yparxei diafaneia stis "ypografes" twn ypoyrgwn" eipe o k. Papandreoy, prosqetontas oti "qa thrhsoyme tis desmeyseis mas kai ta xrhmata toy ellhnikoy laoy qa ependyontai sthn ygeia, thn paideia, thn anaptyjh kai thn pronoia".

[03] Al. Paparhga: "Den exoyn diafores"

Xreiazetai aifnidiastikh antepiqesh, na mas chfisoyn kai osoi den symfwnoyn mazi mas , giati to KKE mporei na diaxeiristei me eyqynh thn chfo toys, katelhje h k. Paparhga.

H GG ths KE toy KKE Aleka Paparhga apantwntas se erwthsh gia th symmetoxh ths xwras sthn EE kai ta kondylia poy exoyn eisreysei sthn Ellada tonise oti se pososto poy anerxetai peripoy sto 80% (twn kondyliwn) phgainoyn se megaloys epixeirhmatikoys omiloys , par' oti , opws eipe, ginontai kai erga poy mporei na einai epwfelh gia ton lao.

Wstoso, prosqese, sthn kalpth den krinetai h apodesmeysh ths Elladas apo thn EE . An h Ellada den htan sthn EE kai eixame laikh diakybernhsh, eipe h Grammateas toy KKE, qa kerdize polla o laos, giati o ploytos toy qa htan dhmosia perioysia, den qa htan ypoxrewmenh h agrotia na dexetai epidothseis, poy, oytws h allws, meiwnontai. To kostos symmetoxhs gia to lao einai terastio kai gia thn ploytokratia einai kerdos h symmetoxh sthn EE, tonise h ka Paparhga

Sthn dieykrinistikh erwthsh oti polles xwres epidiwkoyn thn entajh toys sthn EE , h ka Paparhga apanthse oti an yioqethsoyme o,ti leei h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh qa eimastan se anantistoixia me toys ergazomenoys.

Shmeiwse, epishs, oti sthn Ellada den exei ginei kanena dhmochfisma, oyte gia th Synqhkh toy Maastrixt, oyte gia allh synqhkh kai kathggeile oti se orismenes xwres , kybernhseis sthnoyn akomh kai agalmata twn nazistikwn Es Es.

Se erwthsh sxetika me thn arnhsh toy KKE na dexqei elegxo sta oikonomika toy, h ka Paparhga epanelabe th qesh ths oti einai allo pragma to politiko komma, allo pragma mia epixeirhsh.

Poio komma plhrwnei sthn eforia, rwthse h GG ths KE toy KKE kai prosqese: kanena. Oi epixeirhseis plhrwnoyn. An eimaste komma ejoysias kai eixame ypoyrgeia kai kaname idiwtikopoihseis, h alles prajeis, tote to komma na elegxetai, eipe h ka Paparhga kai epishmane oti to KKE den exei ypoyrgeio,den exei parei meros se idiwtikopoihseis.

Ayto poy leme, prosqese h k. Paparhga, einai oti ta kommata einai politikes organwseis, ta esoda kai ejoda kommatwn na elegxontai apo dika toys qesmika organa kai epanelabe th qesh toy kommatos oti to KKE den prokeitai na dwsei stoixeia gia ta oikonomika toy akomh kai an metabei sta grafeia toy kommatos o eisaggeleas.

Gia paradeigma, eipe h ka Paparhga, an anakoinwqei to onoma enos ergazomenoy oti exei eisferei sto komma piqanotata na exei problhma sth doyleia toy me ton ergodoth toy. Gia ton logo ayto emeis qa prostateysoyme to komma mas, eipe h k. Paparhga.

Sthn erwthsh giati to KKE enw zhtaei o basikos misqos na anelqei sta 1400 eyrw, den to efarmozei sto komma h sthn ekdotikh epixeirhsh poy diaqetei, h ka Paparhga eipe oti aytos poy doyleyei gia to komma, strateyetai eqelontika kai qa parei enan meso misqo, giati prin ap'ola h sxesh den einai kaqara epaggelmatikh. Alloimono , prosqese, an syndesoyme thn prosfora sto komma me thn epaggelmatikh apokatastash.

Sthn erwthsh pws qa antimetwpize to KKE sthn prajh ta oikonomika problhmata kaqws parapempei th lysh toys ston sosialismo, h k. Paparhga eipe oti otan kindyneyoyn syntajeis den mporoyme na parapemcoyme to problhma sto sosialismo. "Exoyme kataqesei protaseis sth Boylh", eipe h Grammateas toy KKE kai prosqese oti den eyqynontai oi ergazomenoi poy apo thn dekaetia toy '50 kleboyn ta asfalistika tameia kai oi asfalismenoi einai kyrioletika ston aera.

Sthn erwthsh pws qa antidroyse sthn prajh to KKE, h k. Paparhga ekane logo gia kerdoforia dekadwn disekatommyriwn apo tis epixeirhseis kai sthn anagkh megalyterhs forologhshs twn kerdwn toys, kati poy opws eipe einai realistiko.

Isotimh, sygxronh, ychloy epipedoy kai dhmosia dwrean paideia zhthse h ka Paparhga apantwntas sthn erwthsh gia ta problhmata sthn paideia, me aformh kai tis panelladikes ejetaseis. H GG ths KE toy KKE eipe oti den mporei na lyqei to ejetastiko, an den lyqoyn polla alla problhmata, metajy twn opoiwn kai to problhma ths epaggelmatikhs apokatastashs.

Sthn erwthsh an to komma ths dexetai na ginei ypoxrewtikh h parakoloyqhsh twn maqhmatwn, h ka Paparhga eipe oti den einai ayto to problhma, alla h genikoterh katastash poy epikratei sta AEI , ta opoia xarakthrise ws "soyper market", ypobaqmismena kai to ptyxio den exei ajia.

Epishs, eipe h ka Paparhga, prepei na shmeiwqei oti polloi foithtes kai spoydastes ergazontai taytoxrona prokeimenoy na antapokriqoyn stis anagkes toys, qema poy prepei na lhfqei ypoch, shmeiwnontas thn anagkh genikoterhs antimetwpishs twn problhmatwn ths paideias.

Sthn erwthsh gia thn politikh toy KKE sta problhmata toy periballontos, h k. Paparhga eipe oti to komma ths bohqaei na anaptyxqei h periballontikh syneidhsh sth xwra mas kai anaferqhke sth drash toy KKE, opws gia paradeigma sta Oinofyta, opoy kinhtopoihse toys ergazomenoys.

"To KKE qa kanei megalyterh prospaqeia" eipe h k. Paparhga, enw kathgorhse thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh legontas oti einai myqos oti exei periballontikes eyaisqhsies, shmeiwnontas kai thn kykloforia metallagmenwn proiontwn se eyrwpaikes xwres.

H k. Paparhga eipe oti an mia biomhxania rypainei, tote mporei kai na kleisei, alla oi ergazomenoi prepei na apozhmiwqoyn kai na plhrwsei o ergodoths kai na epiblhqoyn megala prostima kai oxi ayta ta mikra prostima poy epiballontai shmera me synepeia na synexizei na rypainei.

Sthn erwthsh sxetika me thn antiparaqesh toy k. Q. Pagkaloy me to KKE, h k. Paparhga apanthse oti to KKE den aisqanetai aprostateyto, opws aprostateytos htan o Otsalan. Exw xartia apo tis arxes ths dekaetias toy 90, eipe h k. Paparhga, poy lene oti to KKE ekane emporio oplwn kai narkwtikwn kai o dhmosiografos poy ta eixe gracei ta phre pisw sto dikasthrio kai zhthse syggnwmh. H hqikh ypostash toy KKE den tsalakwnetai me tipota, eipe h k. Paparhga kai prosqese oti mporei sthn makroxronh poreia toy kommatos na yphrxan stigmes poy den staqhkame to ycos twn peristasewn. Wstoso, shmeiwse, to KKE den symbibasthke, mporei na hmastan pisw apo tis anagkes, alla h hqikh toy kommatos exei dokimastei kai exei anagnwristei akomh kai apo toys basanistes, eipe xarakthristika.

Sthn erwthsh giati den parapempei ton k. Pagkalo sthn dikaiosynh, h k. Paparhga dierwthqhke "ti akribws zhtaei to PASOK; Na paijoyme jylo h na pame sta dikasthria". Emeis, eipe, den qeloyme na poinikopoihsoyme thn politikh zwh. Mh mas ejanagkazete. Emeis qa yperaspistoyme ton eayto mas. Panw apo ola oi kathgoroi einai aytoi poy ofeiloyn na feroyn stoixeia, eipe h Grammateas toy KKE kai katelhje legontas oti an sykofanthsei to KKE ton k. Karamanlh h ton k. Papandreoy, to komma einai ayto poy ofeilei na ferei stoixeia kai oxi o kathgoroymenos.

[04] A.Alabanos:''Gonimh antallagh apocewn ston SYN''

Apeyqynomenos pros toys dhmosiografoys epishmane oti diegnwse kapoia koina stoixeia stis erwthseis toys kai eidikotera to kata poso o SYRIZA einai kommati enos jeperasmenoy politikoy systhmatos, to kata poso brisketai se ptwsh, opws kai to ypoloipo politiko systhma.

"Ayto poy qa mporoyse kaneis na pei, einai giati ta idiwtika kanalia briskontai edw, otan yparxei ena gkrizo periballon, otan den yparxei plhrhs adeiodothsh, otan den yparxei tajh se ayto to zhthma", dierwthqhke o Alekos Alabanos.

Ekane idiaiterh anafora ston prosfata ekliponta boyleyth toy SYRIZA Mixalh Papagiannakh, o opoios epi 15 xronia yphrje melos toy Eyrwpaikoy Koinoboylioy kai o opoios prwtagwnisthse se periballontika qemata.

"Exw akoysei polles fores stis thleoraseis th frash kai oi triakosioi. Oxi, den eimaste idioi. Emeis exoyme istoria, klhronomia, agwnes kai apotelesmata stoys agwnes mas kai qa kriqoyme apo ayta", symplhrwse.-

Sthn enothta Eyrwph kai ejwterikh politikh kai sto erwthma oti stelexh ths paratajhs toy epikrinoyn oti teleytaia to komma xanei ton eyrwpaiko toy prosanatolismo, o proedros toy SYRIZA k. Alabanos apanthse "exoyme pepragmena, exoyme energh politikh sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai thn exoyn biwsei oi ergazomenoi". Apeyqynomenos de pros ton prwqypoyrgo eipe " giati kyrie Karamanlh; Thn qetikh apofash toy Eyrwpaikoy Dikasthrioy poy epitrepei sta nea paidia anti na exoyn eyligistes sxeseis ergasias na mporoyn na exoyn nomimothta den thn proxwrate".

Epishs se allh erwthsh sxetika me to shmeio pente toy Sxedioy Politikhs Apofashs toy SYRIZA, symfwna me to opoio oi eyrwpaikoi qesmoi xrhsimopoioyntai gia thn kerdoforia toy kefalaioy kai ton periorismo ths Dhmokratias, o k. Alabanos apanthse oti shmera, sthn foberh krish opoy sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh exei epikrathsei h plhrhs asydosia toy megaloy kefalaioy, h oikonomia toy kazino kai poy oi trapezes kanoyn oti qeloyn, ti sxesh exei ayto me mia eyrwpaikh politikh, prosqetontas oti ypeyqynh gia thn krish einai h idia h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

Sthn enothta oikonomia kai se erwthsh gia th qesh poy eixe parei o SYRIZA thn teleytaia Kyriakh toy xronoy na mhn anoijoyn ta katasthmata, para tis zhmies poy eixan ypostei to Dekembrio, o k. Alekos Alabanos tonise oti "ta problhmata poy antimetwpizoyn ta katasthmata einai apo ta megala katasthmata, poy parabiazoyn to nomo kai ayto einai ena problhma poy to antimetwpizoyn kaqhmerina. Prosqese oti ena allo problhma poy antimetwpizoyn oi mikromesaioi einai ayto ths xrhmatodothshs, me apotelesma o emporikos kai epaggelmatikos kosmos na menei aprostateytos.

Se dieykrinistikh erwthsh gia to pws enw o SYRIZA den einai kata ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, zhtaei na allajei to Symfwno Staqerothtas kai tassetai yper ths eqnikopoihshs ths Eqnikhs Trapezas, o k. Alabanos apanthse oti "to Symfwno Staqerothtas den einai "to pisteyw" twn xristianwn, einai mia epilogh syntagmatikh poy afhse aprostateyth thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh sta kerdoskopika kefalaia kai periorise th dynatothta ths na symballei sthn anaptyjh twn xwrwn. Prosqese de oti ayth h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh den mporei na staqei me ayto ton tropo, xreiazetai seira allagwn kai h ellhnikh koinwnia xreiazetai mia Eqnikh Trapeza.

Sthn enothta koinwnikh politikh kai ergasiaka zhthmata kai sthn erwthsh gia poio logo o SYRIZA den peiqei toys polites, para to gegonos oti emfanizetai na exei swstes qeseis gia thn oikonomikh kai koinwnikh krish, o k. Alabanos apeyqynomenos pros ton prwqypoyrgo Kwsta Karamanlh ton rwthse giati den kanei tipota gia ta 3,8 disekatommyria eisforodiafygh poy exei h Ellada ethsiws, giati den kanei kati gia ta 550 ekatommyria eyrw poy plhrwnei kaqe Ellhnas gia dapanes gia toys ejoplismoys kai giati den pairnei metra gia tis paranomies twn off-shore etairiwn.

Prosqese, akoma, oti h oikonomikh katastash sthn Ellada einai ekrhktikh, yparxoyn anergoi me 15 eyrw epidoma thn hmera, syntajioyxoi toy OGA me 10 eyrw thn hmera kai mia nea genia anergwn, enoikiazomenwn ergazomenwn, merikws apasxoloymenwn, anasfalistwn, me deltio paroxhs yphresiwn, poy o SYRIZA den mporei na apodexqei kai gia ayto antidra proteinontas kai metra.

Se allh erwthsh symfwna me thn opoia o SYRIZA exei apwlesei thn eyrwpaikh toy taytothta kai exei sto eswteriko toy mia synistwsa poy paleyei gia mia allh Eyrwph, o k. Alabanos apanthse oti o SYRIZA einai yperhfanos gia thn ka Swthrioy poy einai ypochfia sth deyterh qesh sto eyrwchfodeltio, poy einai ergazomenh kai syndikalistria kai dieykrinise oti h paratajh einai mia symmaxia aristerwn kommatwn, poy basizetai sto oneiro gia thn enothta ths aristeras, par' oles tis diafores. Epishmane de oti yparxei koino programma kai me bash ayto to koino programma qa ginoyn kai oi parembaseis mesa sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

Aphyqyne de to erwthma gia poio logo h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh sthrizei tis trapezes kai den sthrizei to daneismo xwrwn-melwn, opws h Ellada.

Sthn enothta gia thn paideia kai se erwthsh gia th stash poy krathse o SYRIZA sta gegonota toy perasmenoy Dekembrh, o k. Alabanos, afoy epikalesqhke tis dhlwseis toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias Karoloy Papoylia kai toy arxiepiskopoy Aqhnwn thn periodo ekeinh dhlwse:

"Eimaste perhfanoi poy staqhkame dipla stoys neoys, ayto apotelei klhronomia kai katakthsh. Qa eprepe kai ta MME kai oi politikes dynameis na afoygkrastoyn th neolaia kai ta problhmata poy antimetwpizei otan paleyei dekaeties gia ena ptyxio kai sth synexeia toys lene den sas xreiazomaste, otan wqeitai sthn aytokatastrofh me oysies kai me aytoktonies twn opoiwn yparxei katakoryfh ayjhsh".

Se dieykrinistikh erwthsh sxetika me tis diaforetikes apoceis poy yparxoyn sthn paratajh toy gia thn paideia kai to an yparxei kindynos diaspashs toy kommatos, o k. Alabanos apanthse:

"Den yparxei. Eimaste ena komma poy syzhtaei kai antipatiqetai. Exoyme mia gonimh paroysia apocewn".

Eidikotera, anaferqhke sto gegonos oti o SYRIZA htan to mono komma poy otan katateqhke to nomosxedio gia to nomo - plaisio ths kas Giannakoy, kateqese antiprotash arqro pros arqro.

Kai tonise oti o SYRIZA sthrije to kinhma gia to arqro 16, poy eixe san apotelesma na mhn perasei telika h tropopoihsh gia ta dhmosia panepisthmia, mia tropopoihsh poy eixe th sthrijh kai toy PASOK.

Sthn enothta periballon kai se erwthsh gia poio logo enw o SYRIZA exei san shmaia toy thn oikologia stis dhmoskophseis to pososto toy peftei, se antiqesh me to pososto twn OIKOLOGWN - PRASINWN poy ayjanetai, o k. Alabanos kathgorhse ton prwqypoyrgo gia to gegonos oti h Ellada exei tis xamhloteres xrhmatodothseis sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh gia thn paideia kai to periballon.

"Mas doyleyete cilo gazi. Xrhsimopoieite to periballon ws meson synallaghs apo th mia pleyra me ta megala symferonta kai apo thn allh akomh kai me toys chfoforoys sas. Jafnika kanete proeklogiko diakanonismo amfilegomenwn ektasewn toy dhmosioy, kaqws kai hmiypaiqriwn xwrwn. Ntroph sas ".

Oson afora toys OIKOLOGOYS - PRASINOYS dhlwse oti den qewrei swsto na kanei kritikh se ena politiko xwro,otan aytos den einai paron.

Kai prosqese oti "metriesai apo to kata poso paleyeis enantia sthn kybernhsh kai ta megala symferonta, krinetai kaneis otan gia oikologika zhthmata erxetai se sygkroysh me thn koinh gnwmh, giati ayto exei politiko kostos".

Xarakthristika de anefere ta paradeigmata ths Monhs Toploy sthn Krhth kai toy Elaiwna sto Botaniko kai twn agwnwn poy exei dwsei gia ta qemata ayta o SYRIZA.

e allh erwthsh gia to oti to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn exei dwsei 50 adeies daktylioy gia to kentro ths Aqhnas ston SYRIZA, o k. Alabanos apanthse oti gi' ayto poy qa kriqoyme, qa einai ta pepragmena mas gia to periballon. Gia to gegonos oti kapoies aktes ths Aqhnas exoyn anoijei gia toys polites kai ayto ofeiletai sto dhmarxo Ellhnikoy kai ta kinhmata poy anaptyxqhkan. Gia to gegonos oti h Monh Toploy, to dasos sto Bai kai h Boreioanatolikh Krhth den dinetai se tzogadorikh egglezikh etairia, einai giati parenebh o SYRIZA sto Symboylio Epikrateias kai ston Areio Pago kaqws kai gia ton agwna mas gia na timwrhqoyn oi ypeyqynoi gia to skandalo toy Batopedioy kai gia ton Aswpo.

Pantws, eyxaristhse ton dhmosiografo gia to erwthma poy toy eqese gia tis adeies daktylioy kai prosqese oti qa to ejetasoyn sto SYRIZA.

Sthn enothta dhmosia dioikhsh kai diakybernhsh kai se erwthsh gia to pws o SYRIZA antimetwpizei to qema ths anergias, o Alekos Alabanos apanthse oti to kratos ofeilei na symballei me paragwgikes ependyseis.

Kai ypogrammise:

"Pws einai dynaton epikerdeis epixeirhseis me terasties dynatothtes anaptyjhs opws o OTE na dinontai ston idiwtiko tomea;".

Prosqese oti o SYRIZA exei proteinei ekato xiliades nees qeseis ergazomenwn, kati poy prepei na ginei, anti na plhrwnoyme tis trapezes kai ta tzip me ta misa telh tajinomhshs.

Se dieykrinistikh erwthsh gia to pws qa breqoyn xrhmata, o epikefalhs toy SYRIZA anaferqhke sta 3,8 disekatommyria eisforodiafygh to xrono poy exei h xwra kai stis terasties eyqynes ths ND kai toy PASOK poy exoyn symfwnhsei gia to arqro 86 toy Syntagmatos, "ena arqro poy perifronei ton polith kai dinei th dynatothta se enan ypoyrgo na exei allh antimetwpish apo enan aplo polith mprosta sth dikaiosynh".

Prosqese, malista,oti "enw deixnoyn na tsakwnontai, se ayto to zhthma yparxei synetairismos" kai epishmane oti mono o SYRIZA exei kataqesei mia realistikh protash na phgainoyn oi fakeloi kateyqeian apo th Boylh sth dikaiosynh.

[05] G.Karatzaferhs:''Eimaste h allh dynamh''

"Pio poly ajizei ayto, apo to na spatalhsoyme xrhmata gia diafhmistika" prosqese. O k. Karatzaferhs zhthse apo toys politikoys arxhgoys na yioqethsoyn thn protash toy gia perikoph toy misqoy twn politikwn (prwqypoyrgoy, ypoyrgwn) kata 50% wste na apodeijoyn me ton tropo ayto pws noiazontai pragmatika gia ton ellhniko lao kai syneisferoyn sthn amblynsh ths krishs.

O k. Karatzaferhs tonise oti to komma toy den qetei dilhmmata toy typoy "sosialismos h barbarothta" h palaiotera "Karamanlhs h tanks", giati ayta - anefere - einai "ceytodilhmmata". Epanelabe oti o LAOS presbeyei ton dialogo gia thn lysh twn problhmatwn toy topoy.

Eimaste "apofasistikoi, meqodikoi kai dynamikoi" prosqese. "Allazoyme to politiko skhniko, den exoyme agkylwseis, den mpainoyme se rages, tajideyoyme sto oneiro toy polith. Skeptomaste me agaph ston Ellhna", katelhje.

Yper ths diejagwghs dhmochfismatos wste na apofanqei o ellhnikos laos an epiqymei thn entajh ths Toyrkias sthn EE taxqhke o Giwrgos Karatzaferhs, apantwntas se erwthsh gia thn Ejwterikh Politikh, yioqetwntas thn logikh Sarkozi sto qema kai dhlwntas thn antiqesh toy kommatos toy sthn eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias.

Sto dieykrinistiko erwthma gia to an yparxei antifash me thn qesh toy LAOS, to gegonos oti epikefalhs toy eyrwchfodeltioy toy kommatos eteqh mia gynaika h opoia presbeyei thn ellhnotoyrkikh proseggish, o k. Karatzaferhs eipe pws "sthn eyrwph maqame sth synqesh" kai prosqese pws an apekleie kaneis apo ta chfodeltia ypochfioys poy spoydasan sthn Amerikh, den qa emenan polloi apo ola ta kommata. "Eimaste yperhfanoi gia thn epilogh ths Nikhs Tzabella kai qa ajiopoihsoyme tis gnwrimies ths dieqnws".

Sto erwthma giati edwse thn synainesh toy ston K. Karamanlh sto qema ths Oikonomias, otan o idios leei pws h xwra odhghqhke sthn katastash ayth ejaitias ths diakybernhshs ths apo treis oikogeneies, o G. Karatzaferhs apanthse pws sthn periodo ths krishs, ayth th stash ypagoreyei h eyqynh.

"O prwqypoyrgos omologhse to problhma kai zhthse bohqeia. Oloi arnhqhkan. Egw ekana protaseis, oi perissoteres den eginan dektes, kapoies yioqethqhkan. Egw to eixa pei apo thn arxh, "sta kala mazi, sta gkriza, apenanti". An twra ta perissotera einai gkriza den ftaiw egw, ftaiei o k. Karamanlhs. To oxi se ola den mas ekfrazei. Yparxoyn kommata, poy lene nai sta kala". Einai gegonos, pantws, opws eipe, pws yparxoyn treis oikogeneies poy kybernoyn kai prepei o topos na apallagei apo thn meggenh ayth.

Erwthqeis giati na epilejei kaneis to "isogeio" efoson isxyei h logikh ths "idias polykatoikias", o proedros toy LAOS apanthse pws to qema den einai ayto, alla to na pame se ena dialogo gia ta krisima qemata toy topoy. "Den einai sxeseis aytes, to na mhn miliwmaste" eipe kai dhlwse thn antiqesh toy sthn diejagwgh Eqnikwn eklogwn giati - aitiologhse - den to xreiazetai o topos, xreiazetai mia stereh kybernhsh.

Na proselqoyn oloi oi politikoi arxhgoi sth Boylh gia na syzhthqei se baqos to metanasteytiko zhthma, kalese o G. Karatzaferhs, dhlwntas pws h qesh toy kommatos toy einai eirhnh kai hsyxia ston topo. "Oxi na mhn mporei na kykloforhsei kaneis apo thn Aqhnas kai katw", anefere.

O proedros toy LAOS eipe pws h laqrometanasteysh einai terastio qema poy aggizei thn oikonomia kai toys alloys tomeis ths dhmosias zwhs, alla kai pws h xwra htan aproetoimasth na dexqei ta 2 ek. metanastes poy katagrafontai shmera, poso de mallon, otan symfwna me tis ektimhseis ekpomphs sthn thleorash, se pente xronia qa einai 5 ek. oi moysoylmanoi.

Thn qesh na mhn yperbainoyn to pososto toy 30% twn maqhtwn oi allodapoi maqhtes, yioqetei o LAOS, dhlwse o G. Karatzaferhs, legontas pws o Bretanos prwqypoyrgos poy to ejefrase "den qewreitai akraios".

Erwthqeis gia an qewroyntai isoi oi Ellhnes moysoylmanoi kai an qa prepei na kanoyn thn proseyxh toys sto sxoleio sthn qrhskeia toys, o k. Karatzaferhs eipe pws ayta ta qemata perigrafontai sto Syntagma kai qa htan akraia ratsistiko an elege kaneis pws den exoyn ta idia dikaiwmata. Omws, opws eipe, prepei na antimetwpizoyme tetoia qemata kata proswpo kai rwthse "mhpws sto telos qa katarghsoyme thn dikh mas pisth;".

Na yparjei mia isorroph dynamikh twn proteraiothtwn ths politikhs, wste na ejasfalistoyn h poiothta toy periballontos kai ta anagkaia agaqa gia na zhsoyn oi polites, zhthse o G. Karatzaferhs, prosqetontas pws sto komma toy yparxei ayjhmenh eyaisqhsia gia to periballon, omws "ti na pei kaneis gia to periballon stoys anqrwpoys poy den exoyn oyte cwmi".

"Einai o xwros poy zoyme, poy megalwnoyn ta paidia mas kai prepei na ginoyn polla pros thn kateyqynsh ths prostasias toy periballontos" anefere, alla prosqese pws ek twn pragmatwn mpainei se deyterh qesh twn proteraiothtwn, dedomenoy oti prwta prepei na "dwsoyme cwmi" stoys 2 ek. 200 xiliades anqrwpoys poy zoyn katw apo ta oria ths ftwxias.

Erwthqeis an symfwnei me enallaktikes morfes diaxeirishs twn aporrimmatwn h thn epilogh twn XYTA, o k. Karatzaferhs anefere oti h deyterh lysh exei apagoreytei apo thn EE kai xarakthrise adianohth thn katastash poy epikratei sth xwra mas. Xarakthrise de to paradeigma toy Kanada ena paradeigma prwtoy bhmatos gia thn xwra mas.

O Proedros toy LAOS G. Karatzaferhs o opoios rwthqhke gia to ``antifatiko stoixeio`` ths politikhs toy na ``xastoykizei`` thn kybernhsh kai taytoxrona na ``epanalambanei ton erwta toy`` giayth, enw thn idia stigmh qewreitai apo orismenoys oti anhkei sta akra, arnhqhke gia allh mia fora ton xarakthrismo ayto, legontas oti den apokleiei ton dialogo, opws kanoyn oi anqrwpoi twn akrwn.

Tonise thn anagkh na ``broyme akrh'' enocei twn adiejodwn poy, opws eipe, erxontai kai proeblece oti thn epomenh twn Eyrweklogwn ``polloi qa leme poy pame kai ti kanoyme'' kai oti qa anoijoyn sentoykia me skeletoys.

O k. Karatzaferhs eipe oti to komma toy epizhtei thn diafaneia kai epidiwkei na brisketai sto politiko paixnidi gia na ferei thn anoijh.

Sxetika me th stash poy threi enanti ths ND eipe oti gnwrizei pws to kybernwn komma exei ``kanei laqh'' kai ``barynetai me skandala'', alla prosqese oti ayto den shmainei pws sthn paratajh ayth den yparxoyn dyo kommata. Den tairiazei sth sygxronh epoxh na leme oxi se ola, epeshmane o k. Karatzaferhs.

Se allh erwthsh sxetika me to pws symbibazetai h epilogh ths Nikhs Tzabela, ws epikefalhs toy eyrwchfodeltioy toy LAOS, h opoia exei breqei konta se megales epixeirhseis, me dikes toy dhlwseis gia ``epixeirhmaties poy kinoyn ta nhmata``, o k. Karatzaferhs ypenqymise thn epixeirhmatikh idiothta kai toy idioy kai prosqese oti sthn prokeimenh periptwsh yphrjan systatikes epistoles apo toys k.k. Latsh, Kokkalh, Kyriakoy, apo thn Basilissa ths Iordanias kai to Panepisthmio toy Xarbarnt.

O k. Karatzaferhs dikaiologhse thn epilogh toy legontas oti h ka Tzabela qa bohqhsei sthn Eyrwph toso gia thn eisroh kondyliwn pros thn Ellada, oso kai gia thn enisxysh twn arxwn ths EE.

[06] "H idia kybernhsh thn allh mera"

Sxoliazontas ta peri sosialismoy h barbarothtas h k.Mpakogiannh ekfrazei th lyph ths ``oxi dioti me enoxlhse h eniwsa prosbeblhmenh, alla dioti den perimena mia tetoioy eidoys anafora apo enan sygxrono politiko opws qelei na paroysiazetai o Giwrgos Papandreoy'' opws shmeiwnei. Parallhla kathgorei to PASOK gia dhmagwgia kai pleiodosia yposxesewn h laikismoy. H k.Mpakogiannh tassetai kata twn prowrwn eklogwn giati aplws qa enteinoyn problhmata, enw anaferetai sta krisima ejwterika qemata poy qa klhqei na diaxeiristei to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn to deytero ejamhno toy 2009.

H synenteyjh ths k. Ntoras Mpakogiannh:

ER: Kyria Ypoyrge, ti diakybeyetai se aytes tis Eyrwekloges;

AP: Ayto to opoio diakybeyetai einai h eyrwpaikh poreia, h prooptikh ths Eyrwphs, ti qa kanei h Eyrwph en ocei poly megalwn allagwn. Perimenoyme toys Irlandoys na epikyrwsoyn me dhmochfisma th Synqhkh ths Lissabonas, etsi wste na mporesoyme ws Enwsh na kanoyme to bhma to opoio apaitoyn oi Eyrwpaioi polites apo emas.

Xreiazetai ena Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio to opoio qa dinei mia kaqhmerinh maxh me thn Epitroph. Kai qelw edw na pw oti to Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio exei para poly megales armodiothtes sthn kainoyria fash poy mpainoyme.

Ara einai poly shmantiko na ekproswphqei swsta h xwra mas apo Eyrwboyleytes pepeiramenoys, apo Eyrwboyleytes agwnistes, apo Eyrwboyleytes poy einai apofasismenoi na dwsoyn th maxh toys gia ola ta qemata poy aforoyn thn Ellada.

Exei kai ellhniko diakybeyma, me thn ennoia oti to mhnyma twn eklogwn, apo opoiadhpote kalph, eite einai kalph gia thn Topikh Aytodioikhsh, eite kalph gia th Nomarxiakh Aytodioikhsh, eite ayth twn Eyrweklogwn, exei panta kai ena mhnyma politiko. Apoch moy einai oti den qa dyskoleytei pote kanenas na to analysei. Den einai ekloges gia kybernhsh. Ayto einai safes. H kybernhsh qa einai h idia thn allh mera.

ER: Mporei to apotelesma omws na apotelesei aitia amfisbhthshs ths laikhs nomimopoihshs ths kybernhshs;

AP: Kata thn gnwmh moy oxi k. Melissopoyle. Kata th gnwmh moy oxi kai me thn ennoia oti oloi jeroyme oti h logikh twn Eyrweklogwn einai diaforetikh apo th logikh allwn eklogwn.

Epanalambanw oti kaqe eklogh exei th dikh ths taytothta kai ta dika ths xarakthristika. Etsi kai oi Eyrwekloges exoyn diafora apo tis eqnikes ekloges. Kai o poliths symperiferetai diaforetika se Eyrwekloges kai diaforetika se eqnikes ekloges, an prokeitai dhladh na epilejei Prwqypoyrgo ths xwras.

Shmera exei mia diaforetikh proseggish, dioti jerei oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa einai th Deytera to prwi, o Kwstas o Karamanlhs.

ER: To PASOK kathgorei gia politikh poy odhgei se barbarothta. Ti apantate eseis se ayto;

AP: Eyqews sas lew oti me lyphse para poly ayth h frash toy Giwrgoy Papandreoy. Oxi dioti me enoxlhse h eniwsa prosbeblhmenh, alla dioti den perimena mia tetoioy eidoys anafora apo enan sygxrono politiko opws qelei na paroysiazetai o Giwrgos Papandreoy.

H politikh den mporei na ginei me aytoys toys oroys. Den ginetai oyte me diafhmistika slogkan, oyte me fraseis tis opoies pairnoyme ejw apo kaqe politiko periballon kai tis xrhsimopoioyme aplws giati akoygontai wraia. H politikh qelei epixeirhmata, qelei programmata, qelei protaseis. Kai ayto to opoio anamenoyme apo thn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh einai na kataqesei aytes tis protaseis anti na katalhgei mono se dhmagwgia kai pleiodosia yposxesewn h laikismoy.

ER: Oi prowres ekloges qa htan mia lysh gia th diejodo apo ta problhmata kai thn krish;

AP: Kata th gnwmh moy oxi k. Melissopoyle. Oi prowres ekloges aplws qa enteinoyn problhmata, dioti h pragmatikothta einai oti h Ellada, opws kai oles oi eyrwpaikes xwres, brisketai mprosta se mia poly megalh krish. Oloi symfwnoyn, ma oloi ston kosmo, oti einai h megalyterh oikonomikh krish apo to 1929.

Xreos loipon ths kybernhshs -kai to exei analabei ayto me aisqhma eyqynhs- einai na bgalei th xwra apo ayth thn krish kai taytoxrona na metatrecei thn krish se mia eykairia, dhladh na bgoyme apo thn krish dynatoteroi. Ayth einai h doyleia mas, ayth einai h ypoxrewsh mas. Den lew oti einai eykolo, to antiqeto. Qewrw oti einai para poly dyskolo.

Einai dyskolh h maxh thn opoia dinoyme, alla ayth klhqhkame na dwsoyme kai prepei na antapokriqoyme sthn empistosynh poy mas edeijan oi Ellhnes polites perysi ton Septembrio.

ER: Kati teleytaio. To deytero ejamhno toy 2009 yparxoyn krisima qemata gia thn ejwterikh politikh ths xwras. Anhsyxeite gia kati anaforika me tis ejelijeis poy endexetai na yparjoyn;

AP: Akoyste. O kosmos mas gyrw mas allazei k. Melissopoyle kai allazei para poly grhgora. Sas milhsa prin gia thn Eyrwph kai gia tis nees proklhseis poy exoyme ws E.E. Emeis pantote yposthrizoyme oti h Ellada einai dynatoterh otan einai h Eyrwph dynatoterh. Einai isxyroterh h xwra mas ws melos ths E.E.

Exoyme mia krisimh an qelete syzhthsh h opoia qa ginei otan qa epanejetasoyme thn poreia ths Toyrkias pros thn E.E. An dhladh h Toyrkia exei antapokriqei h oxi stis ypoxrewseis ths. Basika dhladh gia to prwtokollo ths Agkyras kai thn efarmogh toy. Exoyme to Kypriako se diapragmateyseis. Krisimes diapragmateyseis oi opoies diejagontai metajy toy Proedroy Xristofia kai toy k. Talat. Dyskoles diapragmateyseis. Qa prepei na doyme pws qa proxwrhsoyn aytes.

Exoyme to onoma ths Prwhn Gioygkoslabikhs Dhmokratias ths Makedonias se ekkremothta. Oi diapragmateyseis pali ypo ton k. Nimits qa arxisoyn meta tis ekloges kata to telos toy mhnos. Qa ginei mia nea prospaqeia ejeyreshs koina apodekths lyshs.

Kai taytoxrona exoyme kai ton OASE, einai mia poly megalh proklhsh gia thn Ellhnikh Proedria. Opws jerete exoyme kalesei gia prwth fora sthn istoria toy OASE 56 Ypoyrgoys Ejwterikwn sthn Kerkyra, gia na mporesoyn na arxisoyn to dialogo gia thn eyrwpaikh asfaleia, ena dialogo o opoios oloi symfwnoyme oti prepei na ginei, me oloys mesa, dhladh kai th Rwsia kai thn Eyrwph kai thn Amerikh.

Ara nai oi proklhseis einai polles. H Ellada me aytopepoiqhsh xeirizetai ta qemata ayta ta opoia aforoyn thn ejwterikh mas politikh, exontas empistosynh kai sta epixeirhmata mas kai stis dynameis mas kai sth drash ths ellhnikhs Diplwmatikhs Yphresias.

[07] "Krish anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn"

Sthn ekqesh ayth, poy ariqmei panw apo 400 selides, h Dieqnhs Amnhstia katagrafei ton zofero apologismo twn parabiasewn twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn se olo ton kosmo, poy epideinwqhkan apo thn oikonomikh krish, kai kalei toys hgetes, kyriws aytoys ths G20, na "ependysoyn sta anqrwpina dikaiwmata me thn idia apofasistikothta poy maxontai yper ths oikonomikhs anaptyjhs".

"Kaqomaste kyriolektika panw se mia pyritidapoqhkh anisothtwn, adikias kai anasfaleias", grafei ston prologo h Iren Xan, genikh grammateas ths organwshs poy edreyei sto Londino.

"Den einai apla mia oikonomikh krish, einai mia krish anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn", ejhghse se synenteyjh ths sto Galliko Praktoreio. "Yparxoyn koinwnika, politika kai oikonomika problhmata poy epideinwqhkan apo thn oikonomikh krish, ta opoia diogkwnontai kai apoteloyn ena bradyfleges fytili".

"Ta teleytaia xronia, diapistwsame ypoxwrhseis se qemata anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn yper twn zhthmatwn asfaleias kai shmera, me thn oikonomikh krish, ta anqrwpina dikaiwmata mpainoyn akomh perissotero sto periqwrio".

Sthn Afrikh, h elleich trofhs eixe "dysanaloges synepeies stoys eypaqeis plhqysmoys", epishmainetai sthn ekqesh, kai prokalese aimathres sygkroyseis se olh thn hpeiro, idiaitera sthn Tynhsia, th Zimpampoye, to Kameroyn, h th Mozambikh.

Kai sthn Eyrwph omws h katastash den einai idanikh. H Dieqnhs Amnhstia kataggellei kyriws th xrhsh bombwn diasporas kai tis lehlasies poy diapraxqhkan kata th sygkroysh Rwsias-Gewrgias. "H sygkroysh ayth apedeije poso eyqraysth einai h antilhch oti, meta ton cyxro polemo, h Eyrwph exei epityxei mia oristikh asfaleia", ypogrammizei h ekqesh.

H mh-kybernhtikh organwsh kataggelei ejalloy ena "klima ratsismoy kai mh anektikothtas", se polles eyrwpaikes xwres, kyriws enantion "metanastwn, ebraiwn, moysoylmanwn kai twn Rom". Oi teleytaioi, tonizetai sthn ekqesh, "paramenoyn staqera apokleismenoi apo th dhmosia zwh se oles tis xwres".

Stis Hnwmenes Politeies, h Amnhstia xairetizei thn apofash toy proedroy Ompama na kleisei tis fylakes toy Gkoyantanamo kai na diekdikhsei mia qesh sto Symboylio Anqrwpinwn Dikaiwmatwn toy OHE. Alla epishmainei oti "einai poly nwris gia na krinei ean h amerikanikh kybernhsh qa askhsei pragmati piesh se xwres opws to Israhl h h Kina, se zhthmata sebasmoy twn qemeliwdwn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn -opws prattei gia paradeigma me to Iran kai to Soydan".

H organwsh ektima pantws oti oi apanthseis ths kybernhshs Ompama se sxesh me thn politikh toy prokatoxoy toy Tzwrtz Mpoys gia ton agwna kata thn tromokratia, yphrjan "kaqhsyxastikes".

"Diekdikoyme thn ajioprepeia"

H Dieqnhs Amnhstia arxizei shmera nea ekstrateia arwghs pros toys "fylakismenoys ths ftwxeias", ystera apo ekstrateies etwn poy diejhgage kata twn ayqairetwn syllhcewn kai krathsewn.

"H ftwxeia einai epishs ena problhma anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn opws kai oi ayqairetes krathseis", dhlwse h Iren Xan, genikh grammateas ths dieqnoys organwshs gia thn proaspish twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn.

"Qeloyme na dwsoyme th dynamh stoys anqrwpoys poy zoyn sth ftwxeia wste na mporoyn na broyn lyseis sta problhmata toys", prosqese kata th synenteyjh Typoy poy edwse me thn eykairia ths dhmosiopoihshs ths ethsias ekqeshs ths organwshs sto Londino.

H ekstrateia me titlo "Diekdikoyme thn ajioprepeia", kata twn ayjhmenwn parabiasewn twn qemeliwdwn dikaiwmatwn poy diaprattontai ejaitias ths oikonomikhs krishs, exei stoxo ton termatismo twn ejwsewn apo tis paragkoypoleis kai thn prowqhsh twn dikaiwmatwn twn gynaikwn kai twn iqagenwn.

H megalh ayjhsh twn timwn twn trofimwn epideinwse to problhma ths peinas. Koinothtes aytoxqonwn sterhqhkan ta dikaiwmata toys kai ekatontades xiliades anqrwpoi poy zoysan stis paragkoypoleis ekrizwqhkan dia ths bias en onomati ths oikonomikhs anaptyjhs, epishmainei h Dieqnhs Amnhstia.

H ekstrateia qa diarkesei toylaxiston eji xronia kai qa egkainiastei epishma ton Ioynio, kata thn episkech ths Xan sthn paragkoypolh Kimpera ths Kenyas, apo tis megalyteres paragkoypoleis ths Afrikhs.

H prospaqeia ayth ths Dieqnoys Amnhstias jekina se periodo oikonomikhs krishs, epoxh poy eynoei thn peristolh orismenwn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn. H oikonomikh krish einai synwnymo twn ayjhmenwn parabiasewn twn qemeliwdwn dikaiwmatwn, ektima h dieqnhs organwsh. "Einai mia ekstrateia gia to adiaireto twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn", anaferei.

H ekstrateia qa anaptyxqei se treis basikoys ajones: th mhtrikh qnhsimothta, thn katastash stis paragkoypoleis kai thn hqikh twn epixeirhsewn. Epishs qa epikentrwqei kai stis xwres poy emfanizontai ws hgetes toy sygxronoy kosmoy. "Ta tria tetarta twn parabiasewn twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn shmeiwnontai stis xwres ths G20 (ths Omadas twn biomhxanikwn xwrwn kai twn anadyomenwn oikonomiwn toy planhth). Ayto deixnei to megeqos toy ergoy poy exoyme na kanoyme", tonizei.

Sto plaisio ths neas ayths ekstrateias, h Dieqnhs Amnhstia zhta kyriws apo tis HPA kai thn Kina na epikyrwsoyn ta basika dieqnh organa ths prostasias twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn.

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