[01] Proetoimasia gia to zhthma ths onomasias ths PGDM

H ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, meta th synanthsh, klhqeisa na sxoliasei th synenteyjh toy Skopianoy omologoy ths sthn efhmerida "Eleyqeros Typos", poy deixnei oti h geitonikh xwra akoloyqei sklhrh grammh, h k. Mpakogiannh anefere "h Ellada den exei kamia anagkh oyte na shkwsei toys tonoys oyte na proxwroyme se proklhtikes dhlwseis. Gia th skopianh hgesia yparxei ena poly sygkekrimeno diakybeyma: apo th mia meria h qetikh proseggish, h apodoxh toy qetikoy mhnymatos ths xwras mas, h eyrwatlantikh prooptikh toys, h oikonomikh kai perifereiakh staqerothta. Apo thn allh meria mporoyn na meinoyn pistoi sthn adiallajia toys.''

Apantwntas se allh erwthsh an ta xronodiagrammata einai stena, h k. Mpakogiannh shmeiwse "yparxei mia sygkekrimenh wra, ena sygkekrimeno xronodiagramma. Ayth th stigmh fainetai oti apo thn pleyra toy to NATO qelei na proxwrhsei se endexomenes prosklhseis gia tis treis xwres - poy kai ayto den einai apolyto dioti h Kroatia prohgeitai - sthn epomenh synodo toy. Ara to xronodiagramma einai dedomeno".

O presbhs k. Basilakhs anefere oti exei thn empistosynh toy prwqypoyrgoy kai ths ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn, enw apantwntas se erwthsh poia htan h pio dyskolh stigmh poy eixe stis diapragmateyseis, o k. Basilakhs anefere "prepei na exeis epimonh kai ypomonh kai otan ta exeis nomizw oti epitygxaneis".

Se allh erwthsh an exei proswpikes sxeseis me ton diapragmateyth twn Skopiwn, o k. Basilakhs apanthse syzhtame alla den briskoyme lyseis. Epanalambanoyme ayta poy leme kai dhmosiws.

Synanthsh K.Karamanlh-Pr.Paylopoyloy

To meshmeri, o prwqypoyrgos eixe synergasia me ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn Prokoph Paylopoylo.

O k. Paylopoylos dhlwse oti syzhthse me ton K. Karamanlh gia to qema ths aporrofhtikothtas twn koinotikwn kondyliwn enocei toy ESPA, shmeiwnontas oti ews to telos ths ebdomadas qa diorganwqei h 20h Synodos twn Genikwn Grammatewn Perifereias, sth Qessalonikh, kaqws qa arxisei h efarmogh oswn exoyn sxediastei me dedomeno oti panw apo to 80% toy D' KPS paei sthn perifereia.

O ypoyrgos anefere oti oi kybernhseis toy PASOK exasan enamisi xrono sto G' KPS kai h aporrofhtikothta poy parelabe h kybernhsh ths ND to 2004 htan 15,6% gia tessera xronia. Den exoyme kanena skopo na epanalaboyme ta laqh toy parelqontos, eipe o k. Paylopoylos, shmeiwnontas oti otan arxisei kati straba, meta apo ekei kai pera yparxoyn problhmata.

Organwnetai, ypogrammise, olh h perifereia kai h Topikh Aytodioikhsh, wste ayth h megalh eykairia gia thn anaptyjh toy topoy kai thn koinwnikh synoxh na paei omala, opws tairiazei se mia xwra me tis prooptikes poy exei shmera h ellhnikh oikonomia.

To deytero zhthma, eipe o k. Paylopoylos, to opoio qa syzhthqei ayrio sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph, einai h nea domh ths politikhs prostasias enocei toy eniaioy ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn, opoy synergazontai oloi oi foreis, eite legetai Topikh Aytodioikhsh, eite Swmata Asfaleias, eite kaqe alloy eidoys dhmosia yphresia, etsi wste apo thn arxh na yparxei o sxediasmos kai o syntonismos poy epiballetai gia thn antimetwpish oiasdhpote xrhshs.

O k. Paylopoylos anefere, apantwntas se sxetikes erwthseis, oti den eteqh qema gia allagh stis hgesies ths Pyrosbestikhs Yphresias kai ths Astynomias, shmeiwnontas oti "den einai doyleia enos ypoyrgoy apo th stigmh poy den exei qesei tetoio qema, oyte ton apasxolei tetoio qema, na apanta se fhmes oi opoies kykloforoyn".

Apantwntas se allh erwthsh gia to pote qa allajei o eklogikos nomos, o k. Paylopoylos anefere oti "o eklogikos nomos qa allajei sthn arxh ths qhteias ths kybernhshs kai opws jerete ayto shmainei ews to telos ths prwths Synodoy ths Boylhs". O k. Paylopoylos eipe oti den einai epikairo to zhthma, oyte qa syzhthqei sthn ayrianh kybernhtikh epitroph.

O ypoyrgos ypogrammise epishs, apantwntas se erwthsh peri prowrwn eklogwn, pws "h frontida ths kybernhshs, h opoia exei poly prosfath th laikh entolh kai th laikh empistosynh, einai na lysei ta problhmata toy topoy kai oxi na asxoleitai me pragmata, poy mporei na exoyn dhmosiografiko endiaferon, alla apo pleyras politikhs kai apo pleyras stoxwn den exoyn kamia apolytws shmasia. Epomenws epi senariwn den apantw kai den xreiazetai na apanthsw".

[02] Sthn telikh eyqeia gia thn eklogh proedroy

Sth Synodo symmetexoyn ek meroys toy Israhl o ypoyrgos Amynas kai hgeths toy Ergatikoy Kommatos Exoynt Mparak, kaqws epishs kai o Giosi Mpeilin hgeths toy kommatos ths Aristeras Meretz.

Shmantikh ejelijh qewrhqhke to gegonos oti palaistiniakh antiproswpeia ths Fatax alla kai toy Metwpoy gia thn Apeleyqerwsh ths Palaistinhs symmeteixan stis ergasies ths Synodoy sto Tel Abib, enw antistoixws ayrio antiproswpeies toy Ergatikoy Kommatos toy Israhl kai toy Meretz qa metaboyn sth Ramala symmetexontas kai aytoi stis ergasies ths Synodoy ths Sosialistikhs Dieqnoys, ekei.

Anoigontas tis ergasies ths Synodoy o k. Papandreoy tonise oti "an kai exw breqei polles fores edw sto parelqon, an kai parakoloyqw stena to Mesanatoliko, oi ypoxrewseis moy ayth thn periodo kai o xronos moy estiazontai stis diadikasies ekloghs proedroy sto PASOK.

Parola ayta enoiwsa ypoxrewmenos na erqw sth sygkekrimenh xronikh stigmh, afoy oi ejelijeis einai krisimoteres apo kaqe allh fora".

Apantwntas ston k. Papandreoy o Efraim Snex antiproedros toy Ergatikoy Kommatos toy Israhl, tonise oti ektimoyn idiaitera thn eyaisqhsia kai thn afosiwsh poy epideiknyei ws proedros ths Sosialistikhs Dieqnoys sto Mesanatoliko, afoy en mesw ths proeklogikhs periodoy sto PASOK o idios epeleje na erqei edw kai na sthrijei tis prospaqeies Palaistiniwn kai Israhlinwn.

H Synodos lambanei xwra se mia stigmh poy parathreitai entonh kinhtikothta sto Palaistiniako. Hdh oi hgesies Palaistiniwn kai Israhlinwn exoyn synanthqei tesseris fores sto plaisio ths diamorfwshs mias koinhs platformas gia ta qemata ta opoia qa klhqoyn na diapragmateyqoyn sth Synodo poy qa ginei sthn Anapolh twn HPA , stis 26 Noembrioy.

Entypwsh wstoso, prokalese to gegonos, oti enw oi dyo pleyres epixeiroyn h deixnoyn na epixeiroyn na gefyrwsoyn tis diafores toys, o hgeths toy Ergatikoy Kommatos toy Israhl Exoynt Mparak egkateleice tis ergasies ths Synodoy prin thn afijh ths Palaistiniakhs antiproswpeias.

Ta qemata ta opoia syzhtoyntai aforoyn thn katastash poy exei diamorfwqei sta Palaistiniaka edafh, th shmerinh pragmatikothta metajy Xamas kai Fatax kaqws epishs kai tis piqanothtes epityxias ths Synodoy sthn Anapolh.

To meshmeri o k. Papandreoy qa episkefqei ton Patriarxh Ierosolymwn Qeofilo ton G' kai amesws meta qa synanthqei sto Proedriko Megaro me ton Proedro toy Israhl Simon Peres, enw sth synexeia qa anaxwrhsei gia th Ramala opoy qa synanthqei me Palaistinioys ajiwmatoyxoys.

O G. Papandreoy sta Giannena

``Kaloymaste na kanoyme megales tomes sth xwra mas, na fygoyme apo ta adiejoda kai thn stasimothta, na fygoyme apo ena politiko systhma poy adikei thn perifereia, poy dhmioyrgei anisothtes, poy apogohteyei dhmioyrgikes dynameis kai bazei empodia sthn prwtoboylia, poy dhmioyrgei ejarthseis pelateiakes'', dhlwse o G. Papandreoy apo ta Giannena opoy parakoloyqhse thn parelash gia thn epeteio ths 28hs Oktwbrioy.

O proedros toy PASOK symplhrwse sth dhlwsh toy oti prepei ``na pame se ena neo politiko systhma kai se ena neo anaptyjiako montelo, poy ependyei ston anqrwpo, poy ependyei sto periballon mas, poy ependyei sthn paradosh mas kai thn istoria, poy anadeiknyei tis ajies mas kai kanei thn Ellada dynamh se pagkosmio epipedo''. Aythn thn Ellada qeloyme, gib aythn agwnizomaste, katelhje o k. Papandreoy, poy to brady toy Sabbatoy milhse se sygkentrwsh sthn idia polh.

Dhlwsh Ey. Benizeloy

``Osa ginontai sto eswteriko toy PASOK aforoyn to synolo toy ellhnikoy laoy'', dhlwse o boyleyths kai ypochfios proedros toy Kinhmatos Eyaggelos Benizelos, sto periqwrio ths parelashs gia thn 28h Oktwbrioy poy pragmatopoihqhke sth Qessalonikh.

``Stis 11 Noembrioy krinetai se poly megalo baqmo to mellon toy topoy kai to apotelesma twn epomenwn boyleytikwn eklogwn poy den qa arghsoyn na erqoyn'', eipe kai prosqese: ``Epeidh, omws, h epeteios einai eqnikh prepei na skeftoyme eqnika. Prepei na exoyme to myalo mas strammeno sto mellon ths patridas. Gi ayto as agwnizomaste, as antistekomaste, as elpizoyme kai as dhmioyrgoyme. H 28h Oktwbrioy stelnei ena mhnyma. To dikaiwma sthn aisiodojia kai sth xeirafethsh''.

To brady o k. Benizelos qa milhsei se sygkentrwsh sto Sportingk, enw argotera qa exei synanthsh me anqrwpoys twn Grammatwn, twn Texnwn kai twn Episthmwn sto Moyseio Mpenakh.

Sth Lamia o K.Skandalidhs

Thn politikh toy platforma qa paroysiasei shmera sth Qessalonikh o K.Skandalidhs.

Idiaitera enwtikos kai me to blemma sthn epomenh hmera twn eklogwn htan o ypochfios proedros toy PASOK Kwstas Skandalidhs poy milhse arga to brady toy Sabbatoy, se sygkentrwsh stelexwn sth Lamia.

``To PASOK meta tis ekloges einai ypoxrewmeno na proxwrhsei se mia rota poy einai dedomenh. H poreia toy den ejartatai apla apo enan kapetanio, alla apo to plhrwma, apo toys kwphlates, apo toys axqoforoys twn idewn'', ypogrammise metajy allwn o k. Skandalidhs. O k. Skandalidhs prosdiorise ta aitia ths httas toy PASOK oxi se proswpika stoixeia alla kyriws giati ``exasan oi idees mas'', opws eipe xarakthristika kai symplhrwse: ``Xasame giati politika den peisame me tis prwtoboylies mas. Xasame giati programmatika den htan eykrineis oi stoxoi mas. Xasame giati organwtika to PASOK htan to idio me to PASOK toy 2004''.

Synenteyjh M. Xrysoxoidh

Amesh synanthsh twn triwn ypochfiwn proedrwn toy PASOK kai twn armodiwn organwn prokeimenoy na apofasistoyn diadikasies kai adiablhtos tropos diejagwghs chfoforias, zhta o prwhn ypoyrgos kai boyleyths toy Kinhmatos Mixalhs Xrysoxoidhs.

"Parakoloyqw me poly megalh anhsyxia thn politikh antiparaqesh" - anaferei se synenteyjh toy sto APE-MPE o k. Xrysoxoidhs. "Pisteyw oti den exoyme katorqwsei ayto gia to opoio ginetai h chfoforia, dhladh na proselkysoyme to endiaferon ths koinwnias. Exw proswpika poly megales epifylajeis kata poso telika olh ayth h diadikasia mporei na mas odhghsei se ena nikhforo apotelesma, stis ekloges. Gi'ayto ekeino poy proexei shmera einai na pesoyn oi tonoi kai na deijoyme o kaqenas ton kalytero toy eayto, wste na stamathsei ayth h antiparaqesh poy den tima oyte th diadromh mas, oyte thn prosfora mas sth xwra".

Sxoliazontas thn parembash toy prwhn prwqypoyrgoy kai proedroy toy PASOK K. Shmith, o opoios se dhlwseis toy apo to Londino amfisbhthse th diadikasia ekloghs, o k. Xrysoxoidhs tonise oti "o tropos diejagwghs ths chfoforias einai swstos giati dinei th dynatothta se kaqe polith poy brisketai se omoro me to PASOK xwro na symmetasxei sthn chfoforia".

Erwthsh: Orismenoi qewrhsan ayth thn parembash toy prwhn prwqypoyrgoy san prooimio gia na amfisbhthqei argotera to adiablhto ths diadikasias.

Apanthsh: Gia na apokleistei kati tetoio prepei na yparjei amesa mia synanthsh twn triwn ypochfiwn kai twn armodiwn organwn, wste na kleidwsoyn oi diadikasies kai o tropos diejagwghs ths chfoforias gia na mhn yparjei kamia amfibolia gia to ti prepei na ginei stis 11 toy mhna. Den yparxei logos na kanoyme dikh proqesewn, alla oyte na afhsoyme ta pragmata etsi poy na mporei o kaqenas na amfisbhtei to apotelesma.

"To PASOK -tonizei- den exei anagkh apo proswpikes antiparaqeseis. Exei anagkh apo aytognwsia, baqia analysh toy eaytoy toy kai ths koinwnias kai en synexeia kainotomes protaseis poy qa antapokrinontai stis anagkes twn politwn".

Den qewrei epishs "sobara" osa akoygontai peri diagrafwn. Pisteyei oti "opoios eklegei qa prospaqhsei na syspeirwsei oloys, diafwnoyntes kai mh, gia na dhmioyrghsoyn ena megalo nikhforo PASOK".

To erwthma kata ton k. Xrysoxoidh einai "an exei antilhfqei to PASOK toys logoys ths httas kai kyriws th basikh aitia poy htan oti den apanthse me qetiko tropo stis anazhthseis ths mesaias tajhs ths xwras kai tis anagkes twn newn mh pronomioyxwn baykalizomeno me ta peri aristerhs strofhs xwris nohma kai periexomeno". An synexisei etsi, einai bebaio oti qa odhgei se syrriknwsh.

Er: Kai to rhgma poy exei dhmioyrghqei sth bash toy kommatos nomizete oti mporei na jeperastei;

Ap: Pragmati exoyn dhmioyrghqei kapoia problhmata sth bash alla pisteyw oti siga-siga qa kleisoyn. Qa yparjoyn kai anoixtes plhges alla einai sto xeri toy ayrianoy proedroy na prospaqhsei mazi me thn hgetikh omada kai oloys emas na tis kleisei oso ginetai grhgorotera.

Er: Akoygeste aisiodojos se sxesh me alloys synadelfoys sas opws o Apostolos Kaklamanhs poy proeblece sth Boylh diaspash kai twn dyo megalwn kommatwn.

Ap: Oxi, egw den blepw kamia diaspash. Blepw mia anadiatajh sto xwro ths kentroaristeras, opws kai ths kentrodejias me to LAOS, an synexisei kai h ND na ypoxwrei se mia seira zhthmata gia ta opoia prepei na parei apofaseis. To idio qa isxysei kai gia mas an synexisoyme ta legomena peri aristerhs strofhs h opoia qa einai aytokatastrofikh me kateyqynsh sto gkremo. An "aristerh strofh" ennooyme na ginoyme pio "koinwnistes" qa elega oti yposxeqhkame hdh polla koinwnika metra alla kaneis den mas akoyse. Kai merikes fores htan pio koinwnisths o k. Karamanlhs kai h ND. Ayto den odhgei poyqena. Ekeino poy exei shmasia einai oti gia prwth fora mia oloklhrh genia antimetwpizei to fasma ths koinwnikhs ypobaqmishs se sxesh me thn prohgoymenh.

Er: Poso safhs htan o politikos logos toy PASOK ta prohgoymena treishmisi xronia;

Ap: Htan toso asafhs poy den ton katalabainame oyte emeis oi idioi, me apotelesma na palinwdoyme apo th mia qesh sthn allh dhmioyrgwntas sygxysh ston kosmo.

Er: Me poia krithria pisteyete oti prepei na chfisoyn oi chfoforoi toy PASOK stis 11 Noembrioy;

Ap: Me dyo krithria.To ena einai poios mporei na anatajei to PASOK politika kai organwtika mesa apo thn enothta kai to deytero poios mporei na rymoylkhsei jana thn koinwnia pisw apo to PASOK, me kaqara mhnymata kai anatreptikes politikes.

Synenteyjh G. Papantwnioy

Thn anagkh epistrofhs sthn politikh kai sthn poiothta toy dialogoy, opws armozei se ena megalo sosialistiko komma, epishmainei o prwhn ypoyrgos Giannos Papantwnioy, o opoios ekfrazei kai thn anhsyxia toy gia thn epomenh mera sto PASOK.

O k. Papantwnioy se synenteyjh toy sto APE-MPE apofeygei na sxoliasei tis proswpikes epiqeseis, qewrei oti "den ajizei ton kopo" giati einai endeiktikes toy poly kakoy klimatos poy exei epikrathsei sth diarkeia ths proeklogikhs ekstrateias. Elpizei omws, oti qa exoyn hmeromhnia lhjhs.

"H epomenh mera -shmeiwnei- einai phgh anhsyxias giati oi tonoi jefygan me eyqynh fobamai ths pleyras Papandreoy kai twn stelexwn poy ton yposthrizoyn, alla elpizw oti meta qa mporesoyme na broyme enan tropo synennohshs metajy mas poy na ejasfalizei mia synektikh leitoyrgia kai mia apotelesmatikh antipoliteysh apenanti sth ND xwris na diataraxqei h enothta. Ayto omws einai mia eyxh".

Erwthsh: Pisteyete oti mporei na yparjoyn diagrafes, apokleismoi h ejanagkasmoi se paraithseis twn stelexwn poy breqhkan sthn allh oxqh an epikrathsei o k. Papandreoy;

Apanthsh: Etsi deixnei to klima kai etsi prokyptei kai apo tis dhlwseis toy idioy gia "dikaies diagrafes". Ezhsa kai egw ti shmainei "dikaies diagrafes" ton Aygoysto toy 2006 kai en synexeia me tis kinhseis apokleismoy. Allwste, proswpa poy einai konta toy, milane akomh pio wma gia tetoia endexomena kai exw thn aisqhsh oti h pleyra Papandreoy blepei ena mikrotero PASOK apo to megalo kai eyrytero dhmokratiko PASOK poy dhmioyrghse kai mas klhrodothse o Andreas Papandreoy.

Er: Ektimate oti pisw apo tis antiqeseis yparxoyn shmantikes ideologopolitikes diafores h diaforetikes organwtikes antilhceis;

Ap: Den nomizw oti yparxoyn toso shmantikes diafores an kai diapistwnw oti h pleiochfia twn proswpwn kai stelexwn poy sthrizoyn ton G. Papandreoy, proerxontai apo to PASOK toy 1974 kai toy 1981 kai ekfrazoyn antilhceis ekeinhs ths epoxhs, poy tote men eixan politiko nohma, shmera omws einai teleiws anantistoixes me tis sygxrones proklhseis. Ara to PASOK me ton Giwrgo Papandreoy qa paei anagkastika merika bhmata pisw oson afora thn anagkaia prosarmogh stis proklhseis toy sygxronoy kosmoy. Allwste, aristeros den shmainei opisqodromhsh. Den mporoyme na kleisoyme ta matia sthn pagkosmiopoihsh kai tis pieseis toy dieqnoys antagwnismoy, giati den mporei na askhqei koinwnikh politikh xwris na proyparxei isxyrh oikonomia. Kai shkwnei poly syzhthsh poios einai aristeros kai dejios, shmera.

Er: Den yparxei omws syllogikh aytokritikh gia tis kybernhseis toy PASOK, paroti oloi oi prwtagwnistes dietelesan kybernhtika stelexh;

Ap: To bebaio einai oti h oktaetia twn kybernhsewn PASOK 1996-2004 alla kai ta prohgoymena tria xronia toy Andrea Papandreoy htan apo tis pio dhmioyrgikes periodoys ths metapolemikhs istorias. Asfalws eginan laqh kai paraleiceis. Ekeino omws poy pragmati me ekplhssei einai h diapistwsh oti polloi apo toys kentrikoys yposthriktes toy Kwsta Shmith, poy ton bohqhsan na parei thn arxhgia to 1996 einai o Giwrgos Papandreoy, h Basw Papandreoy kai o Qodwros Pagkalos oi opoioi shmera exoyn staqei enantion toy kai miloyn mallon apajiwtika gia to ergo twn kybernhsewn poy kai oi idioi symmeteixan se shmantikes qeseis.

Er: Poia krithria prepei na prytaneysoyn sthn eklogh ths 11hs Noembrioy gia toys chfoforoys toy PASOK;

Ap: Safhneia politikwn qesewn gia na antilhfqei h koinh gnwmh ti qelei na kanei to PASOK otan ginei kybernhsh kai eswkommatikh dhmokratia gia eleyqerh ekfrash apocewn kai anoixtes keraies wste na proslambanoyme ta mhnymata ths koinwnias. To PASOK twn teleytaiwn treishmisi xronwn eixe ideologopolitikh sygxysh. Paradeigma to arqro 16 opoy yphrjan toses kai toses metallajeis twn qesewn mas. Se kaqe periptwsh to qema ths 11hs Noembrioy den einai ti egine prin apo pente h deka xronia, alla ti PASOK qeloyme kai pws qa to kanoyme pleiochfiko reyma.

Er: Poies einai oi probleceis sas gia thn ekbash ths chfoforias;

Ap: Nomizw oti qa einai ntermpi. Qa kriqei tis epomenes meres poy den einai polles alla oyte kai liges kai einai ikanes na odhghsoyn ta pragmata pros th mia h thn allh kateyqynsh. Ayto poy exei shmasia einai poy qa kinhqei h eyryterh koinwnia. Kai exw th gnwmh oti o k. Benizelos qa kataferei na ejasfalisei mia kalh prosbash proballontas thn eikona enos eyryteroy PASOK poy qa einai se qesh na antagwnistei th ND kai na th nikhsei stis prosexeis boyleytikes ekloges oi opoies malista mporei na ginoyn kai poly syntoma.

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