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Athens News Agency: News in Greek, 08-03-12

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From: The Athens News Agency at <http://www.ana.gr/>

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  • [01] "Kykneio asma dikommatismoy"

    [01] "Kykneio asma dikommatismoy"

    Sthn poreia toy SYN kai toy SYRIZA, enocei ths epikeimenhs trihmerhs syndiaskechs toy (14 ews 16 Martioy), thn ayjhsh twn posostwn dhmotikothtas poy apolambanei symfwna me tis dhmoskophseis, to asfalistiko alla kai to qema ths onomasias ths PGDM, anaferqhke me apokleistikh synenteyjh toy sto APE-MPE kai ston Niko Droso, o proedros ths K.O. toy SYRIZA Al. Alabanos.

    Akoloyqei to plhres keimeno.

    ER.: Kyrie Proedre to Sabbatokyriako exete Syndiaskech ston SYRIZA. Poio einai to mellon aytoy toy sxhmatos;

    AP.: Kat' arxhn na poyme oti einai h prwth tetoioy eidoys eyreia panelladikh syskech poy ginetai, toy Synaspismoy Rizospastikhs Aristeras.

    To mellon einai kalytero apb ayto poy problepame, dioti deixnei oti se mia telmatwmenh koinwnia oi qeseis, oi parembaseis, oi topoqethseis, h paroysia toy Synaspismoy Rizospastikhs Aristeras einai ena stoixeio elpidas, prosdokias, newn orizontwn kai gi ayto me eyqynh, an qelete, prepei nb antimetwpisoyme olh ayth thn enapoqesh prooptikwn, poy ginetai shmera apo megalo meros ths koinwnias pros ta emas.

    ER.: Symfwna me tis teleytaies metrhseis o SYRIZA pairnei 17%, to PASOK 31% kai h Nea Dhmokratia 37,5% kai aytodynamia, para tis 6,5 monades diafora metajy twn dyo kommatwn ejoysias, poyqena. To diko sas sxolio.

    AP.: Nomizw oti to sxolio mas to kaname apo prin kai qa elega to kaname phgainontas pros tis ekloges, legontas oti zoyme to kykneio asma, to telos ths epoxhs toy dikommatismoy. Oti einai ena systhma poy exei oloklhrwsei ton kyklo toy, oti ayth th stigmh odhgei sthn Ellada se stasimothta kai se krish kai oti afypnizontai oi polites. Me ayth thn ennoia qa elega oti osa mpalwmata kai na mpoyn sthn koyberta, pali skismenh qa einai. Einai xarakthristiko oti akomh kai me to neo nomo poy eftiaje o k. Paylopoylos kai qa leitoyrghsei stis meqepomenes ekloges kai poy problepei 50 -fantasteite- edres dwro sto prwto komma anti gia 40 poy proeblepe o nomos toy PASOK, den qa yparxei aytodynamia.

    Nomizw oti eimaste en kinhsei, oti oi ekloges de qa ginoyn me toys shmerinoys sysxetismoys kai ayto poy blepw egw kai parathrw einai oti exoyme thn taytoxronh kamch kai twn dyo dynamewn poy einai oi pylwnes toy dikommatismoy, ths Neas Dhmokratias kai toy PASOK, ths kybernhshs kai ths antipoliteyshs. Ayto einai prwtofanes kai deyteron (s.s. blepoyme) parallhla mia qeamatikh qa elega kai entypwsiakh anodo twn dynamewn ths Aristeras oi opoies pisteyw oti synistoyn pia thn enallaktikh lysh sto shmerino systhma.

    ER.: Ypo to fws aytwn twn ejelijewn, mhpws qa prepei na janadoyme ayth th stash poy exei yioqethsei mexri twra o diadoxos sas; Leei oti den exei protash ejoysias. Ginetai stadiaka o Synaspismos, o SYRIZA, komma ejoysias; Exete bleceis gia thn ejoysia;

    AP.: Koitajte, komma ejoysias me thn ennoia ths Neas Dhmokratias kai toy PASOK elpizw na mh ginomaste. Kai den qeloyme na ginoyme. De qeloyme aplws na einai mia antikatastash tampelas h mia antikatastash proswpwn stis idies karekles kai ston idio tropo efarmoghs ths politikhs sth xwra mas.

    Emeis eimaste anorqodojoi, eimaste airetikoi, eimaste diaforetikoi. Sthrizomaste sthn energopoihsh ths koinwnias. Protaseis kybernhtikes na sas gracei o kaqenas, mexri to brady oses qelei. To xarakthristiko poy exoyme apo ta megala kommata, ta dyo mexri twra, to PASOK kai th Nea Dhmokratia htan oti edinan polyselida programmata , sxedon thlefwnikoys katalogoys programmatwn prin tis ekloges, apo ta opoia den efarmozotan tipota.

    To shmantiko gia mena einai na exeis enallaktikh lysh. Na einai tekmhriwmenh, na einai pragmatopoihsimh, na einai ejeidikeymenh. Thn idia stigmh omws ayth h lysh nb allazei ta pragmata, na mhn einai h barka mesa sto elos alla nb anoigetai se kainoyrgies qalasses kai se kainoyrgies dynatothtes kai na mporei na kinhtopoiei thn koinwnia.

    Dioti gia na epiteyxqei mia politikh san ki ayth poy prowqei o Synaspismos Rizospastikhs Aristeras se sygkroysh me megala kai jena kai eswterika symferonta, qelei na exeis dynameis ths koinwnias.

    Exoyme dwsei deigma grafhs; Giati qa mporoysate na peite, oti ayta poy sas lew einai genika ki aorista. Exoyme dwsei deigma grafhs. Einai xarakthristiko, sas lew ena paradeigma, to qema ths Paideias opoy apo th mia emeis prwtagwnisthsame se olo ayto to Kinhma gyrw apo to arqro 16 kai apo thn allh hmastan h monh dynamh ths antipoliteyshs h opoia mesa sth Boylh, otan hrqe o nomos plaisio ths Neas Dhmokratias, paroysiase ton diko ths enallaktiko dhmokratiko nomo plaisio.

    Ayto prospaqoyme na kanoyme se kaqe ti, eite einai qemata paideias, eite qemata agrotika, eite to Asfalistiko, eite otidhpote allo.

    ER.: Einai polloi aytoi oi opoioi yposthrizoyn oti h synqesh toswn pollwn apocewn sto plaisio toy SYRIZA, sto plaisio kai toy Synaspismoy, den einai idiaitera efikth ki oti otan erqei h wra poy qa katastalajei ayth h apoch, tote qa fanoyn ta pragmatika problhmata sth domh toy sxhmatos toy opoioy hgeiste koinoboyleytika.

    AP.: Na sas pw, h empeiria poy exoyme prin tis ekloges, stis ekloges, meta tis ekloges einai oti eixame mia acogh sygklhsh stis kentrikes politikes qeseis. Fysika sthrizetai se mia diaforetikothta giati ayth einai mia symmaxia dynamewn, den exei paroysiastei kanena problhma kai qa sas elega, oti an kaneis anoijei tis selides twn efhmeridwn qa dei oti ta eswterika problhmata yparxoyn sto PASOK, ta eswterika problhmata yparxoyn sth Nea Dhmokratia, endexomenws kai se alla kommata poy den eixan. Den einai ayta omws poy dinoyn to stigma shmera toy Synaspismoy Rizospastikhs Aristeras.

    Akribws epeidh exoyme syzhthsei mia politikh bash thn opoia qa janadei h Syndiaskech mas, exoyme ena staqero edafos panw sto opoio kinoymaste, den kinoymaste panw sthn ammo.

    ER.: Blepoyme oti mexri twra o Synaspismos kai o SYRIZA katebaine stis ekloges aytonoma. Yphrxe arnhsh synergasias epi ths oysias an qelete, praktika milwntas, toso me to PASOK oso kai me to Kommoynistiko Komma. Apo thn allh blepoyme oti o Alejhs Tsipras leei oti qa htan eyxhs ergo mia synergasia me to KKE. Ti isxyei;

    AP.: Apo palia exoyme pei oti emeis qeloyme th synergasia olwn twn dynamewn ths Aristeras ki exoyme pei xarakthristika oti yparxei kai h adeia karekla poy perimenei ton kaqena. Apo kei kai pera bebaia to egxeirhma mas den einai desmio toy ``nai'' h toy ``oxi'' kanenos kai mb ayth thn ennoia, pairnontas ypoch thn arnhtikh stash poy exei h hgesia toy KKE, proxwroyme. Proxwroyme dynamika kai proxwroyme me mia prwtofanh apodoxh sthn koinwnia.

    Nomizw oti einai para poly shmantiko kai pisteyw oti polloi kommoynistes shmera xairontai apo to gegonos oti mesa apo thn prwtoboyliakh drash toy Synaspismoy Rizospastikhs Aristeras, h Ellada janampainei sthn wra ths Aristeras se mia epoxh poy eixame na thn doyme para polla xronia, poy oi neoi anqrwpoi oyte thn jeroyn kai opoy h Aristera anadeiknyetai sb enan apb toys prwtagwnistes ths dhmosias zwhs sthn Ellada.

    Qa elega oti isws h teleytaia fora poy eixe ginei ayto, htan sto telos ths xoyntas. Gia thn akribeia, meta thn ptwsh ths, otan ebgaine h Aristera me terasties dynameis mesa sto neolaiistiko kai foithtiko Kinhma, alla htan kati poy den krathse. Qa elega oti eimaste pali se mia epoxh staqmo opoy h Aristera mpainei dynamika sto proskhnio.

    ER.: Se ayth thn Aristera, se ayto to17% an qelete kai an mporoyme na to baloyme katw apo olh ayth thn omprela, ti lete akribws; Pws diaxeirizeste th qeamatikh ayjhsh dhmotikothtos;

    AP.: Emeis kat' arxhn jeroyme oti eimaste ypo dokimh kai jeroyme oti mas parathroyn prosektika oi polites kai oi neoi anqrwpoi. Kai jeroyme oti exoyn apogohteyqei polles fores apo alles emfaniseis politikwn dynamewn poy eixan ferei mia anataraxh sta nera.

    Emeis qeloyme mb enan tropo ypeyqyno kai agwnistiko kai rizospastiko nb antapokriqoyme sta aithmata toys. Den stamatame omws, oyte sb ena 15% oyte sb ena 17% oyte sb ena 19%. Emas h poreia mas anagkastika paei mprosta kai ayto shmainei oti agwnizomaste gia na dhmioyrghqei mia nea pleiochfia. Na diamorfwqei mia enallaktikh lysh me epikentro tis dynameis enos megaloy Synaspismoy ths Rizospastikhs Aristeras o opoios qa mporesei na ferei mia allh poreia sth xwra mas.

    Einai poly filodojo ayto; Einai sto xwro ths fantasias; Pisteyw pws oxi. Mia Aristera toy 17% prin ligoys mhnes mporoyse na symbei monaxa sth fantasia mas. Ola ayta deixnoyn oti mporoyn na ginoyn kai qa elega oti yparxoyn dyo megala reymata shmera me ta opoia synantiomaste, to ena einai to reyma ths neas genias kai einai poly shmantiko alla kai poly bary kai apaitei pollh eyqynh gia mas, to oti h nea genia se poly megalo pia baqmo akoympaei tis prosdokies ths sb emas. To deytero einai ena megalo reyma poy ginetai apo ton sosialistiko xwro, poy blepei oti mesa apo th synanthsh toy me to Synaspismo Rizospastikhs Aristeras qa mporesei para polla aithmata ta opoia to PASOK de mporese na ta prowqhsei mesa apo thn enswmatwsh toy sto systhma, qa mporesei na ta janazwntanecei mesa apo ayth thn koinh drash me thn Aristera.

    ER.: Asfalistiko: Leme oxi mexri to telos kai se ola; Den prepei na ftiajei to systhma;

    AP.: Fysika prepei na ftiajei to systhma, alla den prepei na ftiajei to systhma gia na xalasoyn oi ergazomenoi kai na xalasoyn ta kekthmena toys kai na xalasoyn ta dikaiwmata toys.

    Exoyme ena systhma gia na sthrijoyme toys anqrwpoys, na sthrijoyme toys anqrwpoys ths triths hlikias oi opoioi mpainoyn sth syntajh, na exoyn mia ajiopreph zwh, na exoyn mia asfaleia, na exoyn periqalch ktl.

    Se poia kateyqynsh prepei na kinhqoyme; Prepei na kinhqoyme sthn kateyqynsh toy na sthrijoyme tb apoqematika twn Tameiwn, na exoyn xrhmata. Ayto einai to problhma, na exoyn xrhmata ta Tameia prokeimenoy nb antapejerxontai stis dyskolies toys.

    Ti qa eprepe na kanoyme prwta apb ola; Na stamathsoyme ayto to parti poy ginetai enantia sta Tameia. Na stamathsoyme thn eisforodiafygh poy ftanei peripoy ta 5,8 dis eyrw to xrono. Na doqoyn ta xreh toy Dhmosioy, 8,5 dis eyrw, toy idiwtikoy tomea, 4 peripoy dis eyrw, sta Tameia. Na exei to IKA elegktikoys mhxanismoys, prokeimenoy ta alla Tameia na mazeyoyn tis eisfores. Na mhn exei elleimma ypallhlwn, poy shmera exoyn oi asfalistikoi Organismoi kai kyria to IKA. Sb ayth thn kateyqynsh, nb asfalistoyn oi neoi poy doyleyoyn anasfalista wste na exei to systhma poroys. Nb apokthsoyn megalytera asfalistika dikaiwmata oi neoi, poy doyleyoyn me proswrinh h merikh apasxolhsh ki etsi xanei poroys to systhma. Einai aplh h kateyqynsh. Yparxei programma, exei dhmioyrghqei apo tis politikes twn kybernhsewn kai den antimetwpizetai ayto to problhma.

    Anti na prostrejoyme stis phges kai tis aities twn problhmatwn, antiqeta apodexomaste th shmerinh paqologia, apodexomaste oti o kaqe megalos ergodoths mporei na kataklebei to asfalistiko systhma, apodexomaste oti oi diafores JP MORGAN, megales polyeqnikes, mporei na giortazoyn me tb apoqematika toy ellhnikoy asfalistikoy systhmatos kai antiqeta, kateyqynoyme th drash mas sth meiwsh, me mia agriothta kiolas, twn kekthmenwn twn ergazomenwn.

    Otan xreiazetai apo 50 hmeromisqia 100, prokeimenoy kapoios nb apokthsei bibliario ygeias, katalabainete posoi neoi kai posoi metanastes kai posoi alloi xamhlwn eidikothtwn ergazomenoi xanoyn to dikaiwma na exoyn akomh kai bibliario ygeias.

    Otan h proswrinh syntajiodothsh shmainei oti qa exeis prostimo kapoia pososta poy qa meiwnetai h syntajh, fantasteite posoi anqrwpoi oi opoioi eixan ergastei epi dekaetias, dyskoleyontai, exoyn meinei sthn anergia sta 55 toys, sta 54 toys h sta 56 toys kai anagkazontai na bgoyn prowra sth syntajiodothsh, xanontas omws, ena megalo meros ths syntajhs.

    Otan thn plhrwnei h mhtera epeidh exei anhlika paidia, katalabainete oti einai mia agria metarryqmish h opoia den prepei na perasei.

    ER.: Mporoyn wstoso ta syndikata nb anastatwnoyn se tetoio baqos thn loiph koinwnikh zwh; O k. Tsipras malista yposthrije milwntas gia to Xrhmatisthrio, oti ``ti egine ki an ekleise mia-dyo meres; Den epitelei toso shmantiko rolo sthn oikonomikh zwh toy topoy''!. Toses xiliades noikokyria menoyn kaqhmerina xwris reyma, eixame malista kai qanathfora peristatika. Einai dynaton ta syndikata na kaqorizoyn th genikoterh politikh aytoy toy topoy;

    AP.: Dystyxws th strathgikh ths entashs den thn egkainiasan ta syndikata, thn egkainiase h kybernhsh mb ayth thn epiqesh. Den ekane syzhthsh mazi toys. Bazei xeri sta Tameia toys. Tameia ta opoia den breqhkan sth dinh twn domhmenwn omologwn kai einai ygih. Anti na ta epibrabeysei, oysiastika erxetai kai toys dhmeyei thn perioysia. Epomenws tis eyqynes tis fernei h kybernhsh.

    Apo kei kai pera fysika ta Swmateia prepei panta na exoyn ypoch tis parenergeies poy qa yparxoyn sto koinwniko synolo kai na einai etsi meqodeymenes kai prosektikes oi energeies toys. Bebaia, apb th stigmh poy paroysiasthkan kai problhmata san ki ayta poy anaferate, qanatoi ktl., nomizw oti exei mia eyqynh h kybernhsh. Einai twra mia ebdomada ayth h apergia. Qa mporoyse na katagracei oles ekeines tis periptwseis tis katepeigoyses poy h diakoph toy hlektrikoy reymatos estw kai gia liga lepta mporei na einai kairia gia th zwh kapoiwn anqrwpwn, wste na yparxoyn metra kai na mhn yparxoyn tetoies epiptwseis.

    Alla janalew, xeirwn adikwn kai thn epiqesh kai th strathgikh ths entashs thn jekinhse o Prwqypoyrgos kai h idia h kybernhsh.

    ER.: Teleytaia erwthsh k. Proedre: Qa eprepe to Skopiano na exei lhjei edw kai 17 xronia;

    AP.: Fysika qa eprepe. Qelw na elpizw omws oti th sofia poy den eixame prin apo 17 xronia qa thn exoyme shmera. Qelw na pisteyw oti me enan tropo cyxraimo kai hremo, qa proxwrhsoyme stis diapragmateyseis, wste na broyme mia amoibaia apodekth lysh.

    Qa elega, mono h sygkrish twn legomenwn syllalhthriwn sthn arxh ths dekaetias toy b90 me ayta poy eginan prin apo liges meres, deixnei oti oi Ellhnes Makedones alla kai oloi oi Ellhnes polites einai pia poly pio sofoi, poly pio synetoi, exoyn ligotero fobo, ligotero agxos kai jeroyn oti mesa apo tis diapragmateyseis mporoyme na broyme lysh.


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